Get Ready To Pay More For Food.

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Dr X

Grand Rapids, MI

#1 Mar 19, 2014
Yep, that's right folks. It seems as though the environmentalists cults and the progressively EVIL politicians in the People's Republik of Kalifornia have decided to spare a little smelt over water for the farmers there. Just another example of why we need to develop a nerve agent that specifically targets those with an Earth-hugging collectivist agenda.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/03/19/fa...

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#3 Mar 20, 2014
The drought that is affecting the farmers is also affecting the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta which means the source of water is low. What if the drought continues and the source dries up? The farmers, and lots of other people will be without water and...the price of certain foods will still go up. The water being supplied to farmers in that valley is being diverted, it does not naturally flow there. It also supplies water to millions of homes and other businesses.
We humans do not have a very good track record of preserving and maintaining our natural resources and the environment.
That being said, I feel for the farmers who are affected by the drought but can't condone depleting a resource to correct a problem with the natural cycles of weather on this planet Earth. If food prices need to rise because of that, so be it.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#4 Mar 20, 2014
Dr X wrote:
Yep, that's right folks. It seems as though the environmentalists cults and the progressively EVIL politicians in the People's Republik of Kalifornia have decided to spare a little smelt over water for the farmers there. Just another example of why we need to develop a nerve agent that specifically targets those with an Earth-hugging collectivist agenda.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/03/19/fa...
This is the perfect kind of Faux Outrage designed for the lowly educated......

From your whiny little source:

"It's devastating, it's like I'll have to sell something. I'll have to sell half to maintain the other half," Alfalfa farmer Michael Erskine said.

LMAO! We only have to wonder how much Alfalfa the average teabagger like Special Edna chews on each day!

Here's a hint stupid..... If you are dumb enough to try to grow hay in a part of the country that has a history of droughts, then you should be willing to lose your ass when a dry spell hits. Maybe this idiot should move to Alaska and try to grow pineapples so he can whine about not enough global warming!
Dr X

Grand Rapids, MI

#5 Mar 20, 2014
Mr Wiggley wrote:
The drought that is affecting the farmers is also affecting the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta which means the source of water is low. What if the drought continues and the source dries up? The farmers, and lots of other people will be without water and...the price of certain foods will still go up. The water being supplied to farmers in that valley is being diverted, it does not naturally flow there. It also supplies water to millions of homes and other businesses.
We humans do not have a very good track record of preserving and maintaining our natural resources and the environment.
That being said, I feel for the farmers who are affected by the drought but can't condone depleting a resource to correct a problem with the natural cycles of weather on this planet Earth. If food prices need to rise because of that, so be it.
True, the drought has been an issue and is partially responsible for the lack of water for farming. However, you've forgotten about the fish in question. Pumping water through the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta has been heavily regulated due to the possible extinction of the Delta Smelt which is nothing more than a minnow. Yes, I understand the food chain and how a small species of fish can affect the entire animal ecosystem, but come on. This was an issue before the drought and has more to do with the green-nazi movement then anything else. They are choosing a fish over farm water. What strikes me insane about all of this is that they risk losing billions of dollars in agriculture as a result. We'll see what happens when the drought ends. My guess is that the fish still win.
Dr X

Grand Rapids, MI

#6 Mar 20, 2014
Bob wrote:
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This is the perfect kind of Faux Outrage designed for the lowly educated......
From your whiny little source:
"It's devastating, it's like I'll have to sell something. I'll have to sell half to maintain the other half," Alfalfa farmer Michael Erskine said.
LMAO! We only have to wonder how much Alfalfa the average teabagger like Special Edna chews on each day!
Here's a hint stupid..... If you are dumb enough to try to grow hay in a part of the country that has a history of droughts, then you should be willing to lose your ass when a dry spell hits. Maybe this idiot should move to Alaska and try to grow pineapples so he can whine about not enough global warming!
Oh, I forgot that FOX NEWS wasn't a real news source. Maybe I should get my daily propaganda reports from sources that you enjoy like, Salon, Huffington, Mother Jones, all leftist-skewed. Let me ask you a question Bobbet, do you enjoy wine, grapes, broccoli, figs, dates, artichokes, lettuce, etc etc? Want to put that hunk of tomato on your BLT for lunch during the winter? Unless you have a greenhouse up here in Michigan you're SOL. Truth is is that 80% of the produce that Americans consume on a daily basis comes from California. They have the Semi-tropical, temperate climate conditions that are near perfect for year-round growing seasons. So your pineapple analogy just fell through the cracks of reason. Defending that which we don't understand is a definition of idiocy.

