Republicans to set trap and then spri...

Republicans to set trap and then spring it

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SeenItBefore

Three Rivers, MI

#1 Mar 8, 2011
In Snyder's budget proposal he wants to reduce state funding of schools to balance the sate budget. Sounds reasonable and maybe even good to some. As per usual though there is more behind the curtain. He wants the state to have power to take over the school districts and even local governments. The Republicans want the entire state under their control right down to the local level. And to rid the citizens of their legal rights
http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20110223...

http://michigancitizen.com/emergency-manager-...

“Come and get it! ”

Since: Jan 09

Traverse City

#2 Mar 8, 2011
SeenItBefore wrote:
In Snyder's budget proposal he wants to reduce state funding of schools to balance the sate budget.
The "sate" budget? Which one is that, the full appetite budget? Or did you mean "state"?

That crooked red line that appears under your strange words means that it's probably spelled wrong. Might want to look into it due to the fact that it's happening on just about every one of your posts.
SeenItBefore

Three Rivers, MI

#3 Mar 8, 2011
Sneaky Pete wrote:
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The "sate" budget? Which one is that, the full appetite budget? Or did you mean "state"?
That crooked red line that appears under your strange words means that it's probably spelled wrong. Might want to look into it due to the fact that it's happening on just about every one of your posts.
Is that the best you can come up with, being the spelling police? Or is it that you get your thrills by just being a snipe aggravator. And if you will notice the crooked red line under aggravator is wrong. Look it up in the dictionary professor....as you say it's a fact of happening in just about every one of my posts.

Oh, and change your avatar from Clint Eastwood as I knew him trough my cousin who was a screen writer and Clint is a straight shooter in real life, unlike you.
SeenItBefore

Three Rivers, MI

#4 Mar 10, 2011
Looks like (perhaps)GRPS will be in the first for Snyder's Emergency Managers to take over.

Could also be Godfrey-Lee. To speak only of the west side of the State.

Both GRPS and Godfrey-Lee have said they are now in deeper trouble because of the state reduction in public education funding.

And if Detroit too is "invaded" can you imagine the tax money needed to finance all these Emergency Managers and the execution of their responsibilities.

The right-wing has got to be just ecstatic about the state government take over of what is supposed to be local responsibility. Viva la "small government".

“Taz say Hi”

Since: Jan 08

Holland,MI

#5 Mar 11, 2011
Sneaky Pete wrote:
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The "sate" budget? Which one is that, the full appetite budget? Or did you mean "state"?
That crooked red line that appears under your strange words means that it's probably spelled wrong. Might want to look into it due to the fact that it's happening on just about every one of your posts.
There wasn't a crooked red line under the word as it is a correct spelling. Spell check does not guarantee correct word choice!

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#6 Mar 11, 2011
SeenItBefore wrote:
In Snyder's budget proposal he wants to reduce state funding of schools to balance the sate budget. Sounds reasonable and maybe even good to some. As per usual though there is more behind the curtain. He wants the state to have power to take over the school districts and even local governments. The Republicans want the entire state under their control right down to the local level. And to rid the citizens of their legal rights
http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20110223...
http://michigancitizen.com/emergency-manager-...
The worst thing about this unprecedented power grab is that if it's passed, it would allow "emergency financial managers" appointed by Snyder to unilaterally void union contracts.

This is just the latest in a nationally coordinated effort to destroy unions and the voice of the working guy.

It is nothing short of fascism.
Whatever

Plainwell, MI

#7 Mar 11, 2011
Say good bye to democracy. The state will now pick and choose "managers" to run whatever they want. Sorry folks but the state knows whats best for you. Czars in Washington and Managers at the state level. Voting is now irrelevant.
SeenItBefore

Three Rivers, MI

#8 Mar 11, 2011
Arctic49519 wrote:
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The worst thing about this unprecedented power grab is that if it's passed, it would allow "emergency financial managers" appointed by Snyder to unilaterally void union contracts.
This is just the latest in a nationally coordinated effort to destroy unions and the voice of the working guy.
It is nothing short of fascism.
Just wait till these right-wing no-taxes/small government/balance the budget wonks see the taxes needed to pay for these "Emergency Managers" and what they will "have to" do. How do they actually think this will be paid for? Private donations?

