Phil

Oxford, MI

#21 Apr 29, 2013
Kelp wrote:
and for thousandth time Obama has virtually NO control over gas prices at the pump. Get your head out of your fat a$& before someone decides to slap the stupid out of you.
Typical low intellect Obama pothead! That's what you would think when Bush is not in office anymore.
Really

Wyoming, MI

#22 Apr 29, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>Consumer spending has been up...pretty much month to month. Auto sales and home construction have been up consistantly......And i live about 4 miles from the forementioned developement, and i see very few wealthy foreigners in this area....they would likely be along the beach......Sandy, if you don't want economic improvement, because of this administration, just admit it?......BTW, unemployment is down and GDP is in positive, 2.5% territory.......
See, you take the negative side of everything and ASSume I don't want positives. I would love positives, but other than in Florida, the housing market isn't really "booming" anywhere. Consumer spending dropped again in April and unemployment is stagnant at 7.8%..doesn't go up, but it's not coming down. I seem to recall you calling it "the new normal" a while back. Unemployment at 7.8% is a terrible number. Apparently there is only 1 development going on in Florida? Wow, how can the housing market be "booming" with only 1 development..must be that lib "math" again. And read any economist other than the BBC and they will tell you that 2.5% is a very poor number for an economy that was "walked back from the brink" which is Obama's latest tag line. Read economist Peter Morici, see what his take is on the numbers.

Since: Oct 12

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#23 Apr 30, 2013
Kelp wrote:
and for thousandth time Obama has virtually NO control over gas prices at the pump. Get your head out of your fat a$& before someone decides to slap the stupid out of you.
Sadly, i believe they all know that, but it often does'nt suit their point of view...lol...welcome.....

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#24 Apr 30, 2013
Really wrote:
<quoted text>See, you take the negative side of everything and ASSume I don't want positives. I would love positives, but other than in Florida, the housing market isn't really "booming" anywhere. Consumer spending dropped again in April and unemployment is stagnant at 7.8%..doesn't go up, but it's not coming down. I seem to recall you calling it "the new normal" a while back. Unemployment at 7.8% is a terrible number. Apparently there is only 1 development going on in Florida? Wow, how can the housing market be "booming" with only 1 development..must be that lib "math" again. And read any economist other than the BBC and they will tell you that 2.5% is a very poor number for an economy that was "walked back from the brink" which is Obama's latest tag line. Read economist Peter Morici, see what his take is on the numbers.
"only 1 development going on in Florida?".....Sandy, you are welcome to act this horridly uninformed, but i don't care to reply to this mutant behavior, any longer......
Sassy

Grand Rapids, MI

#25 Apr 30, 2013
It isn't just Florida,it is happening in your own backyard.
http://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/i...
Really wrote:
<quoted text>See, you take the negative side of everything and ASSume I don't want positives. I would love positives, but other than in Florida, the housing market isn't really "booming" anywhere. Consumer spending dropped again in April and unemployment is stagnant at 7.8%..doesn't go up, but it's not coming down. I seem to recall you calling it "the new normal" a while back. Unemployment at 7.8% is a terrible number. Apparently there is only 1 development going on in Florida? Wow, how can the housing market be "booming" with only 1 development..must be that lib "math" again. And read any economist other than the BBC and they will tell you that 2.5% is a very poor number for an economy that was "walked back from the brink" which is Obama's latest tag line. Read economist Peter Morici, see what his take is on the numbers.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#26 Apr 30, 2013
Sassy wrote:
It isn't just Florida,it is happening in your own backyard.
http://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/i...
<quoted text>
Sometime's it makes me proud, as an American....that our country and economy are so resillient, so forward thinking....that it seem's to alway's come back from brutal, dire straights.....it speaks wonders for the spirit within ourselves.....
Really

Wyoming, MI

#27 Apr 30, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text> "only 1 development going on in Florida?".....Sandy, you are welcome to act this horridly uninformed, but i don't care to reply to this mutant behavior, any longer......
Good, please don't. You are constantly threatening to ignore me. You deliberately misunderstand whatever I post, so ignore me. My life will not suffer.

Since: Feb 10

Grand Rapids, MI

#28 Apr 30, 2013
Sassy wrote:
<quoted text>It isn't just Florida,it is happening in your own backyard.
http://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/i...
In 2009 there were 645 permits issued for new homes. Last year there were roughly 3,000 for closures.

Getting excited about 207 permits is like an F student getting excited by a D+. But in the liberal world where there are no wrong answers (unless the answer is not a liberal answer, in which case it is considered racist), achieving a 33% in the middle of the "Obama Great Recovery" is fantastic.

