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Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#1 Jun 15, 2013
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/201...

Shortly after the news broke that the Department of Justice had been secretly monitoring the phones and email accounts of Associated Press and Fox News reporters (and the parents of Fox News Correspondent James Rosen), CBS News' Sharyl Attkisson said her computer seemed like it had been compromised. Turns out, it was.

Attkisson has lead the way in exposing and covering Operation Fast and Furious, Solyndra and Benghazi.
Really

Wyoming, MI

#2 Jun 15, 2013
Oneal wrote:
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/k atiepavlich/2013/06/14/confirm ed-cbs-news-investigative-repo rter-sharyl-attkissons-compute r-compromised-n1620273
Shortly after the news broke that the Department of Justice had been secretly monitoring the phones and email accounts of Associated Press and Fox News reporters (and the parents of Fox News Correspondent James Rosen), CBS News' Sharyl Attkisson said her computer seemed like it had been compromised. Turns out, it was.
Attkisson has lead the way in exposing and covering Operation Fast and Furious, Solyndra and Benghazi.
Ooops! Apparently it isn't just "conservatives" and Fox News that the administration has on the "enemies" list. Shades of Nixon... and they said it was only Republicans who are liars and thieves and supported by big oil and corporate greed $$.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#3 Jun 15, 2013
Really wrote:
<quoted text>Ooops! Apparently it isn't just "conservatives" and Fox News that the administration has on the "enemies" list. Shades of Nixon... and they said it was only Republicans who are liars and thieves and supported by big oil and corporate greed $$.
Who is "they"?? I have repeatedly said that we have the best government that money can buy. No party affiliation required.
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#4 Jun 15, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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Who is "they"?? I have repeatedly said that we have the best government that money can buy. No party affiliation required.
You sure are paranoid about being included in with the rest of the liberal goofballs.
Can't say as I blame you, but have you ever heard the phrase "he doth protest too much"?

The fact is this is yet another example of a government drunk on power and a leadership evidently so paranoid they are willing to step on the constitution at every turn. Really's point is a good one; the left rung our ears with 8 years of whining and tantrums over Bush/Cheney and the Patriot Act. Now the president they elected has proven to be as bad if not worse - and we hear nothing but excuses for and acceptance of our privacy rights being trampled and Americans being bullied.
Get a life

United States

#5 Jun 15, 2013
Oneal wrote:
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You sure are paranoid about being included in with the rest of the liberal goofballs.
Can't say as I blame you, but have you ever heard the phrase "he doth protest too much"?
The fact is this is yet another example of a government drunk on power and a leadership evidently so paranoid they are willing to step on the constitution at every turn. Really's point is a good one; the left rung our ears with 8 years of whining and tantrums over Bush/Cheney and the Patriot Act. Now the president they elected has proven to be as bad if not worse - and we hear nothing but excuses for and acceptance of our privacy rights being trampled and Americans being bullied.
You so realize everyone of your posts say the exact same thing don't you? Republican/democrat = same GD thing. Some of us already know this, maybe you should too. Get a life loser.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#6 Jun 15, 2013
Oneal wrote:
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You sure are paranoid about being included in with the rest of the liberal goofballs.
Can't say as I blame you, but have you ever heard the phrase "he doth protest too much"?
The fact is this is yet another example of a government drunk on power and a leadership evidently so paranoid they are willing to step on the constitution at every turn. Really's point is a good one; the left rung our ears with 8 years of whining and tantrums over Bush/Cheney and the Patriot Act. Now the president they elected has proven to be as bad if not worse - and we hear nothing but excuses for and acceptance of our privacy rights being trampled and Americans being bullied.
Not at all since just today you accused me of being in that group on another thread...remember? Every other post from you and you paranoid group seems to require that everyone be in one of your made up groups...sheeeesh.
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#7 Jun 15, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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Not at all since just today you accused me of being in that group on another thread...remember? Every other post from you and you paranoid group seems to require that everyone be in one of your made up groups...sheeeesh.
Me and my "group"?
Hmmm, pot meet hypocrite.

