to be announced

United States

#64 Dec 4, 2012
REMEMBER JANUARY 3, 2007…
The day the Democrats took over was not January 22, 2009; it was actually January 3rd 2007, the day the Democrats took over the House of Representatives and the Senate, at the very start of the 110th Congress. On January 3, 2007, the Democratic Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995. For those who are listening to the liberals propagating the fallacy that everything is “Bush’s Fault”, think about this: January 3rd, 2007, the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress:

• The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77
• The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%
• The Unemployment rate was 4.6%
• George Bush’s Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB CREATION!

By the way GWB had Nothing to do with the GM bailout; Mr. Obama did all of that not GWB!

Remember that day…
January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee. The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy?

BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!

THANK YOU DEMOCRATS (especially Barney) for taking us from 13,000 DOW, 3.5 GDP and 4.6% Unemployment…to this CRISIS by (among MANY other things) dumping 5-6 TRILLION Dollars of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac FIASCOES!

(BTW: Bush asked Congress 17 times to stop Fannie & Freddie – starting in 2001 because it was financially risky for the US economy). Barney blocked it and called it a “Chicken Little Philosophy”(and the sky did fall!).
And who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac? OBAMA

And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie? OBAMA and the Democrat Congress, especially BARNEY!!!!
So when someone tries to blame Bush…
REMEMBER JANUARY 3rd, 2007….THE DAY THE DEMOCRATS TOOK OVER!”
Bush may have been in the car but the Democrats were in charge of the gas pedal and steering wheel they were driving the economy into the ditch. Budgets do not come from the White House. They come from Congress and the party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democratic Party.

Furthermore, the Democrats controlled the budget process for 2008 & 2009 as well as 2010 & 2011. In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused them to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on spending increases.

For 2009 though, Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack Obama could take office. At that time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the 2009 budget.

And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete 2009. Let’s remember what the deficits looked like during that period. If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Barack Obama, who voted for the budgets.

If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself. In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is “I inherited a deficit that I voted for, And then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th.”

There is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on!“The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.”
That, my friend constitutes socialism…a welfare state.
Linda

United States

#65 Dec 4, 2012
to be announced wrote:
REMEMBER JANUARY 3, 2007Â…
The day the Democrats took over was not January 22, 2009; it was actually January 3rd 2007, the day the Democrats took over the House of Representatives and the Senate, at the very start of the 110th Congress. On January 3, 2007, the Democratic Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995. For those who are listening to the liberals propagating the fallacy that everything is “Bush’s Fault”, think about this: January 3rd, 2007, the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress:

• The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77
• The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%
• The Unemployment rate was 4.6%
• George Bush’s Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB CREATION!

By the way GWB had Nothing to do with the GM bailout; Mr. Obama did all of that not GWB!

Remember that dayÂ…
January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee. The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy?

BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!

THANK YOU DEMOCRATS (especially Barney) for taking us from 13,000 DOW, 3.5 GDP and 4.6% UnemploymentÂ…to this CRISIS by (among MANY other things) dumping 5-6 TRILLION Dollars of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac FIASCOES!

(BTW: Bush asked Congress 17 times to stop Fannie & Freddie – starting in 2001 because it was financially risky for the US economy). Barney blocked it and called it a “Chicken Little Philosophy”(and the sky did fall!).
And who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac? OBAMA

And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie? OBAMA and the Democrat Congress, especially BARNEY!!!!
So when someone tries to blame BushÂ…
REMEMBER JANUARY 3rd, 2007….THE DAY THE DEMOCRATS TOOK OVER!”
Bush may have been in the car but the Democrats were in charge of the gas pedal and steering wheel they were driving the economy into the ditch. Budgets do not come from the White House. They come from Congress and the party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democratic Party.

Furthermore, the Democrats controlled the budget process for 2008 & 2009 as well as 2010 & 2011. In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused them to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on spending increases.

For 2009 though, Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack Obama could take office. At that time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the 2009 budget.

And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete 2009. LetÂ’s remember what the deficits looked like during that period. If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Barack Obama, who voted for the budgets.

If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself. In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is “I inherited a deficit that I voted for, And then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th.”

