'Millions of Americans Are Living Happily Without Religion' billboard posted on I-94 by atheist g...

Oct 5, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: MLive.com

While religious billboards are a fixture along U.S. highways, a new billboard on I-94 has a different message: "Millions of Americans Are Living Happily Without Religion."

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Sara

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Oct 19, 2013
 
they're entitled to their opinion because God gave us free will but they are under religion and they dont know its called serving satan.
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they're entitled to their opinion because God gave us free will but they are under religion and they dont know its called serving satan.
They probably can live happily without "regligion". how about faith?
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Who

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So why are you atheists so effing worried about what others believe? Why do you care? Why do you assume it's any of your business?

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Oct 20, 2013
 
vox veritatis wrote:
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/ar ticle/global-study-atheists-de cline-only-18-world-population -2020
Ya gotta wonder who's right...
http://americanhumanist.org/HNN/details/2012-...

Here's one from a religious site...
http://www.religiondispatches.org/archive/ath...

“Selected Marksman”

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Oct 20, 2013
 
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So why are you atheists so effing worried about what others believe? Why do you care? Why do you assume it's any of your business?
A simple example...9/11...what "others believe" killed a lot of innocent people that day.
Another example...westboro baptists...remember the number of people who came out to block them in Holland last summer?? What they believe is their right but when they try to impose that on others it becomes a problem.

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Oct 20, 2013
 
Sara wrote:
they're entitled to their opinion because God gave us free will but they are under religion and they dont know its called serving satan.
I hate it when someone starts this crap...you are totally brainwashed by your specific religion...what ever one it is.
In order for someone to worship a satan being they would have to believe in it's existance outside of your religion. That would also require they believe in a god being that allowed a satan being to have been created in the first place...which would leave one to realize your god being is not perfect.
Why don't you just keep your religion to yourself and not concern yourself with what others believe in or don't believe in? The root core flaw with your religion appears to be that it teaches that everyone must worship something which is not true.

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<quoted text>They probably can live happily without "regligion". how about faith?
Hey there Really, I'd like to take a crack at this and hopefully not insult you.
The concept of religion is a lost cause. There are hundreds if not thousands of religions, each with their general beliefs and many with specific beliefs that either include or exclude other religions. Which one is the correct one?
The big selling point of religion is to get one's soul saved and go to a heaven place for the enjoyment of eternal life. Most folks enjoy living and hate the prospect of death, hence the popularity of religion.
My take on all of this is if there is a supreme diety (god0 that created everything it has no care if we worship it. Especially in the confines of religion as we know it. A supreme diety would not be concerned if we contribute money to a religion or church. A supreme diety wanting to be worshiped would let us all know how it wants to be worshiped which would put religion under one single umbrella.
As far as faith, we all have faith...even Athiests. We have faith that when we turn the key the car will start or when we hit the brake pedal the car will stop or flip the switch and the light will come on etc etc. I believe religion has mutilated the concept of faith for the purpose of absolute comittment to a religious belief that requires monitary and physical contributions for the monitary benefit of a few and the false concept of an eternal existance based on good deeds and absolute dedication to a specific god-being.
The person who started this thread is a perfect example of a false teaching that if we don't worship their god-being we must be worshiping their satan-being. To me, that's odd, if not offensive.
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So why are you atheists so effing worried about what others believe? Why do you care? Why do you assume it's any of your business?
I could turn that dumbass question right around on you Christians. Since it's the Christians who are always trying to recruit new believers and finding souls to save. Why do you care? Why is what someone believes your f ing business? A lot if death and misery has been caused by your desire to make everyone believe what you believe in the last 2000 years. This has GOT to be one of the stupidest questions ever raised on a topix board!
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Sara wrote:
they're entitled to their opinion because God gave us free will but they are under religion and they dont know its called serving satan.
Complete opinion based response. If we don't believe what you believe then we must be serving satan. Self righteous bullshit. An that's all it is, compete and utter BS.
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Oct 20, 2013
 
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A simple example...9/11...what "others believe" killed a lot of innocent people that day.
Another example...westboro baptists...remember the number of people who came out to block them in Holland last summer?? What they believe is their right but when they try to impose that on others it becomes a problem.
And putting up billboards ISN'T trying to impose your beliefs on others?

Kinda reminds me of something the bible, even though atheists claim it's nonsense, it says "judge not, lest ye be judged" and "let he who is WITHOUT sin cast the first stone".

Basically, how are you any better than those you claim are causing a "problem"?