Do you have anything whatsoever to contribute regarding this thread's topic of another reporter who happened to be somewhat critical of Obama and his administration discovering their computer being spied on?

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#8 Jun 15, 2013
Oneal wrote:
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Me and my "group"?
Hmmm, pot meet hypocrite.
Do you have anything whatsoever to contribute regarding this thread's topic of another reporter who happened to be somewhat critical of Obama and his administration discovering their computer being spied on?
Yes, "your group"...that indiscriminately call folks who disagree with you libs, morons, fools, etc etc.
Sure I can contribute...what's very suspicious here is that her "flag" was that "her computer seemed like it had been compromised".
In 25 years of working in Server, Network and Computer support, I have never ever encountered a computer user who suspected, thought, discovered, had any idea, that their computer had been somehow "compromised"...unle ss they had a virus or obvious issues like internet redirects and other obvious indicators.
Highly sophisticated hacking at the level we are talking about would not have alerted a user of a compromise.
It also sounds like her computer was "hacked" using her credentials which leaves the pool of guilty parties wide open. It could have been an internal hack for dozens of reasons.
My point is, until anyone can point the finger directly at someone or some specific agency, there is no reason to automatically assume it's the NSA or any government enitity. There is a multitude of reasons her computer appears to have been hacked.

Really

Wyoming, MI

#9 Jun 15, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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Yes, "your group"...that indiscriminately call folks who disagree with you libs, morons, fools, etc etc.
Sure I can contribute...what's very suspicious here is that her "flag" was that "her computer seemed like it had been compromised".
In 25 years of working in Server, Network and Computer support, I have never ever encountered a computer user who suspected, thought, discovered, had any idea, that their computer had been somehow "compromised"...unle ss they had a virus or obvious issues like internet redirects and other obvious indicators.
Highly sophisticated hacking at the level we are talking about would not have alerted a user of a compromise.
It also sounds like her computer was "hacked" using her credentials which leaves the pool of guilty parties wide open. It could have been an internal hack for dozens of reasons.
My point is, until anyone can point the finger directly at someone or some specific agency, there is no reason to automatically assume it's the NSA or any government enitity. There is a multitude of reasons her computer appears to have been hacked.
Wiggley, do you belong to the group that "indiscriminately calls those they disagree with teabaggers, morons, fools, etc etc"?
Because both sides in this entire country are doing that to each other these days. The divisiveness in this country can and should be traced directly back to D.C. because that is what put the current administration in office and those people understand that and feed off the divisiveness that is going on currently.
OhOhObama

Grand Rapids, MI

#10 Jun 16, 2013
So the defense is he is a really good dictator ? he spies on both the liberals and conservatives.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#11 Jun 16, 2013
Really wrote:
<quoted text>Wiggley, do you belong to the group that "indiscriminately calls those they disagree with teabaggers, morons, fools, etc etc"?
Because both sides in this entire country are doing that to each other these days. The divisiveness in this country can and should be traced directly back to D.C. because that is what put the current administration in office and those people understand that and feed off the divisiveness that is going on currently.
I have never called anyone a "teabagger", ever. I have, upon occasion, called someone a fool or a moron only because they sent that term my way first. I believe I have that right.
Our current and past elected officials were not elected because of their capabilities, they were elected via money...big corporate money. Unfortunately this practice will continue as long as they can keep the general public convinced that there are actually "teabaggers" and "libs" and all the other dividing terms and names people are now calling eachother.
I will repeat what I have said before...We have the best government money can buy.
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#12 Jun 16, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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Yes, "your group"...that indiscriminately call folks who disagree with you libs, morons, fools, etc etc.
Sure I can contribute...what's very suspicious here is that her "flag" was that "her computer seemed like it had been compromised".
In 25 years of working in Server, Network and Computer support, I have never ever encountered a computer user who suspected, thought, discovered, had any idea, that their computer had been somehow "compromised"...unle ss they had a virus or obvious issues like internet redirects and other obvious indicators.
Highly sophisticated hacking at the level we are talking about would not have alerted a user of a compromise.
It also sounds like her computer was "hacked" using her credentials which leaves the pool of guilty parties wide open. It could have been an internal hack for dozens of reasons.
My point is, until anyone can point the finger directly at someone or some specific agency, there is no reason to automatically assume it's the NSA or any government enitity. There is a multitude of reasons her computer appears to have been hacked.
Enough of the "Sassy-style" waste of time bickering. If you're willing to group people and call names, regardless of if it's been done to you first, you really have no room to complain, period.

