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pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#62 May 5, 2013
Really wrote:
"The christian religion would like to impose prayer in Public Schools, as well as bible reading and intelligent design. They will certainly try some stupid tactic somewhere and ultimately lose and...look stupid also for trying." Incorrect statement. All the Christians would like to be able to do is pray in public schools AND read their Bibles in public schools WITHOUT being ridiculed and persecuted for doing so. Much like the Muslims are allowed to do and atheists are allowed to do whatever they wish to do without being ridiculed and persecuted. Apparently for some, freedom is restricted to only certain beliefs.
LOL. Like so many other issues you lack understanding or knowledge of you fail miserably on this one too. No surprise there. Try reading up on SCOTUS rulings related to state sanctioned and/or mandatory prayer, religious expression and bible reading in public schools. If you know how to do remedial internet research, pay particular attention to what the arguments and issues were when they ruled and WHY they ruled the way they did. And since lack understanding of the basics, you certainly don't have a clue about Establishment Clause of the 1st Amendment which provides for the separation of church of state.

Why do hypocrites and know-it-alls like yourself always flaunt the Constitution around and jump up and down on matters you deem important or value but then go deaf, dumb and blind to others you don't like? Typical hypocrite conservatism? But then again you and your kind don't understand what the 2nd says or any of the subsequent court rulings on the question of what the right to bear arms means either either. So no surprise on the question of school payer and all the rest.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#63 May 5, 2013
setrlvr wrote:
Look what's happening to society because so many people feel the way you do. The fact that you don't see it speaks volumes. I'm sorry about your hemp issue, but I don't really care about why it became illegal or when. I was just glad it was illegal. It makes people stupid, pot smokers will even tell you that.
What's happening to society is a direct result of, amoungst other things, communication. Hundreds of years ago the only way to gain information would not have been reading a newspaper or watching TV or using one's computer internet access to any and every news media in the world. The human race is driven by the need for information and the capability to obtain it.
Your religion as well as other religions want to somehow establish their morality as the base guideline for all others...and christianity alone has 38,000+ divisions. Which of those 38,000+ do you suggest we all use as our basis for moral and ethical guidelines and adhere to by creating laws to support them????
vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#64 May 5, 2013
pipedream wrote:
LOL. Like so many other issues you lack understanding or knowledge of you fail miserably on this one too.
Not nearly as badly as you. Tell us, Crackpipe...how did the Muslims get around that SCOTUS decision and get accomodations for Muslim prayer in public schools?
And before you shoot off your pie hole and claim it isn't so, scroll back a page and read the links I've already provided.
Really

Holland, MI

#65 May 5, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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Which brings to the forefront the obvious question...christians can already pray in ther homes and in their churches or sitting on a mountain top...why do they feel the need to do so in Public Schools?
I know of no requirement in the bible that children be required to do so so why put them in the spotlight to be "ridiculed" and/or "persecuted"??
See, no one said they be "required" to do anything. It is a right guaranteed in the constitution. The right to practice your religion or not, whichever you choose. Unfortunately, the atheists and others in this country have decided that Christians are apparently the only group who is "forcing" their beliefs on anyone. It would appear, however, that you and others are forcing your unbelief on Christians.
Really

Holland, MI

#66 May 5, 2013
pipedream wrote:
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LOL. Like so many other issues you lack understanding or knowledge of you fail miserably on this one too. No surprise there. Try reading up on SCOTUS rulings related to state sanctioned and/or mandatory prayer, religious expression and bible reading in public schools. If you know how to do remedial internet research, pay particular attention to what the arguments and issues were when they ruled and WHY they ruled the way they did. And since lack understanding of the basics, you certainly don't have a clue about Establishment Clause of the 1st Amendment which provides for the separation of church of state.
Why do hypocrites and know-it-alls like yourself always flaunt the Constitution around and jump up and down on matters you deem important or value but then go deaf, dumb and blind to others you don't like? Typical hypocrite conservatism? But then again you and your kind don't understand what the 2nd says or any of the subsequent court rulings on the question of what the right to bear arms means either either. So no surprise on the question of school payer and all the rest.
Unlike you, I do know what the 2nd amendment says and I do know what the SCOTUS has ruled. I also know the SCOTUS used documents that were NOT the constitution to make their ruling, and they took those documents out of context. You, on the other hand, can find nothing to do but spout talking points from your bully club that you are apparently the president of since they obviously couldn't find an intelligent bully to be the president. Either way, the point being that you and others have deemed only the Christians to be violating the Constitution while giving the atheists and Muslims, to name 2 groups, a pass. Whatever pipedream, elephant dung, or whatever your grey box names might be.Go back to mommy's basement and play your video games.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#67 May 5, 2013
Really wrote:
<quoted text>Unlike you, I do know what the 2nd amendment says and I do know what the SCOTUS has ruled. I also know the SCOTUS used documents that were NOT the constitution to make their ruling, and they took those documents out of context. You, on the other hand, can find nothing to do but spout talking points from your bully club that you are apparently the president of since they obviously couldn't find an intelligent bully to be the president. Either way, the point being that you and others have deemed only the Christians to be violating the Constitution while giving the atheists and Muslims, to name 2 groups, a pass. Whatever pipedream, elephant dung, or whatever your grey box names might be.Go back to mommy's basement and play your video games.
How did I know you'd reply within minutes of my comments with your pathetically weak attempt attacking me again and your lame, inaccurate points. As quickly as you responded to me, you must wired right in today, eh Sandy? Trying to win back some points, eh, Sandy. I see you like mentioning elephant dung. Got news for you. You're a pile of it and you stink. The only thing you won at again today is showing everyone you're not only crazy, but a pathetic, weak, misinformed loser. How can you live with yourself?
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#68 May 5, 2013
vox veritatis wrote:
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Not nearly as badly as you. Tell us, Crackpipe...how did the Muslims get around that SCOTUS decision and get accomodations for Muslim prayer in public schools?
And before you shoot off your pie hole and claim it isn't so, scroll back a page and read the links I've already provided.
Anyone is allowed to pray in public schools in the United States, as long as it is not officially sponsored by the school and it does not disrupt others from doing their work. That's been the law of the land for awhile. This applies to Christians, Jews, Muslims or any other sect or denomination. After you do some research on this subject, big boy, get back to me and explain why I'm wrong.
vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#69 May 5, 2013
pipedream wrote:
Anyone is allowed to pray in public schools in the United States, as long as it is not officially sponsored by the school and it does not disrupt others from doing their work.
So if the school has to make special accomodations for these Muslim children to be able to pray (that they don't make for anyone else), that's NOT school sponsored? That's NOT favoring one religion over another? LOL...another low information opinion from the left wing lemming.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#70 May 5, 2013
vox veritatis wrote:
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So if the school has to make special accomodations for these Muslim children to be able to pray (that they don't make for anyone else), that's NOT school sponsored? That's NOT favoring one religion over another? LOL...another low information opinion from the left wing lemming.
What grade are you in? 8th? You and your buddies want to pray? Ask for a vacant room, you will be accommodated. If you're aren't "accommodated", or if you think you're being discriminated against, file a grievance, or get a lawyer, or contact the ACLU, or bark and howl at the moon. Nobody really gives a $hit about your feigned religious beliefs or hypocritical value system. Or is that you just like complaining, bitching and blaming? This isn't Obama's fault, in fact 99% of the crap you're blaming on Obama or progressives or anyone else is misdirected, inaccurate, and regurgitated b.s. from the crazy right which has you by the nose. Just face it. You're misdirected. So why don't you just shut your f'ing pie hole and crawl into your little hole?
Really

