GOP frosh: Where's my health care?

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Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#1 Nov 16, 2010
All of this gets so confusing. Run for election so you can do away with gov't run "Obamacare", and then can't wait to get his own free of charge health insurance.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1110/451...

I love this quote though from his spokesperson Anna Nix: "Nix said Harris, who is the father of five, wasn’t being hypocritical – he was just pointing out the inefficiency of government-run health care."

Can we assume that he will be foregoing this coverage in favor of his own private insurance policy?
say what

Detroit, MI

#2 Nov 16, 2010
Bob wrote:
Can we assume that he will be foregoing this coverage in favor of his own private insurance policy?
Can we assume that you would be okay with waiting a month (or, in my case, a year) for your employer offered coverage to kick in?
As usual, you miss the point, bob. The man wasn't questioning WHERE is healthcare is, he was questioning why it takes the government a month to get new enrollees added to their plan and that means someone is inefficient (isn't that the definition of government employee??). I'd be willing to bet that he'll be paying for COBRA to extend his current coverage. If it takes them a month to add 250 new employees to their insurance plan, I wonder how long it would take the government to add millions to Obama care? Whoops.

“Don't touch my junk man!”

Since: Nov 07

Middle of the Mitten, Michigan

#3 Nov 16, 2010
Hmmmmmm, odd is right.

This is definitely a symptom of the sickness that's permeated a good portion of American minds. It appears he has relied solely on being given health insurance through his employers.

This is beyond ridiculous. One of the first things that needs to happen when we take an axe to the federal budget is the end to health coverage and pension plans given to our Congressional representatives.

Sorry dude, it's PUBLIC SERVICE buy your own damn health insurance!
truth corrector

Detroit, MI

#4 Nov 16, 2010
Ms Angie wrote:
Sorry dude, it's PUBLIC SERVICE buy your own damn health insurance!
Following that line of reasoning, they shouldn't get a paycheck, either.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Barnesville, OH

#5 Nov 16, 2010
say what wrote:
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Can we assume that you would be okay with waiting a month (or, in my case, a year) for your employer offered coverage to kick in?
As usual, you miss the point, bob. The man wasn't questioning WHERE is healthcare is, he was questioning why it takes the government a month to get new enrollees added to their plan and that means someone is inefficient (isn't that the definition of government employee??). I'd be willing to bet that he'll be paying for COBRA to extend his current coverage. If it takes them a month to add 250 new employees to their insurance plan, I wonder how long it would take the government to add millions to Obama care? Whoops.
You are right....... Bobby doesn't usually pick up on the details as he is usually reacting on emotion like most leftist do......

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#6 Nov 16, 2010
He can't wait until February to get his health care but he doesn't want us to ever have it.

How republican is that....
Sandy

United States

#7 Nov 16, 2010
Arctic49519 wrote:
He can't wait until February to get his health care but he doesn't want us to ever have it.
How republican is that....
And you missed the point as well. He wants you to have health care, it's the health INSURANCE he is talking about. See, he is someone who has always had health insurance through his employer. He was not aware that some employers insist on a 30-day waiting period. He should be grateful it is only 30 days..I know of places that make you wait 90 days, 6 months, or some 1 year. No one is denying you health care. We just want you to pay for your own health INSURANCE, Arctic. I know, how Republican of us.

Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#8 Nov 16, 2010
I think that maybe there was a hint of sarcasm in his comment.
Way to twist things around.
Sassy

Jackson, MI

#9 Nov 16, 2010
Why you don't even have health insurance as you have pointed out many times. So when you get so sick you come back on the taxpayer for your health care or a bailout from the hospital which then charges outragious rates on those that have insurance.

I can just hear your blah, blah now. You wouldn't even be able to afford a $35,000 bill from the insurance company to remove 40 kidney stones.
Sandy wrote:
<quoted text>And you missed the point as well. He wants you to have health care, it's the health INSURANCE he is talking about. See, he is someone who has always had health insurance through his employer. He was not aware that some employers insist on a 30-day waiting period. He should be grateful it is only 30 days..I know of places that make you wait 90 days, 6 months, or some 1 year. No one is denying you health care. We just want you to pay for your own health INSURANCE, Arctic. I know, how Republican of us.
Laughing

United States

#10 Nov 16, 2010
Sassy wrote:
Why you don't even have health insurance as you have pointed out many times. So when you get so sick you come back on the taxpayer for your health care or a bailout from the hospital which then charges outragious rates on those that have insurance.
I can just hear your blah, blah now. You wouldn't even be able to afford a $35,000 bill from the insurance company to remove 40 kidney stones.
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And how do you know she does either? Maybe she's one of the responsible ones and actually calls and sets up payment arrangements for their bills.

How very Democrat of you to ASSume someone else gets a bailout from the hospital.
Sandy

United States

#11 Nov 16, 2010
Sassy wrote:
Why you don't even have health insurance as you have pointed out many times. So when you get so sick you come back on the taxpayer for your health care or a bailout from the hospital which then charges outragious rates on those that have insurance.
I can just hear your blah, blah now. You wouldn't even be able to afford a $35,000 bill from the insurance company to remove 40 kidney stones.
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Attack much??? How about assume much???? 40 kidney stones????? You don't have a clue what you are talking about!!!! Why don't you stick to your usual drivel about the evil Republicans. At least that way you might sound semi-intelligent.