Now, I agree, there is room to debate who hacked this reporters computer - I haven't accused the government with certainty - however it was determined that her computer indeed was hacked. Furthermore, how ironic this particular reporter had numerous times been critical of Obama's policies, something altogether unique in the ranks of CBS, and she finds herself spied upon.

Possibly an angry coworker and Obama supporter? Possibly the government itself? Regardless, what we are seeing is a trend of reporters who's work has gone against this president are finding themselves the victims of spying. If this were a unique situation it wouldn't give cause to raise much of an eyebrow. It's not unique, and the idea of a government "chilling" and bullying it's citizens who happen not to go along with the program should be a concern for every American, regardless of their political affiliation.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#13 Jun 16, 2013
Oneal wrote:
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Enough of the "Sassy-style" waste of time bickering. If you're willing to group people and call names, regardless of if it's been done to you first, you really have no room to complain, period.
Now, I agree, there is room to debate who hacked this reporters computer - I haven't accused the government with certainty - however it was determined that her computer indeed was hacked. Furthermore, how ironic this particular reporter had numerous times been critical of Obama's policies, something altogether unique in the ranks of CBS, and she finds herself spied upon.
Possibly an angry coworker and Obama supporter? Possibly the government itself? Regardless, what we are seeing is a trend of reporters who's work has gone against this president are finding themselves the victims of spying. If this were a unique situation it wouldn't give cause to raise much of an eyebrow. It's not unique, and the idea of a government "chilling" and bullying it's citizens who happen not to go along with the program should be a concern for every American, regardless of their political affiliation.
I'm sure you are aware of J. Edgar Hoover's practices in his day.
He would be having a field day in this day and age.
This kind of crap has been going on for a long time. The tools and methods have changed but the purpose and end result have not.
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#14 Jun 16, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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I'm sure you are aware of J. Edgar Hoover's practices in his day.
He would be having a field day in this day and age.
This kind of crap has been going on for a long time. The tools and methods have changed but the purpose and end result have not.
I'm really not all that familiar with Hoover's practices, to be honest. I'm not that old and while I've certainly done my homework on most presidents, Hoover hasn't been a priority. I do know about Nixon however and the uproar Watergate generated, especially from democrats.

Anyone that can look at the Obama administration's activities that are just now coming to light and not compare them to Watergate, a scandal so great in it's time that it caused a sitting president to resign, is in denial. Obama, like Nixon, is spying on Americans. He's not just tracking suspected terrorists. He's targeting taxpaying citizens, people who voted for him, and those that legally and rightfully are forming organizations that oppose his political agenda, or those that are doing their job as reporters.

It's "chilling" at it's finest, bullying and tyrannical - and if it were a republican president doing it the left would be losing their minds. Simply because Obama is president, they remain silent, or worse, attack those of us who are speaking out against it.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#15 Jun 16, 2013
Oneal wrote:
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I'm really not all that familiar with Hoover's practices, to be honest. I'm not that old and while I've certainly done my homework on most presidents, Hoover hasn't been a priority. I do know about Nixon however and the uproar Watergate generated, especially from democrats.
Anyone that can look at the Obama administration's activities that are just now coming to light and not compare them to Watergate, a scandal so great in it's time that it caused a sitting president to resign, is in denial. Obama, like Nixon, is spying on Americans. He's not just tracking suspected terrorists. He's targeting taxpaying citizens, people who voted for him, and those that legally and rightfully are forming organizations that oppose his political agenda, or those that are doing their job as reporters.
It's "chilling" at it's finest, bullying and tyrannical - and if it were a republican president doing it the left would be losing their minds. Simply because Obama is president, they remain silent, or worse, attack those of us who are speaking out against it.
Hoover had a total stranglehold on many many politicians and others. His methods were questionable at best and had he had access to the computers and systems of today, what is going on in the NSA would seem small.
Read up on him...It's an important part of our History.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Brighton, MI