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And putting up billboards ISN'T trying to impose your beliefs on others?
Kinda reminds me of something the bible, even though atheists claim it's nonsense, it says "judge not, lest ye be judged" and "let he who is WITHOUT sin cast the first stone".
Basically, how are you any better than those you claim are causing a "problem"?
Saying millions of Americans are living happily without religion is only exposing a fact, not a belief. Why does that piss you off?
As far as imposing or advertising a belief...when is the last time a non-believer knocked at your door to share their non-belief?
In contrast, I've had several religious crusaders knock at my door just this year...trying to impose their beliefs and even going so far as to try to leave their bible and a book of morman. And they go through entire neighborhoods doing this.
You are welcome to believe any way you wish...just keep it in your churches.

Good grief...
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Hey there Really, I'd like to take a crack at this and hopefully not insult you.
The concept of religion is a lost cause. There are hundreds if not thousands of religions, each with their general beliefs and many with specific beliefs that either include or exclude other religions. Which one is the correct one?
The big selling point of religion is to get one's soul saved and go to a heaven place for the enjoyment of eternal life. Most folks enjoy living and hate the prospect of death, hence the popularity of religion.
My take on all of this is if there is a supreme diety (god0 that created everything it has no care if we worship it. Especially in the confines of religion as we know it. A supreme diety would not be concerned if we contribute money to a religion or church. A supreme diety wanting to be worshiped would let us all know how it wants to be worshiped which would put religion under one single umbrella.
As far as faith, we all have faith...even Athiests. We have faith that when we turn the key the car will start or when we hit the brake pedal the car will stop or flip the switch and the light will come on etc etc. I believe religion has mutilated the concept of faith for the purpose of absolute comittment to a religious belief that requires monitary and physical contributions for the monitary benefit of a few and the false concept of an eternal existance based on good deeds and absolute dedication to a specific god-being.
The person who started this thread is a perfect example of a false teaching that if we don't worship their god-being we must be worshiping their satan-being. To me, that's odd, if not offensive.
You don't insult me Wiggley. However, I find it interesting (for lack of a better word) that those who don't believe in either religion or church find it necessary to spend so much time and money promoting their unbelief. While I agree with you that those religions who go door to door and annoying, I also know it is their right to do so. It is also my right to say, "sorry not interested." I, however, do not have the right IMO, to call them "fing stupid" or any of the other names that are on this particular thread right now. I won't say that if you don't believe in God you must be worshipping Satan, but I will say that if you don't believe in something, you will fall for anything. If putting up those particular billboards, suing to have the Ten Commandments/crosses removed, nativity scenes banned, isn't forcing their unbelief on others, what is it? And I have another question for you....why can Christians (or any religion for that matter) not have the right to start up threads or discussions without being treated rudely and ridiculed, but if we answer, we are "haters"?
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Really wrote:
<quoted text>You don't insult me Wiggley. However, I find it interesting (for lack of a better word) that those who don't believe in either religion or church find it necessary to spend so much time and money promoting their unbelief. While I agree with you that those religions who go door to door and annoying, I also know it is their right to do so. It is also my right to say, "sorry not interested." I, however, do not have the right IMO, to call them "fing stupid" or any of the other names that are on this particular thread right now. I won't say that if you don't believe in God you must be worshipping Satan, but I will say that if you don't believe in something, you will fall for anything. If putting up those particular billboards, suing to have the Ten Commandments/crosses removed, nativity scenes banned, isn't forcing their unbelief on others, what is it? And I have another question for you....why can Christians (or any religion for that matter) not have the right to start up threads or discussions without being treated rudely and ridiculed, but if we answer, we are "haters"?
Ten Commandments? So you are saying the atheists force their beliefs upon the country? Christians NEVER do that do they? LOL, now that's hilarious.

