'Millions of Americans Are Living Happily Without Religion' billboard posted on I-94 by atheist g...

Oct 5, 2013 Full story: MLive.com 28

While religious billboards are a fixture along U.S. highways, a new billboard on I-94 has a different message: "Millions of Americans Are Living Happily Without Religion."

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“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#22 Oct 21, 2013
Really wrote:
<quoted text>Just as it is wrongly labeled hate when we respond to the billboards or the ridicule that is showing up on this thread. We are merely trying to have discussion. The issue, as I see it, is that the non-believers (for lack of a better word) are uncomfortable when the believers (for lack of another better word) present their views, therefore, they view it as hate speech. No one (at least none that I know) hates those who don't believe. The constitution indeed guarantees your right to not believe, but it does NOT diminish or forbid my right to believe and to express that belief. For example, I don't hate those who don't believe as I do. In fact, I would welcome a sit down, face to face discussion with those who don't believe as I do. Why you ask? And NO, it is not to "convert" anyone, it is to have an honest open discussion on why I believe the way I do and why you believe the way you do. However, I will not sit down to ridicule and demeaning and name calling, especially since I do not partake in that foolishness when discussing religious subjects. I have been involved in many of these type of discussions in my lifetime and I must say, it has only been in the 15-20 years that I have seen such vitriol from people both those who believe and those who don't believe. It accomplishes nothing.
It's not the non-believers are uncomfortable (at least not myself) when a believer states their beliefs...that's fine. It's the very unfriendly implication that if I don't beleive as they do I'm damned to their "hell" or some nasty place. They are judging me and sending me to the worst place they can imagine. That's not love by any means even though their religion may teach otherwise.
A non-believer such as myself does not wish anything bad upon someone who is religious that would even compare to being brandished to a hell-place.
As far as having a discussion about differing beliefs...I've been engaged since I was 18 years old with just what you wish for. It's very hard however, to have such a conversation in a forum like this. I've had 7th Day Adventists, Baptists, and Mormons in my home trying their best to convert me that eventually leave realizing they can not do so but still leave on a good note. What they are surprised about most is that I can quote scripture back at them without a Bible whilst they are busily paging back and forth trying their best to counter me.
I'm not arguing there are some nasty posts on this thread...I expected it. I hope you don't think I'm being that way and am enjoying this exchange.

Have a nice day!!

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#23 Oct 21, 2013
Who wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would you ASSUME that a billboard "pisses me off"? I couldn't care less about a billboard. So the atheists made a sign - big deal.
Just because atheists are perpetually angry, don't assume everyone else is.
I'm not sure but have a pretty good idea what has you pissed off. Using uppercase letters is associated with yelling and/or being pissed off. You did so in your first post to me and also in this one.

You've been programmed (very well I might say) to automatically assume anyone who doesn't adhere to your religious beliefs must be "angry" when the title of this very thread says that's not so.

You are the "religious" example of what Really is talking about. You can't have a respectful conversation about religion without name calling and making assumptions about the other party.

It's OK...I understand and actually feel sorry for you.
Really

Wyoming, MI

#24 Oct 21, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
It's not the non-believers are uncomfortable (at least not myself) when a believer states their beliefs...that's fine. It's the very unfriendly implication that if I don't beleive as they do I'm damned to their "hell" or some nasty place. They are judging me and sending me to the worst place they can imagine. That's not love by any means even though their religion may teach otherwise.
A non-believer such as myself does not wish anything bad upon someone who is religious that would even compare to being brandished to a hell-place.
As far as having a discussion about differing beliefs...I've been engaged since I was 18 years old with just what you wish for. It's very hard however, to have such a conversation in a forum like this. I've had 7th Day Adventists, Baptists, and Mormons in my home trying their best to convert me that eventually leave realizing they can not do so but still leave on a good note. What they are surprised about most is that I can quote scripture back at them without a Bible whilst they are busily paging back and forth trying their best to counter me.
I'm not arguing there are some nasty posts on this thread...I expected it. I hope you don't think I'm being that way and am enjoying this exchange.
Have a nice day!!
I know you are not being nasty. And as I said, both believers and non believers are practicing the nasty vitriol these days. And I will tell you what I told someone else the other day. For those "believers" who engage in that kind of discourse, the accountability factor is much more severe than for someone who doesn't believe. And that is scriptural as well. And yes, I have told believers that to their faces. My Dad always told me you gather more bees with honey than you ever will with vinegar. And the fact that you can quote Scripture, even out of context, can be confusing for someone trying to evangelize you. I've seen it happen in other situations. You have a good evening!
Who

Wyoming, MI

#25 Oct 21, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not sure but have a pretty good idea what has you pissed off. Using uppercase letters is associated with yelling and/or being pissed off. You did so in your first post to me and also in this one.
You've been programmed (very well I might say) to automatically assume anyone who doesn't adhere to your religious beliefs must be "angry" when the title of this very thread says that's not so.
You are the "religious" example of what Really is talking about. You can't have a respectful conversation about religion without name calling and making assumptions about the other party.
It's OK...I understand and actually feel sorry for you.
There you go again assuming things. I never mentioned whether I was religious or not.

