Holland Toddler Falls From Second Story Window

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A 21-month-old child is in the hospital after falling out of a window in Holland.
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41 - 60 of 61 Comments Last updated May 6, 2008

“Lost in the middle somewhere..”

Since: Nov 07

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#45 May 5, 2008
Gentle Taz wrote:
I couldn't get out my window when I was a kid. It was painted shut! Couldn't open it on hot days in the summer either. Played outside instead.
Since we won't open the kids windows because they are still little and don't know any better than to play out the window we do put an air conditioner in their upstairs play room so that it does stay cool upstairs in the summer.(Everyone know the upstairs of a house is always 100 degrees in the summer and freezing in the winter!) And even the air conditioner is screwed into the frame so they can't push that out the window either!

“Taz say Hi”

Since: Jan 08

Holland,MI

#46 May 5, 2008
-LMS- wrote:
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Since we won't open the kids windows because they are still little and don't know any better than to play out the window we do put an air conditioner in their upstairs play room so that it does stay cool upstairs in the summer.(Everyone know the upstairs of a house is always 100 degrees in the summer and freezing in the winter!) And even the air conditioner is screwed into the frame so they can't push that out the window either!
No air conditioner, LMS. It was a near 100 year old farmhouse. The wiring probably could not have handled that. And although the window wouldn't open, in the winter I would sometimes get up and find a light dusting of snow on my blankets that had blown around the window! I didn't want to get out of bed in the morning and when I did, it was a quick run downstairs! That linoleum on the floor was cold!!
wowwie

Allegan, MI

#47 May 5, 2008
The mother should have been paying more attention to her children. They should not have been left alone by a open window by themselves.
Directly Involved

Madison, WI

#48 May 5, 2008
I can understand everyones concern and criticism but untill ALL the facts are out there it is hard to compile a resonable explanation. I just want to say that being involved in this particular situation there are a lot of missing facts. I for one can only hope that people can channel their energy of blame and disgust away from negativity. Use that concern to pray for the family and the well being of Rileigh instead of focusing on negative vibes. You must realize that this was an ACCIDENT, and they happen to each and every one of us every day. I for one am praying for the Gillahan's and Riliegh. I am thankful that God answered every one of our prayers and that she is making a quick recovery. She has already been given the go ahead to return home. GOD BLESS, Gillahans!
Dear Directly

United States

#49 May 5, 2008
Directly Involved wrote:
I can understand everyones concern and criticism but untill ALL the facts are out there it is hard to compile a resonable explanation. I just want to say that being involved in this particular situation there are a lot of missing facts. I for one can only hope that people can channel their energy of blame and disgust away from negativity. Use that concern to pray for the family and the well being of Rileigh instead of focusing on negative vibes. You must realize that this was an ACCIDENT, and they happen to each and every one of us every day. I for one am praying for the Gillahan's and Riliegh. I am thankful that God answered every one of our prayers and that she is making a quick recovery. She has already been given the go ahead to return home. GOD BLESS, Gillahans!
The kid who took a swig of Mike's hard lemonade was an accident too. Look where that kid went for a couple of days?
Yeah Right

United States

#50 May 5, 2008
mhl wrote:
This kind of accident always touches every parents heart. There are so many dangers for children and it is easy to point the finger at the parents but sometimes you are unable to out guess what they will do next. When my youngest son was 2years old he found a way out of his crib at 2:00am and went downstairs unlocked the door and the deadbolt and went outside to play. I woke with a feeling of dread. To my immediate fear our front door was wide open!! I went to come around the front door and my neighbor was standing there with my son. Thank God for good neighbors!! We put a latch on door were I had to stand on my tiptoes to undo it. The next night same thing, he got a chair and dragged it through the whole house to unlatch it. He was so proud of himself. Once he figured it all out he never did it again, but wow were we so lucky!! I hope this baby girl heals well and is running circles around her siblings again soon!
Either you are incredibly short, or you think we are incredibly stupid.

Stop getting stoned, passing out and letting your spawns run the house.

A two year old child standing on a chair, CANNOT reach the top of a standard door. I can "stand on my tiptoes" and reach the top of a door, but a two year old on a chair cannot. As a matter of fact, I don't need to stand on my tiptoes to reach the top of a door.

So stop trying to make yourself sound all goody-goody and trying to absolve yourself of being an idiot and an inattentive parent. Should have put the latch at the top.