DUNCE
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Plymouth, MI

#7 Mar 20, 2014
Wells is what we use in this State in our fields........
Oneal

Three Rivers, MI

#8 Mar 20, 2014
Bob wrote:
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This is the perfect kind of Faux Outrage designed for the lowly educated......
From your whiny little source:
"It's devastating, it's like I'll have to sell something. I'll have to sell half to maintain the other half," Alfalfa farmer Michael Erskine said.
LMAO! We only have to wonder how much Alfalfa the average teabagger like Special Edna chews on each day!
Here's a hint stupid..... If you are dumb enough to try to grow hay in a part of the country that has a history of droughts, then you should be willing to lose your ass when a dry spell hits. Maybe this idiot should move to Alaska and try to grow pineapples so he can whine about not enough global warming!
Don't worry, Roberto, your migrant working ilk have nothing to worry about. Michigan's asparagus crops are in no danger unless all this global "warming" keeps up.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#9 Mar 21, 2014
Dr X wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, I forgot that FOX NEWS wasn't a real news source. Maybe I should get my daily propaganda reports from sources that you enjoy like, Salon, Huffington, Mother Jones, all leftist-skewed. Let me ask you a question Bobbet, do you enjoy wine, grapes, broccoli, figs, dates, artichokes, lettuce, etc etc? Want to put that hunk of tomato on your BLT for lunch during the winter? Unless you have a greenhouse up here in Michigan you're SOL. Truth is is that 80% of the produce that Americans consume on a daily basis comes from California. They have the Semi-tropical, temperate climate conditions that are near perfect for year-round growing seasons. So your pineapple analogy just fell through the cracks of reason. Defending that which we don't understand is a definition of idiocy.
DUNCE
The headline doesn't match the story unless you can explain which of you patriots munches on Alfalfa..... Do you enjoy eating hay?

The real truth is that the southwestern part of this country goes from semi-arid to flat out desert. You can't stuff millions of water drinking humans who want green grass on their front lawns, mix them in with a bunch of farmers, and expect them all to have enough water to meet their needs.

Most food stuffs are treated as commodities. If the prices go up, more people in other areas will start to grow more, which will eventually drive down prices when the supply meets demand......

Isn't that what capitalism is supposed to be about?

Coward!
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Plymouth, MI

#10 Mar 21, 2014
Bob wrote:
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The headline doesn't match the story unless you can explain which of you patriots munches on Alfalfa..... Do you enjoy eating hay?
The real truth is that the southwestern part of this country goes from semi-arid to flat out desert. You can't stuff millions of water drinking humans who want green grass on their front lawns, mix them in with a bunch of farmers, and expect them all to have enough water to meet their needs.
Most food stuffs are treated as commodities. If the prices go up, more people in other areas will start to grow more, which will eventually drive down prices when the supply meets demand......
Isn't that what capitalism is supposed to be about?
Coward!
I like alfalfa sprouts on my salads and sandwiches........

Since: Oct 12

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#11 Mar 21, 2014
Anytime fuel/transportation cost's accelerate, food and dry goods prices are bound to rise....it's basic economics.....
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Plymouth, MI

#12 Mar 21, 2014
Go Blue Forever wrote:
Anytime fuel/transportation cost's accelerate, food and dry goods prices are bound to rise....it's basic economics.....
We started some hydroponics plants and the results are encouraging....... Low voltage halogens give the UV radiation like the sun......