#16 Jun 16, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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Yes, "your group"...that indiscriminately call folks who disagree with you libs, morons, fools, etc etc.
Sure I can contribute...what's very suspicious here is that her "flag" was that "her computer seemed like it had been compromised".
In 25 years of working in Server, Network and Computer support, I have never ever encountered a computer user who suspected, thought, discovered, had any idea, that their computer had been somehow "compromised"...unle ss they had a virus or obvious issues like internet redirects and other obvious indicators.
Highly sophisticated hacking at the level we are talking about would not have alerted a user of a compromise.
It also sounds like her computer was "hacked" using her credentials which leaves the pool of guilty parties wide open. It could have been an internal hack for dozens of reasons.
My point is, until anyone can point the finger directly at someone or some specific agency, there is no reason to automatically assume it's the NSA or any government enitity. There is a multitude of reasons her computer appears to have been hacked.
You forgot "useful idiots".... No doubt that the govt is pushing the limits of the constitution with the blessing of the Supreme Court...... The 4th is being executed as private companies can no longer protect their clients in a personal transaction.....
Sassy

Grand Rapids, MI

#17 Jun 16, 2013
Don't link me into this disagreement. I didn't say a dam word. However, I will agree with Mr. Wiggley 100%.
Oneal wrote:
<quoted text>
Enough of the "Sassy-style" waste of time bickering. If you're willing to group people and call names, regardless of if it's been done to you first, you really have no room to complain, period.
Now, I agree, there is room to debate who hacked this reporters computer - I haven't accused the government with certainty - however it was determined that her computer indeed was hacked. Furthermore, how ironic this particular reporter had numerous times been critical of Obama's policies, something altogether unique in the ranks of CBS, and she finds herself spied upon.
Possibly an angry coworker and Obama supporter? Possibly the government itself? Regardless, what we are seeing is a trend of reporters who's work has gone against this president are finding themselves the victims of spying. If this were a unique situation it wouldn't give cause to raise much of an eyebrow. It's not unique, and the idea of a government "chilling" and bullying it's citizens who happen not to go along with the program should be a concern for every American, regardless of their political affiliation.
Jules

Grand Rapids, MI

#18 Jun 16, 2013
Wait a minute here. Someone from CBS has led the way in exposing Obama's coverups? I thought they were a radical, left wing news organization? Part of what the whack jobs call the lamestream media? Crazy! And now Obama is looking into her computer? The whack jobs will now make her their new hero! Partisan, hypocritical wind bags!
Really

Wyoming, MI

#19 Jun 16, 2013
Jules wrote:
Wait a minute here. Someone from CBS has led the way in exposing Obama's coverups? I thought they were a radical, left wing news organization? Part of what the whack jobs call the lamestream media? Crazy! And now Obama is looking into her computer? The whack jobs will now make her their new hero! Partisan, hypocritical wind bags!
Looking in the mirror, again???
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#20 Jun 17, 2013
Jules wrote:
Wait a minute here. Someone from CBS has led the way in exposing Obama's coverups? I thought they were a radical, left wing news organization? Part of what the whack jobs call the lamestream media? Crazy! And now Obama is looking into her computer? The whack jobs will now make her their new hero! Partisan, hypocritical wind bags!
This is what I said ..."Furthermore, how ironic this particular reporter had numerous times been critical of Obama's policies, something altogether unique in the ranks of CBS, and she finds herself spied upon."

Critical of Obama's policies ... That's hardly saying she "led the way" in anything, you moron, and being critical of Obama is as I said "unique" at CBS, which may be one of the reasons her computer was hacked. She stepped out of line.

You want to know why I call liberals fools and idiots? I present "jules", in all her moonbat splendor.

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