Grand Rapids marijuana case: DecriminalizeGR talks adultery, prostitution in legal brief

[St Stephen]

Sayldog wrote:

On the one hand, GR says that in spite of what the voters have passed, the city CANNOT go against State laws regarding marijuana.
On the other hand, the city says it CAN go against State laws regarding open carry of handguns.
Funny how these officials that WE have elected and whose wages WE pay, can indiscriminetly choose when they want to follow or ignore State laws and/or the will of the people. They need to remember that they don't RULE us, they WORK FOR us.

Grand Rapids will never be anything more than a mid-sized, dying town in a godforsaken state. Any chance to elevate it beyond that will be thwarted by the simple-minded, ultra conservative powers that be.

There is a reason why young people leave the West Michigan area at a larger rate than they come here and that is a recipe for disaster for any town that desires to grow and expand. The side-effects of a dying town is a soft housing market (because no one wants to move here), lower paying jobs and a restriction of a vibrant and diverse culture. In other words it's boring. And no, this isn't just about the whole pot deal it's the mindset of those who are unwilling to advance and grow.

Welcome to mediocrity West Michigan! Enjoy it.

[Heraldo]

St Stephen wrote:

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Grand Rapids will never be anything more than a mid-sized, dying town in a godforsaken state. Any chance to elevate it beyond that will be thwarted by the simple-minded, ultra conservative powers that be.
There is a reason why young people leave the West Michigan area at a larger rate than they come here and that is a recipe for disaster for any town that desires to grow and expand. The side-effects of a dying town is a soft housing market (because no one wants to move here), lower paying jobs and a restriction of a vibrant and diverse culture. In other words it's boring. And no, this isn't just about the whole pot deal it's the mindset of those who are unwilling to advance and grow.
Welcome to mediocrity West Michigan! Enjoy it.

Weed kills brain cells Steve, as evidenced by your mindless blatherings. Why don't you move if you hate west Michigan so much?
There are great homeless camps in other more liberal areas where you are free to expand your experience.

[St Stephen]

Heraldo wrote:

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Weed kills brain cells Steve, as evidenced by your mindless blatherings. Why don't you move if you hate west Michigan so much?
There are great homeless camps in other more liberal areas where you are free to expand your experience.

And here we have a great example of the W Michigan mindset. Thanks for playing!! Why don't you time travel back to 1956 since you long for the past. And since progressing and evolving goes against your moral code why don't you just kill yourself? I'll be sure to honk as I pass by your hearse!

[St Stephen]

Heraldo wrote:

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Why don't you move if you hate west Michigan so much?

Not fair to take the kids out of school. When they're done and start college we're outta here, already have a place picked out.

[Heraldo]

St Stephen wrote:

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And here we have a great example of the W Michigan mindset. Thanks for playing!! Why don't you time travel back to 1956 since you long for the past. And since progressing and evolving goes against your moral code why don't you just kill yourself? I'll be sure to honk as I pass by your hearse!

Killing myself would be against my moral code also. What code do you live by?
Here's thought for you: Detroit is rather liberal and housing is relatively cheap. Just pry the boards off the windows when you move in. Well, on second thought, maybe you want to leave them on.

[Heraldo]

St Stephen wrote:

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Grand Rapids will never be anything more than a mid-sized, dying town in a godforsaken state. Any chance to elevate it beyond that will be thwarted by the simple-minded, ultra conservative powers that be.
There is a reason why young people leave the West Michigan area at a larger rate than they come here and that is a recipe for disaster for any town that desires to grow and expand. The side-effects of a dying town is a soft housing market (because no one wants to move here), lower paying jobs and a restriction of a vibrant and diverse culture. In other words it's boring. And no, this isn't just about the whole pot deal it's the mindset of those who are unwilling to advance and grow.
Welcome to mediocrity West Michigan! Enjoy it.

Advancing and growing are relative terms. When you go to Mc Donalds do you try to order Chinese and then complain that they don't have what you like? Rather than trying to get Mc Donalds to feature Chinese - try going to a Chinese restaurant.
If you want a liberal progressive city- move to one. You're probably not going to live long enough to see all the Dutch conservatives die and turn the key over to you.

[Batch 37 Pain Is Good]

St Stephen wrote:

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Not fair to take the kids out of school. When they're done and start college we're outta here, already have a place picked out.

OMG he reproduced! Using the crappy system we tax payers built for years. He is a taker.

[St Stephen]

Heraldo wrote:

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Advancing and growing are relative terms. When you go to Mc Donalds do you try to order Chinese and then complain that they don't have what you like? Rather than trying to get Mc Donalds to feature Chinese - try going to a Chinese restaurant.
If you want a liberal progressive city- move to one. You're probably not going to live long enough to see all the Dutch conservatives die and turn the key over to you.

I don't complain that this area is what it is and I don't expect it to be NYC or even Austin Texas. It is insular though, unable to accept change and to some degree even growth. That doesn't bother me on a civic level but on a human level. I love diversity, I love what diversity brings. This area has a backbone, it has the lakeshore, it has things to offer the rest of the country but as long as the largest group rejects change and diversity it will never be more than it is. That's depressing.

[St Stephen]

Heraldo wrote:

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Killing myself would be against my moral code also. What code do you live by?
Here's thought for you: Detroit is rather liberal and housing is relatively cheap. Just pry the boards off the windows when you move in. Well, on second thought, maybe you want to leave them on.

Even I understand Detoit is a shthole.

[Heraldo]

St Stephen wrote:

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Even I understand Detoit is a shthole.

Glad we could agree on something!

[Batch 37 Pain Is Good]

St Stephen wrote:

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Not fair to take the kids out of school. When they're done and start college we're outta here, already have a place picked out.

leave West Michigan please.

[Go Blue Forever]

Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:

<quoted text>It is the Mexican govt that has the responsibility to clean up their corruption.... We should cut training aid to their Police and Military until the prison system is cleaned up as a first step....

Questionable logic.....our history show's our alcohol prohibition helped create organized crime, our insistance on marijuana prohibition has built and strenghtened the mexican drug cartels......time to decriminalize marijuana, save those enforcement taxdollars and starve the cartels....

[St Stephen]

Go Blue Forever wrote:

<quoted text>Questionable logic.....our history show's our alcohol prohibition helped create organized crime, our insistance on marijuana prohibition has built and strenghtened the mexican drug cartels......time to decriminalize marijuana, save those enforcement taxdollars and starve the cartels....

And give the states the revenue so many need right now. Put it in law enforcement, education, infrastructure...ect.

If the Feds leave Washington and Colorado alone and they start to rake in revenue from legalized, recreational marijuana then there are going to be other states that will say they want in on the action too.

The first two dominos have fallen...

[Go Blue Forever]

St Stephen wrote:

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And give the states the revenue so many need right now. Put it in law enforcement, education, infrastructure...ect.
If the Feds leave Washington and Colorado alone and they start to rake in revenue from legalized, recreational marijuana then there are going to be other states that will say they want in on the action too.
The first two dominos have fallen...

The taxable income revenue for the states is important, as is the savings of allowing law enforcement to concentrate on the really hard drugs....we will need to put aside the false propaganda we have been fed over the years and really look at the big picture....Though, politicians will have to get past the financial control, the tobacco and alcohol lobbys may have on them.....