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Really wrote:
<quoted text>You don't insult me Wiggley. However, I find it interesting (for lack of a better word) that those who don't believe in either religion or church find it necessary to spend so much time and money promoting their unbelief. While I agree with you that those religions who go door to door and annoying, I also know it is their right to do so. It is also my right to say, "sorry not interested." I, however, do not have the right IMO, to call them "fing stupid" or any of the other names that are on this particular thread right now. I won't say that if you don't believe in God you must be worshipping Satan, but I will say that if you don't believe in something, you will fall for anything. If putting up those particular billboards, suing to have the Ten Commandments/crosses removed, nativity scenes banned, isn't forcing their unbelief on others, what is it? And I have another question for you....why can Christians (or any religion for that matter) not have the right to start up threads or discussions without being treated rudely and ridiculed, but if we answer, we are "haters"?
The Consitiution provides for the freedom of religion (any religion) just as it provides for the freedom of non-religion. To have the ten commandments posted, for instance, in a school or court, without also having every other religious and non religious set of rules/morals, sets a precident that the christian religion, even as divided as it is, is the standard we should go by and the standard our courts go by. We both know that can't be.
Nativity scenes have not been banned from church property or home display as far as I know...as it should be. There are other religions that have their displays also...I have no problem with them displaying them on their own property.
Unfortunately, the starter of this thread committed a basic flaw that leaves a non believer with the feeling of being hated strictly because the mention of anyone not believeing as he/she does must qualify them as worshiping a satan being...which we all know is, by his/her religion, a ticket to their hell-place. To their twisted view, it's showing love, to try to get someone to convert to their religion so they can go to a heaven-place. To the non-believer, it's hateful to imply that such a place even exists, let alone some religious person has any right to determine they are going there.
I think if you really look back at it, it's religion that has pushed itself into the mainstream of American life and non-religion is starting to push back. That's being wrongly labeled as hate when it's not...it's based on our Constitution.
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Mr Wiggley wrote:
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The Consitiution provides for the freedom of religion (any religion) just as it provides for the freedom of non-religion. To have the ten commandments posted, for instance, in a school or court, without also having every other religious and non religious set of rules/morals, sets a precident that the christian religion, even as divided as it is, is the standard we should go by and the standard our courts go by. We both know that can't be.
Nativity scenes have not been banned from church property or home display as far as I know...as it should be. There are other religions that have their displays also...I have no problem with them displaying them on their own property.
Unfortunately, the starter of this thread committed a basic flaw that leaves a non believer with the feeling of being hated strictly because the mention of anyone not believeing as he/she does must qualify them as worshiping a satan being...which we all know is, by his/her religion, a ticket to their hell-place. To their twisted view, it's showing love, to try to get someone to convert to their religion so they can go to a heaven-place. To the non-believer, it's hateful to imply that such a place even exists, let alone some religious person has any right to determine they are going there.
I think if you really look back at it, it's religion that has pushed itself into the mainstream of American life and non-religion is starting to push back. That's being wrongly labeled as hate when it's not...it's based on our Constitution.
Just as it is wrongly labeled hate when we respond to the billboards or the ridicule that is showing up on this thread. We are merely trying to have discussion. The issue, as I see it, is that the non-believers (for lack of a better word) are uncomfortable when the believers (for lack of another better word) present their views, therefore, they view it as hate speech. No one (at least none that I know) hates those who don't believe. The constitution indeed guarantees your right to not believe, but it does NOT diminish or forbid my right to believe and to express that belief. For example, I don't hate those who don't believe as I do. In fact, I would welcome a sit down, face to face discussion with those who don't believe as I do. Why you ask? And NO, it is not to "convert" anyone, it is to have an honest open discussion on why I believe the way I do and why you believe the way you do. However, I will not sit down to ridicule and demeaning and name calling, especially since I do not partake in that foolishness when discussing religious subjects. I have been involved in many of these type of discussions in my lifetime and I must say, it has only been in the 15-20 years that I have seen such vitriol from people both those who believe and those who don't believe. It accomplishes nothing.
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Ten Commandments? So you are saying the atheists force their beliefs upon the country? Christians NEVER do that do they? LOL, now that's hilarious.
How is expressing our beliefs forcing them on anyone? Has anyone taken out a billboard, yet, that says, "Millions of Americans are living happily with religion"? Not that has appeared on the news at this point. So how are we forcing anything again?
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Mr Wiggley wrote:
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Saying millions of Americans are living happily without religion is only exposing a fact, not a belief. Why does that piss you off?
As far as imposing or advertising a belief...when is the last time a non-believer knocked at your door to share their non-belief?
In contrast, I've had several religious crusaders knock at my door just this year...trying to impose their beliefs and even going so far as to try to leave their bible and a book of morman. And they go through entire neighborhoods doing this.
You are welcome to believe any way you wish...just keep it in your churches.
Good grief...
Why would you ASSUME that a billboard "pisses me off"? I couldn't care less about a billboard. So the atheists made a sign - big deal.

Just because atheists are perpetually angry, don't assume everyone else is.

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you christians are the silliest people. and that includes catholics, baptists, methodists,lutherans,and how many other so called chritians sects who think they have all the answers to mans questions and yes try to force their beliefs on others really threatening or fearing others into this belief that you are a sinner born from sin and you must repent and be saved so you if your lucky and are chosen can enter the gates of heaven..And you start this by indoctrinating the most innocent "children"
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you christians are the silliest people. and that includes catholics, baptists, methodists,lutherans,and how many other so called chritians sects who think they have all the answers to mans questions and yes try to force their beliefs on others really threatening or fearing others into this belief that you are a sinner born from sin and you must repent and be saved so you if your lucky and are chosen can enter the gates of heaven..And you start this by indoctrinating the most innocent "children"
And it is our right to be "silly" just as it is your right to not be a christian if that is what you choose. And by expressing our views we are forcing how again?

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