There is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on!“The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.”
That, my friend constitutes socialism Â…a welfare state.
Very well done!!! Brings back forgotten memories, thank you!!!
AttenHut

United States

#66 Dec 4, 2012
Socialists need to be removed from this country. They have no business here. The future says that by 2015 America will be at war. John Titor was correct.
Really

Traverse City, MI

#68 Dec 4, 2012
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>Please explain how, continuing the tax cut's for those making less than $250,000...raises the taxes on everybody?
Because, if you could read, you would know that the law was written to prevent just this sort of thing from happening. That's the great lie that Obama fed you and you bought it. The law was written so that ALL the tax cuts expire OR NONE OF THEM DO. I typed slowly so hopefully you might understand this time. And your Democrat buddies VOTED FOR THE LAW. Bwahahahhahahahahahhaha
Really

Traverse City, MI

#69 Dec 4, 2012
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
Epic Fail Edna......
Only the lowly educated would think that.
Three choices - Democrat, Reublican, or off The Cliff, everyone is going to be asked to either pay more or give something up. Why you dolts that come on here screaming about how you want the deficit spending to end can't figure out how that would be accomplished is beyond me. None of the three plans either balances the budget let alone tries to pay off some of the existing debt.
If any of you were truly serious, you'd ask your teabagger representatives what their plan is to avoid passing on this debt to their kids. So far, the only thing any of us have heard is how we need to cut taxes on a bunch of so called job creators that don't create any jobs!
The "teabaggers" as you so lovingly call them, ARE NOT THE MAJORITY. How stupid can you be? Blame Bush, blame the Tea Party, blame the Republicans. Give Obama and the Dems/Progressives welfare propagating people a pass??? I hope you enjoy the minimum $1,000 drop in your wages next year Bob. Note I said MINIMUM, because it will drop a heck of a lot more than that. You got what you voted for, unfortunately, so did the rest of us.

Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#70 Dec 4, 2012
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
LMAO - I can't wait until you realize that the GOP's proposal ends up raising your taxes, along with everyone else that makes under $100k per/year.
That proposal avoids discussion of the 2% tax holiday you've been enjoying on social security taxes. That ends on 12/31 unless it is extended, and your dream team has decided to ignore that little tidbit.
Oops.......
I see you are posting at all hours of the day again, must be that six figure job you claim to have doesnt really exist, does it.
As far as the 2% tax holiday on social security is concerned, I really dont care. That just means that I paid less into it, and will just get that much less out of it in the end, so, it just doesnt matter.
I am starting to hope that Obama's dream of the Bush "era" tax cuts do expire!
I really could not care less!
I know all of you folks that lose your entitlements will be complaining to no end about it, I just dont care anymore.
You dont pay taxes, so should you care?
I hope Obama get his way, and everyones taxes go up, and the entitlements end!
I'm ready for the so called fiscal cliff,....bring it on.
It's what Obama wants, so you should support it too.

Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#71 Dec 4, 2012
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>

GOP members were the ones who ran away from the Super Committee that was tasked with drafting a budget plan that would have avoided this.
Prove it!

Everyone knows the so called "super committee" was equally democrats, and republicans.
Prove your statement.
Oh,...thats right,...you cant, can you?
Hey,....how about Obama's claim that he was going to cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term, and that if he didnt do that, he shouldnt be re-elected?

Sassy

Grand Rapids, MI

#72 Dec 4, 2012
Actually, as usual you are incorrect. Bob only posts first thing in the morning or the evening. I've logged in first thing in the morning, and I've logged in at night, and the time span does not consist with what you accuse.

Epic FAIL!!
Gville Jim wrote:
<quoted text>I see you are posting at all hours of the day again, must be that six figure job you claim to have doesnt really exist, does it.
As far as the 2% tax holiday on social security is concerned, I really dont care. That just means that I paid less into it, and will just get that much less out of it in the end, so, it just doesnt matter.
I am starting to hope that Obama's dream of the Bush "era" tax cuts do expire!
I really could not care less!
I know all of you folks that lose your entitlements will be complaining to no end about it, I just dont care anymore.
You dont pay taxes, so should you care?
I hope Obama get his way, and everyones taxes go up, and the entitlements end!
I'm ready for the so called fiscal cliff,....bring it on.
It's what Obama wants, so you should support it too.
Dude

Byron Center, MI

#73 Dec 4, 2012
I HATE SOCIALISM.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#74 Dec 5, 2012
Sassy wrote:
Actually, as usual you are incorrect. Bob only posts first thing in the morning or the evening. I've logged in first thing in the morning, and I've logged in at night, and the time span does not consist with what you accuse.
Epic FAIL!!
<quoted text>
It's okay, Jimmy thinks that Topix should only be available after he gets home from his long day of pushing shopping carts through the parking lot.

