Global warming 'undeniable,' scientis...

Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say

There are 35850 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jul 29, 2010, titled Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming, one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation.

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gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#27464 Jun 29, 2013
If Bill Kristol’s Weekly Standard is publishing acknowledgements of climate science – how much longer can mainstream Republicans pretend to go along with the Tea Party denialist crazies?

Former Heartland staffer Eli Lehrer has written a piece for the Standard with a novel proposal. Believe the physics. Believe the markets. Rejoin the real world.

"Nobody seriously involved in the policy debate over climate change—not even those the left unfairly labels as “deniers”—actually denies that humans influence global climate. There’s also no dispute that the Earth is warmer than it was before the Industrial Revolution or that carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases can trap heat energy."

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And I wonder which deniers are "unfairly labeled". Would that be the dumbest ones?

“Come Home America!”

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#27465 Jun 29, 2013
Patriot wrote:
“OBAMA SPOUTS BRAZEN LIES AND CRETINOUS PSEUDO-SCIENCE. WE CHALLENGE HIM AND HIS CRONIES TO FACT-BASED DEBATE – ANYWHERE ANYTIME”
http://iceagenow.info/2013/06/obama-spouts-br...
"We don't have time to hold a meeting of the Flat Earth Society " -President Barack Obama "Infinite Planet Economics " is a subdivision of the Flat Earth Society"-Eric Zencey, "The Other Road To Serfdom and the Path to Sustainable Democracy" #ForwardOnClimate.
Sunny

Longview, WA

#27466 Jun 29, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
So why don't you tell us how science works, Einstein.
What's making the planet warm?
This is how it works,Einstein.
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,/Humpty Dumpty had a Great fall,/all the king's horses and all the king's men couldn't put humpty together again.
Drink the Hive

New York, NY

#27467 Jun 29, 2013
I Don't Follow - Could U Elaborate?...

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llqi3xNetO1...

“Come Home America!”

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#27468 Jun 29, 2013
Joyce Bros wrote:
For hundreds of years people have claimed the planet was under a crisis and doomed, each and every time it has been a false alarm.
The sky is not falling all is well.
"As currently organized, our economy creates wealth by drawing down natural and social capital, a process that can’t go on forever. One positive result of an economic slowdown is that it slows this rate of ecological and social degradation, giving our system a little more time and breathing room to make the transition we need to make from our infinite-planet ways.

And, lest you think that in pointing this out progressives and environmentalists are uniquely indifferent to the human sorrows and difficulties wrought by recession, keep in mind that infinite-planet economists have long found a considerable amount of silver lining in the dark clouds of economic woe. High unemployment reduces “upward pressure” on wages and constrains the nonwage claims of labor, like the desire for safer working conditions; both are taken to be positive developments by corporations and those identified with them, including conservatives who have taken to heart the slogan once offered by a president of GM,“What’s good for General Motors is good for the country.” To some of these infinite-planet thinkers, recession is also an opportunity to release the economy from unwanted environmental regulation. Thus the remarkable avowal by Ryanair chief executive Michael O’Leary:“We would welcome a good, bloody, deep recession for 12 to18 months....[It would bring a halt to the] environmental bullshit ... that has allowed [Prime Minister] Gordon Brown to double air passenger duty. We need a recession if we are going to see off some of this environmental nonsense.”

Read more: http://www.utne.com/environment/valuing-ecosy...
Sunny

Longview, WA

#27469 Jun 29, 2013
frontporchreactionary wrote:
<quoted text> "We don't have time to hold a meeting of the Flat Earth Society " -President Barack Obama "Infinite Planet Economics " is a subdivision of the Flat Earth Society"-Eric Zencey, "The Other Road To Serfdom and the Path to Sustainable Democracy" #ForwardOnClimate.
The only flat thing on this Earth is your HEAD" #BackwardonBrains.

“Roger is my favorite Wabbit”

Since: Jun 07

Dorchester , MA

#27470 Jun 29, 2013
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps in the USA. How much does it use in Brazil and China? It has a bigger impact on pigs and chickens than US citizens.
I thought brazil used sugar cane?...

Which is much more efficient...

What effect has Brazil's reduction of their Rain Forests to increase their production of sugar cane had on the global climate...

Being a biosphere...

Earth will adjust itself regardless of what we do...

Destroy a rainforest here...
Create a desert there...

Suck the Aral Sea dry...
Add moisture to the atmosphere...

“Roger is my favorite Wabbit”

Since: Jun 07

Dorchester , MA

#27471 Jun 29, 2013
rancher wrote:
light reading:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/climat...
"... catastrophic droughts in Texas and Oklahoma last year can each be attributed to climate change."
Last year was the hot and dry the worst I've ever known, I hope he is wrong and we are not in for more of the same.
Didn't Texas have a drought in the 50s?...

What created the giant silt deposits in the Great Plains?...

Mississippi Floods perhaps?...

Thousands of them?...

Enough to result in the largest silt deposits on Earth?...

Yet the area has been tornado prone for as long as Indians have lived there...

Hence the Plains Indians being Nomads...

Along with the Buffalo...

Don't be there when the tornadoes come...