Holland, MI

#71 May 6, 2013
pipedream wrote:
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How did I know you'd reply within minutes of my comments with your pathetically weak attempt attacking me again and your lame, inaccurate points. As quickly as you responded to me, you must wired right in today, eh Sandy? Trying to win back some points, eh, Sandy. I see you like mentioning elephant dung. Got news for you. You're a pile of it and you stink. The only thing you won at again today is showing everyone you're not only crazy, but a pathetic, weak, misinformed loser. How can you live with yourself?
I actually live very well with myself. You really need to stop looking in the mirror and replying at the same time, that way you can stop projecting about being a misinformed loser, with emphasis on "loser". Oh well, to each their own. Apparently I hit a nerve and you, as usual, have zero clue about the subject at hand, no surprise there elephant dung. Have a nice Monday.

“Where I came from”

Since: Jan 09

the universe

#72 May 6, 2013
pipedream wrote:
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LOL. Like so many other issues you lack understanding or knowledge of you fail miserably on this one too. No surprise there. Try reading up on SCOTUS rulings related to state sanctioned and/or mandatory prayer, religious expression and bible reading in public schools. If you know how to do remedial internet research, pay particular attention to what the arguments and issues were when they ruled and WHY they ruled the way they did. And since lack understanding of the basics, you certainly don't have a clue about Establishment Clause of the 1st Amendment which provides for the separation of church of state.
Why do hypocrites and know-it-alls like yourself always flaunt the Constitution around and jump up and down on matters you deem important or value but then go deaf, dumb and blind to others you don't like? Typical hypocrite conservatism? But then again you and your kind don't understand what the 2nd says or any of the subsequent court rulings on the question of what the right to bear arms means either either. So no surprise on the question of school payer and all the rest.
So enlighten us on what the second amendment means, of course it will only be your opinion or maybe you have been watching to much left wing wacko media preach their religion to you on what things really mean.

“Where I came from”

Since: Jan 09

the universe

#73 May 6, 2013
I would just like to point out that I know what espouse is mostly opinion, but its educated opinion, opinion formed by listening to people like the president, and VP and certain democrat and republican senators and congressmen/women, and heads of agencies and cabinet secretaries, who in my opinion have been in office way to long and why they keep being elected I don't know.

One thing I do know is that these people think they have a higher position in life than the rest of us, they act like nobles who have been granted power by the king. And I know by listening to THEM, not some opinion show on the radio or TV that if they could they would have us all down on our knees groveling for scraps. This also goes for religious organizations and businesses.

They hate the fact the we are able to control our own lives and make decisions without coming to them first, of course the fundamental transformation that is taking place has not slapped all of you in the face yet, but it will in the form of health care, once they have control of your health they have control of your life and you can bet that many people will die needlessly and in terrible pain because of this control you will no longer have privacy like a thief in the night it will disappear. JMO.
setrlvr

Lake Odessa, MI

#74 May 6, 2013
Shoeless Eluder wrote:
I would just like to point out that I know what espouse is mostly opinion, but its educated opinion, opinion formed by listening to people like the president, and VP and certain democrat and republican senators and congressmen/women, and heads of agencies and cabinet secretaries, who in my opinion have been in office way to long and why they keep being elected I don't know.
One thing I do know is that these people think they have a higher position in life than the rest of us, they act like nobles who have been granted power by the king. And I know by listening to THEM, not some opinion show on the radio or TV that if they could they would have us all down on our knees groveling for scraps. This also goes for religious organizations and businesses.

They hate the fact the we are able to control our own lives and make decisions without coming to them first, of course the fundamental transformation that is taking place has not slapped all of you in the face yet, but it will in the form of health care, once they have control of your health they have control of your life and you can bet that many people will die needlessly and in terrible pain because of this control you will no longer have privacy like a thief in the night it will disappear. JMO.
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