I will admit that I posted a little earlier yesterday than normal because I got home from work early. I must be hard for Jimmy to understand that not every person has to punch a time clock, or that other people may work different hours than he does.

I'm suprised that he doesn't go off on all of the others who post here during the entire day...... He hasn't done that since he was lucky enough to be on unemployment!
Sassy

Grand Rapids, MI

#75 Dec 5, 2012
I know he is good at throwing stones for something he himself has done.
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
It's okay, Jimmy thinks that Topix should only be available after he gets home from his long day of pushing shopping carts through the parking lot.
I will admit that I posted a little earlier yesterday than normal because I got home from work early. I must be hard for Jimmy to understand that not every person has to punch a time clock, or that other people may work different hours than he does.
I'm suprised that he doesn't go off on all of the others who post here during the entire day...... He hasn't done that since he was lucky enough to be on unemployment!

“Where I came from”

Since: Jan 09

the universe

#76 Dec 5, 2012
Gville Jim wrote:
<quoted text>I see you are posting at all hours of the day again, must be that six figure job you claim to have doesnt really exist, does it.
As far as the 2% tax holiday on social security is concerned, I really dont care. That just means that I paid less into it, and will just get that much less out of it in the end, so, it just doesnt matter.
I am starting to hope that Obama's dream of the Bush "era" tax cuts do expire!
I really could not care less!
I know all of you folks that lose your entitlements will be complaining to no end about it, I just dont care anymore.
You dont pay taxes, so should you care?
I hope Obama get his way, and everyones taxes go up, and the entitlements end!
I'm ready for the so called fiscal cliff,....bring it on.
It's what Obama wants, so you should support it too.
Of course Jim we both know that BHO is a liar when it comes to this he wants everyone's taxes to go up.
Linda

United States

#77 Dec 5, 2012
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>It's okay, Jimmy thinks that Topix should only be available after he gets home from his long day of pushing shopping carts through the parking lot.

I will admit that I posted a little earlier yesterday than normal because I got home from work early. I must be hard for Jimmy to understand that not every person has to punch a time clock, or that other people may work different hours than he does.

I'm suprised that he doesn't go off on all of the others who post here during the entire day...... He hasn't done that since he was lucky enough to be on unemployment!
There you go again making fun of types of jobs. Degrade a job because it is beneath you, now that is classy. You are what is wrong with America. Having any job is better than having no job.
vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#78 Dec 5, 2012
Bob wrote:
It's okay, Jimmy thinks that Topix should only be available after he gets home from his long day of pushing shopping carts through the parking lot.
Slamming the poor? Just like a lib would do...claim to care about the poor out of side of their mouth and then denegrate them out of the other.
Progressives don't give a shite about the poor. In fact, you make fun of them at every turn and it's quite obvious that you feel quite superior to them.
I'd really like to know, in detail, how you think making the rich pay more taxes is going to help the poor and middle class.
Come on, Bob..you claim to be so smart. Please tell the class how this benefits the middle class SPECIFICALLY.
I'm with Jim...I hope we do go over the cliff and all you tools who voted for this clown get the shite taxed out of you and your entitlements cut. For my part, having to tighten the belt a little will be well worth seeing you snotnosed little entitlement loving brats whine like little girls.
Really