What makes me think these school systems will be turned into charter schools for the DeVosites?

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#9 Mar 11, 2011
SeenItBefore wrote:
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Just wait till these right-wing no-taxes/small government/balance the budget wonks see the taxes needed to pay for these "Emergency Managers" and what they will "have to" do. How do they actually think this will be paid for? Private donations?
What makes me think these school systems will be turned into charter schools for the DeVosites?
These "emergency managers" would have little or no accountability with unilateral control.

Their purpose seems to be one-directional -- they won't raise taxes or do anything else to generate revenue, they will only bust unions and take things away from the schools and working folk.

All the repubs have to do is manufacture an "emergency" and then they can flush everything union workers have worked to get right down the toilet.

Why do I see no-bid contracts and forced privatization of gov't services on the way?

It's fascism neatly packaged and being sold as "fiscal responsibility."
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

United States

#10 Mar 11, 2011
Arctic49519 wrote:
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These "emergency managers" would have little or no accountability with unilateral control.
Their purpose seems to be one-directional -- they won't raise taxes or do anything else to generate revenue, they will only bust unions and take things away from the schools and working folk.
All the repubs have to do is manufacture an "emergency" and then they can flush everything union workers have worked to get right down the toilet.
Why do I see no-bid contracts and forced privatization of gov't services on the way?
It's fascism neatly packaged and being sold as "fiscal responsibility."
Sweet!!!
SeenItBefore

Three Rivers, MI

#11 Mar 11, 2011
Arctic49519 wrote:
<quoted text>
These "emergency managers" would have little or no accountability with unilateral control.
Their purpose seems to be one-directional -- they won't raise taxes or do anything else to generate revenue, they will only bust unions and take things away from the schools and working folk.
All the repubs have to do is manufacture an "emergency" and then they can flush everything union workers have worked to get right down the toilet.
Why do I see no-bid contracts and forced privatization of gov't services on the way?
It's fascism neatly packaged and being sold as "fiscal responsibility."
"Why do I see no-bid contracts and forced privatization of gov't services on the way?"
Because that is exactly what emperor Walker did with his bill in the WI Legislature. It is firmly in that bill(of his)that he gets to sell off state assets at his discretion to the private sector on a no-bid basis.

Make no mistake this is not just one right-wing wacko agenda. It's across the states in this country. This is a Republican agenda. All anyone has to do is look what's going on in WI, MI and IN, all union worker states, to get a whiff of the fart let loose.

People all over this country are watching this and seeing what is really going on. It's not just union people either. It's people who work for a living and are concerned with their own best interest and not just lemmings of some political ideology.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#12 Mar 11, 2011
SeenItBefore wrote:
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"Why do I see no-bid contracts and forced privatization of gov't services on the way?"
Because that is exactly what emperor Walker did with his bill in the WI Legislature. It is firmly in that bill(of his)that he gets to sell off state assets at his discretion to the private sector on a no-bid basis.
Make no mistake this is not just one right-wing wacko agenda. It's across the states in this country. This is a Republican agenda. All anyone has to do is look what's going on in WI, MI and IN, all union worker states, to get a whiff of the fart let loose.
People all over this country are watching this and seeing what is really going on. It's not just union people either. It's people who work for a living and are concerned with their own best interest and not just lemmings of some political ideology.
Yeah, I saw that provision in Wisconsin. Now Walker can sell the Koch brothers or other billionaires the public utilities in no-bid contracts and then rape the citizens with a monopoly.

We are seeing a right-wing fascist plutocracy blooming right before our eyes.