“Don't touch my junk man!”

Since: Nov 07

Middle of the Mitten, Michigan

#12 Nov 17, 2010
truth corrector wrote:
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Following that line of reasoning, they shouldn't get a paycheck, either.
Agreed. They shouldn't. Wait, no, they can. But minimum wage 40 hours a week sounds more than fair.
say what

Detroit, MI

#13 Nov 17, 2010
Ms Angie wrote:
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Agreed. They shouldn't. Wait, no, they can. But minimum wage 40 hours a week sounds more than fair.
I'm curious? Why is it that you seem to to think that public service should be on a volunteer, unpaid or very low pay basis? Granted, I don't think they should automatically be paid top dollar but poverty level? Really? No benefits? Really? What is the rationale for that?
Employer provided health insurance is considered part of an employee's compensation. Some employers pay better than others; that's how they attract high quality employees. It's just how things work in this society. On the flip side, If you don't like an employer's compensation package, don't work for them.
Of course, we could work things like China...Soros seems to think that's a grand idea....

“Don't touch my junk man!”

Since: Nov 07

Middle of the Mitten, Michigan

#14 Nov 17, 2010
say what wrote:
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I'm curious? Why is it that you seem to to think that public service should be on a volunteer, unpaid or very low pay basis? Granted, I don't think they should automatically be paid top dollar but poverty level? Really? No benefits? Really? What is the rationale for that?
Employer provided health insurance is considered part of an employee's compensation. Some employers pay better than others; that's how they attract high quality employees. It's just how things work in this society. On the flip side, If you don't like an employer's compensation package, don't work for them.
Of course, we could work things like China...Soros seems to think that's a grand idea....
Tell me, how many of our esteemed 6+ term representatives are doing it purely because they love servicing this country and its constituents?

I feel it's beyond ridiculous our congressional representatives make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year while those putting their lives on the line serving overseas find themselves barely getting by in many cases.

I think we need to separate those that are getting in to congress for the money, the perks, the benefits from those with a desire to serve this country for the better. Perhaps it would help to cut out some of the greed, the money grabbing and the special interest funded elections if they weren't fighting for the golden goose.

I get capitalism, I get the whole if you don't like the pay you can leave deal. I just feel that we've allowed our representatives to bloat themselves and their wallets on our money. We've got to put our foot down somewhere. Perhaps minimum wage is too cheap. Maybe paying the median household income would be a better option?

“Don't touch my junk man!”

Since: Nov 07

Middle of the Mitten, Michigan

#15 Nov 17, 2010
http://www.cnbc.com/id/40233691

Here's a pretty timely article basically outlining what I said above. Even with the state of our economy, members of Congress have gained a whole lot of personal wealth.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#16 Nov 17, 2010
Ms Angie wrote:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/4023369 1
Here's a pretty timely article basically outlining what I said above. Even with the state of our economy, members of Congress have gained a whole lot of personal wealth.
Are you complaining about them making money? Isn't the great RepubliCorp mantra I hear on these forums all the time, is to make all the money you can? If big capitalists can rake in obscene profits, why shouldn't elected officials.

And they will make even more wealth when you tell them they need a tax break.
say what

Grand Rapids, MI

#17 Nov 17, 2010
Ms Angie wrote:
I feel it's beyond ridiculous our congressional representatives make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year while those putting their lives on the line serving overseas find themselves barely getting by in many cases.
On this we can agree. Perhaps our esteemed senators and congressmen/women should receive the same benefits and pay as those serving in our military? If that were the case, I'd forsee a sudden raise and increased benefit package for all involved, wouldn't you?

“Don't touch my junk man!”

Since: Nov 07

Middle of the Mitten, Michigan

#18 Nov 18, 2010
Bob wrote:
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Are you complaining about them making money? Isn't the great RepubliCorp mantra I hear on these forums all the time, is to make all the money you can? If big capitalists can rake in obscene profits, why shouldn't elected officials.
And they will make even more wealth when you tell them they need a tax break.
I have no problem with them making money. However I have a feeling they're not making money in the most ethical way. Did you read the article? A good portion of their investments are locked into companies that benefited from the laws they put in place.

“Don't touch my junk man!”

Since: Nov 07

Middle of the Mitten, Michigan

#19 Nov 18, 2010
say what wrote:
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On this we can agree. Perhaps our esteemed senators and congressmen/women should receive the same benefits and pay as those serving in our military? If that were the case, I'd forsee a sudden raise and increased benefit package for all involved, wouldn't you?
Oh for sure.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#20 Nov 18, 2010
Ms Angie wrote:
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I have no problem with them making money. However I have a feeling they're not making money in the most ethical way. Did you read the article? A good portion of their investments are locked into companies that benefited from the laws they put in place.
You shouldn't expect to hold a politician to a higher standard than any of us are allowed to hold a business owner, or the average employee.

Everyone is supposed to grab all they can get without regards to ethics. The true capitalistic way is to rise to the top by climbing on the bones of your victims.

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