Traverse City, MI

#79 Dec 5, 2012
vox veritatis wrote:
<quoted text>
Slamming the poor? Just like a lib would do...claim to care about the poor out of side of their mouth and then denegrate them out of the other.
Progressives don't give a shite about the poor. In fact, you make fun of them at every turn and it's quite obvious that you feel quite superior to them.
I'd really like to know, in detail, how you think making the rich pay more taxes is going to help the poor and middle class.
Come on, Bob..you claim to be so smart. Please tell the class how this benefits the middle class SPECIFICALLY.
I'm with Jim...I hope we do go over the cliff and all you tools who voted for this clown get the shite taxed out of you and your entitlements cut. For my part, having to tighten the belt a little will be well worth seeing you snotnosed little entitlement loving brats whine like little girls.
Well said vox and I totally agree. I can't wait for the weeping and gnashing of teeth when these little children figure out they don't have as much money to spend because the party they voted for screwed them. We have already seen it coming and are preparing for it. The surprise on their faces will be well worth the screwing they are going to get.
EJ McDuff

Boulder, CO

#80 Dec 6, 2012
Linda wrote:
<quoted text>
Simpson-Bowles was set up by Obama and the American tax payer paid for them to come up with a plan. They did, Obama is not interested in what they came up with. That was a dog and pony show. Obama wants it his way or no way. Wake up Bobby boy!!!
Why don't you just shut the F up, find a job and get off topix. How is it that you have so much time to spew your crap on Topix and how many names and IDs do you think you need? You're probably the biggest a@@hole there ever was on this sewer site and You don't know have a clue what you're talking about
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#81 Dec 6, 2012
Linda wrote:
<quoted text>
There you go again making fun of types of jobs. Degrade a job because it is beneath you, now that is classy. You are what is wrong with America. Having any job is better than having no job.
Be happy I haven't made any comments about the job you have.......

If you even HAD a job!
Linda

United States

#82 Dec 6, 2012
EJ McDuff wrote:
<quoted text>Why don't you just shut the F up, find a job and get off topix. How is it that you have so much time to spew your crap on Topix and how many names and IDs do you think you need? You're probably the biggest a@@hole there ever was on this sewer site and You don't know have a clue what you're talking about
Your so sweet but very dumb. You insult yourself and don't even know it.
Linda

United States

#83 Dec 6, 2012
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>Be happy I haven't made any comments about the job you have.......

If you even HAD a job!
Woo.... Your are starting to scare me bobby boy.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#84 Dec 6, 2012
vox veritatis wrote:
<quoted text>
Slamming the poor? Just like a lib would do...claim to care about the poor out of side of their mouth and then denegrate them out of the other.
Progressives don't give a shite about the poor. In fact, you make fun of them at every turn and it's quite obvious that you feel quite superior to them.
I'd really like to know, in detail, how you think making the rich pay more taxes is going to help the poor and middle class.
Come on, Bob..you claim to be so smart. Please tell the class how this benefits the middle class SPECIFICALLY.
I'm with Jim...I hope we do go over the cliff and all you tools who voted for this clown get the shite taxed out of you and your entitlements cut. For my part, having to tighten the belt a little will be well worth seeing you snotnosed little entitlement loving brats whine like little girls.
I'd ask you to show the same class where I ever said that increasing taxes on the top 1-2% would help the middle class, but why bother.

The thing I have been saying all along is that it costs the government X number of dollars to do all they do, and it has to be paid for somehow.

What the clueless right has been saying is that we have a spending problem and not a taxing problem....... Bunk!

Only an absolute blind person can't see that if you plan to go into two wars, while nearly doubling the military budget, that you don't have to find a way to fund it. That's the very first reason there should have been tax increases ten years ago. Instead, we got another tax break for the rich so called job creators!

You'd have to be equally blind to not see that the boomers entering retirement age wasn't going to put a strain on social security and medicare. There has never been anything wrong with the idea of the program, but both political parties are at fault for not managing it correctly, or planning ahead for this event. Throwing away the whole program isn't the answer, nor is the popular thought that some conservatives have voiced that they "just want my money back". Yeah, right!

Whacked out conservatives talk about killing off social safety net programs, while at the same time demanding that workers give wage concessions so that CEO's can get bigger bonus checks. WAKE UP - Everytime workers get a cut in pay, more families are forced out of the middle class and into the ranks of those needing that safety net. It shouldn't take a degree in rocket sience to figure out that this country is better off when people have the chance to earn a decent living wage. Even if it means a few members of the 1% have to try making ends meet with a few less million.

I've asked this before..... When was the last time you asked your boss to reduce your wages so that you'll eventually make more?

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