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#13 Mar 21, 2014
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>We started some hydroponics plants and the results are encouraging....... Low voltage halogens give the UV radiation like the sun......
I love gardening, down here....but at 99 cents a lb. tomatoes, i would rather avoid the whiteflies....i have started so many plants hydroponically...in the window sill.......One trick when buying fruits and vegetables...follow the seasons/grocery store sales....like right now, i am addicted to Florida tangerines....
Oneal

Three Rivers, MI

#14 Mar 21, 2014
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>I like alfalfa sprouts on my salads and sandwiches........
I have a feeling if it's not fried, ensconced in sugar and Cheetoh dust, or under 800 calories, Bob doesn't consider it food.

Alfalfa has only been used by the Chinese for 6 centuries as a dietary staple. It's well-known to be an auto-immune deficiency cure, a cholesterol-lowerer, a stroke preventative, etc.

In other words it's one of those wacky health foods that "real men" like Bob scoff at in favor of Cheese Whiz and lard!
Oneal

Three Rivers, MI

#15 Mar 21, 2014
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text> I love gardening, down here....but at 99 cents a lb. tomatoes, i would rather avoid the whiteflies....i have started so many plants hydroponically...in the window sill.......One trick when buying fruits and vegetables...follow the seasons/grocery store sales....like right now, i am addicted to Florida tangerines....
I was surprised to learn that 90% of Florida citrus is processed into juices. That is an amazing amount of juice considering FL's citrus is like a $9 billion/year industry!

Since: Oct 12

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#16 Mar 21, 2014
Oneal wrote:
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I was surprised to learn that 90% of Florida citrus is processed into juices. That is an amazing amount of juice considering FL's citrus is like a $9 billion/year industry!
Those figures may change, due to California's drought....we also had a somewhat warm winter, but i only know that, sometimes that can effect the sweetness.....
Dr X

Grand Rapids, MI

#17 Mar 21, 2014
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
The headline doesn't match the story unless you can explain which of you patriots munches on Alfalfa..... Do you enjoy eating hay?
The real truth is that the southwestern part of this country goes from semi-arid to flat out desert. You can't stuff millions of water drinking humans who want green grass on their front lawns, mix them in with a bunch of farmers, and expect them all to have enough water to meet their needs.
Most food stuffs are treated as commodities. If the prices go up, more people in other areas will start to grow more, which will eventually drive down prices when the supply meets demand......
Isn't that what capitalism is supposed to be about?
Coward!
You forgot to add avocados, peppers, artichokes, beans along with the hay there buddy. Grab a map and look at the Delta. You're right about the green grass vs the produce though. It still comes down to the little fish. I say let the fish die off along with everyone's lawn and at the very least give the farmers something rather than nothing. Or I suppose the farmers can just move and take their tax dollars with them. I wonder how Israel manages to find water for its crops when that country is practically a desert as a whole. By the way, calling me a COWARD was pretty funny.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#18 Mar 22, 2014
Those that support the corporate farm lobby refuse to admit that if they were given all the water they need today, they would simply try to put more acres into production. The need for even more water would bring this exact same subject up in the future.
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#19 Mar 22, 2014
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text> Those figures may change, due to California's drought....we also had a somewhat warm winter, but i only know that, sometimes that can effect the sweetness.....
I would have thought Cali had a bigger percentage of citrus distribution than they do. Florida dominates.
Going to the gulf side in a few weeks and I'm looking forward to some fresh grapefruit and sunshine!

Since: Oct 12

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#20 Mar 22, 2014
Oneal wrote:
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I would have thought Cali had a bigger percentage of citrus distribution than they do. Florida dominates.
Going to the gulf side in a few weeks and I'm looking forward to some fresh grapefruit and sunshine!
Sound's great, we often spend a weekend in Captiva/Sanibel Island, off Fort Myers......i love FL Tangerines and their season is now.....

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#21 Mar 22, 2014
Bob wrote:
Those that support the corporate farm lobby refuse to admit that if they were given all the water they need today, they would simply try to put more acres into production. The need for even more water would bring this exact same subject up in the future.
Have family with Dairy farms,,,,and often feel bad when a gallon of gas is higher priced than milk.....should'nt be any shortage of fresh water up north, this year...after the winter you had....

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