Or at least stop f'ng lying. We aren't stupid.
mhl

Coleman, MI

#51 May 6, 2008
Yeah Right wrote:
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Either you are incredibly short, or you think we are incredibly stupid.
Stop getting stoned, passing out and letting your spawns run the house.
A two year old child standing on a chair, CANNOT reach the top of a standard door. I can "stand on my tiptoes" and reach the top of a door, but a two year old on a chair cannot. As a matter of fact, I don't need to stand on my tiptoes to reach the top of a door.
So stop trying to make yourself sound all goody-goody and trying to absolve yourself of being an idiot and an inattentive parent. Should have put the latch at the top.
Or at least stop f'ng lying. We aren't stupid.
For your information I am very short. I am less than 5'. And yes you are very stupid. My point is you can't out guess every single thing a child will try. I am glad though that you are so superior than everyone else.
Yeah Right

United States

#52 May 6, 2008
mhl wrote:
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For your information I am very short. I am less than 5'. And yes you are very stupid. My point is you can't out guess every single thing a child will try. I am glad though that you are so superior than everyone else.
Oh, so you needed a chair to reach the latch?

Whatever!

Short dumb people shouldn't have kids.

Superior?

Pretty rich coming from someone who thinks they are all that. Give me a BREAK!

“Lost in the middle somewhere..”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#53 May 6, 2008
It is really not cool to attack someone because their child has done something dangerous. Those that are attacking the parents in these situations obviously do not have children. Because kids (especially toddlers) get themselves into a predicament in the blink of an eye. I would say that if this is something that happens daily or on a frequent basis, then yes, there are some neglectful parents. If not, then this is simply a little one trying to figure out the world around them and inadvertently trying to put their parents into an early grave while they're at it!
lori

Detroit, MI

#54 May 6, 2008
Yeah Right wrote:
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Oh, so you needed a chair to reach the latch?
Whatever!
Short dumb people shouldn't have kids.
Superior?
Pretty rich coming from someone who thinks they are all that. Give me a BREAK!
This 2 year old sounds like a BRAT!!!!!!. No rules in his house. Parents need to take a class on how to be good parents. If this was common, we would have hundreds of 2 year old running around outside at 2 am. Gee!!!!!
Watch It

Big Rapids, MI

#55 May 6, 2008
Yeah Right wrote:
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Either you are incredibly short, or you think we are incredibly stupid.
Stop getting stoned, passing out and letting your spawns run the house.
A two year old child standing on a chair, CANNOT reach the top of a standard door. I can "stand on my tiptoes" and reach the top of a door, but a two year old on a chair cannot. As a matter of fact, I don't need to stand on my tiptoes to reach the top of a door.
So stop trying to make yourself sound all goody-goody and trying to absolve yourself of being an idiot and an inattentive parent. Should have put the latch at the top.
Or at least stop f'ng lying. We aren't stupid.
I can assure you that a two-year old can reach the top on standard size door while on a chair... My two-year old tried to sneak out all the time... We had to put alarms on the doors.
Yeah Right

United States

#56 May 6, 2008
lori wrote:
<quoted text> This 2 year old sounds like a BRAT!!!!!!. No rules in his house. Parents need to take a class on how to be good parents. If this was common, we would have hundreds of 2 year old running around outside at 2 am. Gee!!!!!
EXACTLY!!!

mhl wrote:

"When my youngest son was 2years old he found a way out of his crib at 2:00am and went downstairs unlocked the door and the deadbolt and went outside to play."

Yeah, the kid mysteriously "found a way" out of his crib!! Roflmao! Did the fact that he was TWO have anything to do with it? Sheesh!

I'm sure there were signs.

You don't just one day wake up, escape from your crib AND make a break for it via unlatching a deadbolt. Whatever!

Some people shouldn't breed because they don't have the smarts to know what to do afterwards. I don't even think a parenting class would have helped this nitwit.

I have no sympathy for people who try to vindicate their own stupidity by sugar coating their own ignorance. To think she would publically share it, too. What a loser.

"found a way out of his crib"....Riiiiiiiiiiight!

Ummmm.....he was so developmentally delayed that it took two fricken years to find his way out of a crib, yet he knew exactly how to manuever the deadbolt before anyone heard anything?

I probably would have tried making a break too, if my parents were that stupid.
Yeah Right

United States

#57 May 6, 2008
Watch It wrote:
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I can assure you that a two-year old can reach the top on standard size door while on a chair... My two-year old tried to sneak out all the time... We had to put alarms on the doors.
Pretty tall kid.

Good idea on the alarm there sport.

Everyone with children in the home should have them as a matter of common sense.
They are inexpensive and even if your child never tries to escape, they are well worth the peace of mind.

We've had them for years. They came in handy one night when someone was trying to jimmy a window open and get in our home.

While our children never felt the need to escape, alarms would have been a pretty good safety mechanism had they tried.

I think mhl probably just had too much to drink and passed out. She was known to be a little loose back in the day. If you know what I mean.