And if merely capitalizing a word implies that you're being "yelled at", you're taking the internet waaaaaaayyyyyyyy too seriously - either that or you're paranoid.

The atheist billboard says that "millions are living HAPPILY without religion" - if that's true then why are atheists so angry all the time?

I realize I capitalized the word 'happily', this was just to accentuate the claim of being happy so don't go getting all paranoid on me thinking you're being "yelled at".

Or, better yet, put on your big girl panties and stop taking the internet so seriously. Capitalization can't hurt you.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#26 Oct 22, 2013
Who wrote:
<quoted text>
There you go again assuming things. I never mentioned whether I was religious or not.
And if merely capitalizing a word implies that you're being "yelled at", you're taking the internet waaaaaaayyyyyyyy too seriously - either that or you're paranoid.
The atheist billboard says that "millions are living HAPPILY without religion" - if that's true then why are atheists so angry all the time?
I realize I capitalized the word 'happily', this was just to accentuate the claim of being happy so don't go getting all paranoid on me thinking you're being "yelled at".
Or, better yet, put on your big girl panties and stop taking the internet so seriously. Capitalization can't hurt you.
You don't have to mention whether you are religious or not, you obviously are. In your first post on this thread you quoted from the bible mentioning sin. Sin is an invention of religion. Non-religious people naturally call it nonsense while religious people like you recognise that and post it as an example...just like you did. That was easy.
Apparently you just started posting on the internet. It is common knowledge that using uppercase words in posts, emails, blogs, etc is considered yelling. Please educate yourself.
You give yourself more credit than you are due. You couldn't make me paranoid if you posted every post with uppercase words.
You come off much moreso as a keyboard punk that has been thrashed by your own lack of knowledge and can't do anything better than lash out with simpleton comments using childish wording like "big girl panties".
It's clear you are outclassed here...my advice is you should move on.
Who

Wyoming, MI

#27 Oct 22, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't have to mention whether you are religious or not, you obviously are. In your first post on this thread you quoted from the bible mentioning sin. Sin is an invention of religion. Non-religious people naturally call it nonsense while religious people like you recognise that and post it as an example...just like you did. That was easy.
Apparently you just started posting on the internet. It is common knowledge that using uppercase words in posts, emails, blogs, etc is considered yelling. Please educate yourself.
You give yourself more credit than you are due. You couldn't make me paranoid if you posted every post with uppercase words.
You come off much moreso as a keyboard punk that has been thrashed by your own lack of knowledge and can't do anything better than lash out with simpleton comments using childish wording like "big girl panties".
It's clear you are outclassed here...my advice is you should move on.
Oh, well that proves it genius...

I quoted the bible so therefore in your warped and twisted view of reality that makes me religious.

So, by your theory, if I quote a math equation that makes me a mathematician? If I quote Shakespeare, does that make me a literary scholar or an actor? If I quote you, than that must make me an ignorant fool.

You are extremely paranoid because you're accusing me of being your worse nightmare - the religion boogeyman, even though you know nothing about me and have zero proof of your accusations.

“Selected Marksman”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#28 Oct 22, 2013
Who wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, well that proves it genius...
I quoted the bible so therefore in your warped and twisted view of reality that makes me religious.
So, by your theory, if I quote a math equation that makes me a mathematician? If I quote Shakespeare, does that make me a literary scholar or an actor? If I quote you, than that must make me an ignorant fool.
You are extremely paranoid because you're accusing me of being your worse nightmare - the religion boogeyman, even though you know nothing about me and have zero proof of your accusations.
In-as-much as you are fun to play with you also become boring rather quickly. Your analogies are hopelessly irrelevant.
You quoted a bible verse using sin as relevant. Sin is, as I said before, an invention of religion, which you posed or provided as evidence that sin is real, given the bible verse you posted as relevant. Here are your words regarding sin "even though atheists claim it's nonsense". That implies sin, to you, is relevant.
You don't or won't agree with me on this point therefore your religious views take dominance, whatever they are, they are religious views...sin is a religious invention.
Like I've said before, move on, you've lost this one.

“Where I came from”

Since: Jan 09

the universe

#29 Oct 24, 2013
Very happy to live without religion (whatever that is) in my life. Yep I believe in God but not the perverted version written in the bible and exploited by those out to make a buck..

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