The string pullers:

SeenItBefore

Three Rivers, MI

#13 Mar 11, 2011
Arctic49519 wrote:
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Yeah, I saw that provision in Wisconsin. Now Walker can sell the Koch brothers or other billionaires the public utilities in no-bid contracts and then rape the citizens with a monopoly.
We are seeing a right-wing fascist plutocracy blooming right before our eyes.
The string pullers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =6g78ZKT-uMsXX
"The end of democracy and the defeat of the American Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of lending institutions and moneyed incorporations." - Thomas Jefferson

The right-wingers are so ready to taught the Constitution when there is no protection of corporations or any other business whatsoever in it (Constitution). Excepting for the Press. To which the Press has been turned into a business concern. In fact there is no mention of corporations anywhere in the Constitution. When a specific is left out of a document that means there is no place for it in the document. Which means as the Constitution is a document of protection there is no protection (in it) for business and/or corporation(s).

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Since: Dec 09

Hamilton

#14 Mar 11, 2011
SIB/Arctic,
I think you guys are missing the point, and also why I see very little on Topix in way of discussions regarding Snyder. Between elimination of the EITC, and taxing public and private pensions; his budget would usher in the largest tax increase this state has ever seen. Where's all the outrage from the usual suspects?
SeenItBefore

Three Rivers, MI

#15 Mar 11, 2011
Allegan Dan wrote:
SIB/Arctic,
I think you guys are missing the point, and also why I see very little on Topix in way of discussions regarding Snyder. Between elimination of the EITC, and taxing public and private pensions; his budget would usher in the largest tax increase this state has ever seen. Where's all the outrage from the usual suspects?
Missing the point? I wouldn't go so far as to say that. But yes, you are correct. Snyder, as usual with every Republican governor we have ever had, being that Republicans ALWAYS stump on lower taxes and smaller government and more personal and local freedom, with his policies will usher in the largest tax increase this state has ever seen.

The "usual suspects" will not see it that way though. They will perceive it as acceptable because it will accomplish what they want accomplished. Higher and/or higher taxes are unacceptable UNLESS the same is to their purposes.

The screaming for less taxes, smaller government, more personal and local freedom, is only the suey suey call to round up all the little piggies into one area for the easier slaughter.

“Is it really that interesting?”

Since: Dec 09

Hamilton

#16 Mar 11, 2011
SeenItBefore wrote:
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Missing the point? I wouldn't go so far as to say that. But yes, you are correct. Snyder, as usual with every Republican governor we have ever had, being that Republicans ALWAYS stump on lower taxes and smaller government and more personal and local freedom, with his policies will usher in the largest tax increase this state has ever seen.
The "usual suspects" will not see it that way though. They will perceive it as acceptable because it will accomplish what they want accomplished. Higher and/or higher taxes are unacceptable UNLESS the same is to their purposes.
The screaming for less taxes, smaller government, more personal and local freedom, is only the suey suey call to round up all the little piggies into one area for the easier slaughter.
Oh I agree wholeheartedly, and meant that only from the perspective of making policial hay.

One of my Republican friends presented me a "graph" that showed economic growth during republican administrations and economic downturns during those of democrats. I told him, by that measurement the car at the end of Thelma and Louise was running perfectly.:-)
bob lewis

South Gate, CA

#17 Mar 11, 2011
If only the pub empl unions and their bought and paid for UnionCrat pols hadn't extorted so much from the treasury our schools and other priorities wouldn't have to suffer.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

United States

#18 Mar 11, 2011
Sensitive......
Mark

Rockford, MI

#19 Mar 11, 2011
Arctic49519 wrote:
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We are seeing a right-wing fascist plutocracy blooming right before our eyes.
As opposed to the Ptochocracy which is what many call "Detroit"
By the way, we have been a plutocracy since our inception.
http://www.hermes-press.com/completing.htm

“DRILL FOR OIL?, "YES WE CAN"”

Since: Jul 08

Ada, MI

#20 Mar 11, 2011
Nothing new about this, just ask nancey pollousey.

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