And with the next recession slated to start in the next 24 months, good luck because this is as good as it is going to get for the next several years.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#29 Apr 30, 2013
FLBeaver wrote:
<quoted text>
In 2009 there were 645 permits issued for new homes. Last year there were roughly 3,000 for closures.
Getting excited about 207 permits is like an F student getting excited by a D+. But in the liberal world where there are no wrong answers (unless the answer is not a liberal answer, in which case it is considered racist), achieving a 33% in the middle of the "Obama Great Recovery" is fantastic.
And with the next recession slated to start in the next 24 months, good luck because this is as good as it is going to get for the next several years.
207 building permits in one county, coming off a recession, isn't anything worth mention? Keep telling yourself that.....

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#30 Apr 30, 2013
BTW, that 207 was for one quarter....do the math....
Phil

Oxford, MI

#31 Apr 30, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
BTW, that 207 was for one quarter....do the math....
But what are your thoughts on the next recession around the corner? Should we all just smoke another one?

“ROCK ON ROCKERS!!”

Since: Mar 11

Rockin' USA ;)

#32 Apr 30, 2013
FREAKIN' OF COURSE..it's REVVED UP...DUH. SUMMER TOURIST SEASON...Get a Grip!!!

Since: Feb 10

Grand Rapids, MI

#33 May 1, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>207 building permits in one county, coming off a recession, isn't anything worth mention? Keep telling yourself that.....
Except we aren't coming off a recession. The recession officially ended almost three years ago. Depending on your prediction of the future we are either in the middle of the recovery (high point) or past the high point and close to the next recession.

From 2001-2008, the average number of new building permits for houses was 2,276 per year. From 2009-2012 the average is 748.

My point is that prior to 2008, the last time Kent had fewer than 1,000 permits in a year one would have to go back to the 70's. Whether it was Bush, Clinton, or Bush, Kent had more than 200 permits per MONTH. When the number of permits exceeds 200 per month, than it will be worth mentioning.

Personally I like the Clinton/Bush "old normal" to Obama's "new normal."

Since: Feb 10

Grand Rapids, MI

#34 May 1, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
BTW, that 207 was for one quarter....do the math....
BTW, three years after the last two recessions ended there were over 2,500 permits issued, or 625 for one quarter. Three times what you consider to be good news.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#35 May 1, 2013
FLBeaver wrote:
<quoted text>
BTW, three years after the last two recessions ended there were over 2,500 permits issued, or 625 for one quarter. Three times what you consider to be good news.
Your right...we did'nt have a mortgage crisis....the sky actially is FALLING........

Since: Feb 10

Grand Rapids, MI

#36 May 1, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>Your right...we did'nt have a mortgage crisis....the sky actially is FALLING........
Yes, we did have a mortgage crisis. We have also had gas lines, double digit inflation, a tech bust, etc. With two exceptions (FDR's Depression and Obama's Recession) we picked ourselves up and moved on within a couple of years and the recovery was better than before.

We currently have a 63.3% participation rate, a level we haven't seen in 34 years! I know you don't like Bush, so let's use Clinton. The average participation rate under Clinton was 66.8%. That would add about 7,000,000 people to the employment roles.

When do you think we are going to get back to a Clinton economy? BTW, Clinton had a Republican House and Senate for six of his eight years, so Clinton had it tougher than Obama who has only had a Republican House for two years.

“lover”

Since: Feb 09

Dorr MI

#37 May 1, 2013
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/05... The auto industry is still struggling, GM is still loosing tax payer money.
Phil

Oxford, MI

#38 May 1, 2013
Looks like Jason is speechless now!
Kelp

United States

#39 May 1, 2013
Living Large2 wrote:
http://www.fool.com/investing/ general/2013/05/01/gm-still-ta king-taxpayers-for-a-ride.aspx The auto industry is still struggling, GM is still loosing tax payer money.
Got news for ya too fat ... the auto Industry has rebounded quite well, sales & profits are up, most of the loans have been repaid, and workers
rehired. Get your nose out of Glenn, Rush & Sean's butt.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#40 May 1, 2013
Living Large2 wrote:
http://www.fool.com/investing/ general/2013/05/01/gm-still-ta king-taxpayers-for-a-ride.aspx The auto industry is still struggling, GM is still loosing tax payer money.
Yeah, the Volt, designed by President Obama...has been a letdown....Firm grasp on the Auto Industry, you have there.....

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