“Congrats to all Graduating”

Since: Aug 07

Muskegon, MI

#58 May 6, 2008
-LMS- wrote:
All it took for us was one time of seeing our kids throwing toys our of their second story bedroom window after they pushed the screen out. They thought it would be fun to watch the toys fall into the bushes. I didn't think it was too funny vacuuming my livingroom and seeing stuff falling in front of the window.
Now all it took was one screw. One screw screwed in right next to the lock on the window and the window can't be pushed up or pushed down from the top. Problem solved and we don't have to worry about the kids falling out the window or their toys anymore!
Accidents do happen. Kids will be kids. And this will be one big learning experience for the parents.
Many prayers and well wishes to the family for a full recovery for the little one.
when i moved ito this house, EVERY window upstairs had a LONG SCREW in it, I know why now!
I always wondered what that was all about, I thought that it was so ppl couldnt get in, when it was vacant but there were none on the bottom floor windows.
mhl

Grand Rapids, MI

#59 May 6, 2008
-LMS- wrote:
It is really not cool to attack someone because their child has done something dangerous. Those that are attacking the parents in these situations obviously do not have children. Because kids (especially toddlers) get themselves into a predicament in the blink of an eye. I would say that if this is something that happens daily or on a frequent basis, then yes, there are some neglectful parents. If not, then this is simply a little one trying to figure out the world around them and inadvertently trying to put their parents into an early grave while they're at it!
Exactly! Thank you.
mhl

Grand Rapids, MI

#60 May 6, 2008
Yeah Right wrote:
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Pretty tall kid.
Good idea on the alarm there sport.
Everyone with children in the home should have them as a matter of common sense.
They are inexpensive and even if your child never tries to escape, they are well worth the peace of mind.
We've had them for years. They came in handy one night when someone was trying to jimmy a window open and get in our home.
While our children never felt the need to escape, alarms would have been a pretty good safety mechanism had they tried.
I think mhl probably just had too much to drink and passed out. She was known to be a little loose back in the day. If you know what I mean.
You obviously have issues that need to be addressed. I did not come on here to be nasty to anyone, and quite frankly you do not know who I am so your stupid comments are immature. I will not bother responding to you again.

Since: Feb 08

Palatine, IL

#61 May 6, 2008
I see dumb people wrote:
From the dictionary that I read:
beside
be·side
preposition
1. by or at the side of, next to; near: Sit down beside me.
2. compared with: Beside him other writers seem amateurish.
3. apart from; not connected with: beside the point; beside the question.
Thanks for the definition. I was unaware that my bed that is 3 feet away from a window is not beside it. Is there a required distance for it to become close but not beside?
I see dumb people

United States

#62 May 6, 2008
Rosiesmom wrote:
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Thanks for the definition. I was unaware that my bed that is 3 feet away from a window is not beside it. Is there a required distance for it to become close but not beside?
The article said it was "beside" the window. The dictionary defines "beside" as; at, near or NEXT to.

You asked who said anything about the bed being "next" to the window.

The article did when the author chose to use the word "beside" as a descriptive.

The writer didn't say that the bed was in the same room as the window, or that the bed was more than three feet away from the window.

The writer conveyed that the bed was beside the window.

Anyone could reasonably assume that the bed was next to the window instead of across the room or more than three feet away. More importantly, one could and should surmise that the proximity of the bed to the window has significance to the story or why would it be included in such context.

As far as the distance of your bed to your window, it depends on how large your room is and if you are playing when you are suppose to be sleeping. ;)
Yeah Right

United States

#63 May 6, 2008
mhl wrote:
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You obviously have issues that need to be addressed. I did not come on here to be nasty to anyone, and quite frankly you do not know who I am so your stupid comments are immature. I will not bother responding to you again.
Whatever.

Standard door- 80".

Standard chair- 19"

Standard toddler at 24 months- 40"

You do the math. No. You probably aren't capable, I'll help.

That means junior would need a 21" reach to reach the top of the door.

I am 5'7" and my reach is only 23".

That means your two year old was a knuckle dragger, or you are lying.

If junior was of average height,(given your shortness even) he would have a 13" reach.

Unless you are suggesting that junior climbed on a "bar stool" to reach the latch and the door was a midget door?

Since: Feb 08

Palatine, IL

#64 May 6, 2008
I see dumb people wrote:
<quoted text>
The article said it was "beside" the window. The dictionary defines "beside" as; at, near or NEXT to.
You asked who said anything about the bed being "next" to the window.
The article did when the author chose to use the word "beside" as a descriptive.
The writer didn't say that the bed was in the same room as the window, or that the bed was more than three feet away from the window.
The writer conveyed that the bed was beside the window.
Anyone could reasonably assume that the bed was next to the window instead of across the room or more than three feet away. More importantly, one could and should surmise that the proximity of the bed to the window has significance to the story or why would it be included in such context.
As far as the distance of your bed to your window, it depends on how large your room is and if you are playing when you are suppose to be sleeping. ;)
Thanks for humoring me. I'm feeling a bit snarky today. hehehe

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