“Roger is my favorite Wabbit”

Since: Jun 07

Dorchester , MA

#27472 Jun 29, 2013
Mothra wrote:
From 1986:
--NASA researchers gave Congress the cruel forecast the earth's sun shield is being eaten away faster than anyone suspected.
"Within 15 years", said Goddard space flight honcho James Hansen, "global temperatures will rise to a level that hasn't existed on earth in 100,000 years."
http://news.google.com/newspapers...
I guess that's the new 'scientist'-- just keep predicting, whether any prediction comes true is irrelevant -- there will always someone who'll believe it.
And they admit candidly that these temps did exist here 100,000 years ago...

When there was no (that we know of) man made global warming...

And earth has had life for some 6000 years...Sorry, joke

Then we see advanced life at around 3.5 Billion years...

Ice age 40,000 years ago...

Another 18,000 years ago...

Yet blaming the Indians for crossing the Bering Land Bridge for the ends of these two Ice Ages could seem...

Illogically...logical

“Roger is my favorite Wabbit”

Since: Jun 07

Dorchester , MA

#27473 Jun 29, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
If Bill Kristol’s Weekly Standard is publishing acknowledgements of climate science – how much longer can mainstream Republicans pretend to go along with the Tea Party denialist crazies?
Former Heartland staffer Eli Lehrer has written a piece for the Standard with a novel proposal. Believe the physics. Believe the markets. Rejoin the real world.
"Nobody seriously involved in the policy debate over climate change—not even those the left unfairly labels as “deniers”—actually denies that humans influence global climate. There’s also no dispute that the Earth is warmer than it was before the Industrial Revolution or that carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases can trap heat energy."
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And I wonder which deniers are "unfairly labeled". Would that be the dumbest ones?
If whities American caused global warming is a fact...

Why did the smartest brains in the world put together a package deal where by paying an extra tax and selling carbon credits...

The planet could continue to produce as much carbon as they wished?...

Merely by redistributing their wealth to poorer undeveloped nations...

White that giant brain trust (Al Groper) made a significant monetary gain in the process...

“Roger is my favorite Wabbit”

Since: Jun 07

Dorchester , MA

#27474 Jun 29, 2013
frontporchreactionary wrote:
<quoted text> "We don't have time to hold a meeting of the Flat Earth Society " -President Barack Obama "Infinite Planet Economics " is a subdivision of the Flat Earth Society"-Eric Zencey, "The Other Road To Serfdom and the Path to Sustainable Democracy" #ForwardOnClimate.
Why did Obama not build a solar collector across the sunbelt with the $1 Trillion He spent on shovel ready projects that turned out to be not shovel ready at all and loaded with payoffs for his cronies and solar companies that went belly up with absolutely no oversight?...

Why is the government giving rebates on electric cars that are so expensive that most can only be purchased by the wealthiest and of course the overpaid celebrities...

That think nothing of flying half way across the globe so they can go to two New Years Eve parties by crossing the International Date Line...
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#27475 Jun 29, 2013
chazmo wrote:
<quoted text>
Why did Obama not build a solar collector across the sunbelt with the $1 Trillion He spent on shovel ready projects that turned out to be not shovel ready at all and loaded with payoffs for his cronies and solar companies that went belly up with absolutely no oversight?...
Why is the government giving rebates on electric cars that are so expensive that most can only be purchased by the wealthiest and of course the overpaid celebrities...
That think nothing of flying half way across the globe so they can go to two New Years Eve parties by crossing the International Date Line...
If you can't accurately relate facts, does it make your Wizard of Oz crap seem real to you ??????
SpaceBlues

Desoto, TX

#27476 Jun 29, 2013
Excellent observation.
Sunny

Longview, WA

#27477 Jun 29, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
Excellent observation.
Beep,Beep,Houston anybody home.
Nobody home most of taken a trip to the moon.
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#27478 Jun 29, 2013
Try English, for a change.

Ever notice Global Warming deniers are such children & liars ???

Pretty funny, a couple "copped" to necrophilia....

“Come Home America!”

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#27479 Jun 29, 2013
chazmo wrote:
<quoted text>
Why did Obama not build a solar collector across the sunbelt with the $1 Trillion He spent on shovel ready projects that turned out to be not shovel ready at all and loaded with payoffs for his cronies and solar companies that went belly up with absolutely no oversight?...
keep in mind that only 1% of all of Obama's DOE energy loans to solar companies failed , 98% of the government renewable energy programs have been successful. Economic reports project that renewable energy , wind, solar, etc. are on pace to out-compete natural gas production--this being the case natural gas should be left in the ground as not needed and restricted as a 'stranded asset(too expensive to develop)
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#27481 Jun 30, 2013
chazmo wrote:
<quoted text>
If whities American caused global warming is a fact...
Why did the smartest brains in the world put together a package deal where by paying an extra tax and selling carbon credits...
The planet could continue to produce as much carbon as they wished?...
Merely by redistributing their wealth to poorer undeveloped nations...
White that giant brain trust (Al Groper) made a significant monetary gain in the process...
Come back when you can string three thoughts together into a coherent argument.
Patriot

Longmont, CO

#27482 Jun 30, 2013
The Rothschilds and the Geoengineering Empire

http://www.zengardner.com/the-rothschilds-and...
Bushwhacker

Seattle, WA

#27483 Jun 30, 2013
Conspiracy theories & a BS moniker.... REALLY ???

“Come Home America!”

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#27484 Jun 30, 2013
Sunny wrote:
<quoted text>The only flat thing on this Earth is your HEAD" #BackwardonBrains.
Cool you jets,Sunny. Beer #ForwardOnClimate Summit!
http://beeractivist.files.wordpress.com/2010/...

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