Global warming 'undeniable,' scientis...

Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say

There are 35607 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jul 29, 2010, titled Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming, one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation.

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someone

Minneapolis, MN

#23795 Feb 10, 2013
Amused Slew wrote:
You claiming God ? LMAOROTFU~! Laughter...? Every time, you "try" to insult... Did you smoke 2 packs ?
You are the only one who perceives my analysis of your worthless existence as an insult.
I'm trying to do you a favor by reflecting your true self.

Don't hate me for shining light on your shaded and gloomy existence.

You should thank me for providing you an opportunity to reflect on yourself and your life.

If you think I'm insulting you...
its no wonder you failed in higher education.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#23796 Feb 10, 2013
I thank you.
SpaceBlues

United States

#23797 Feb 10, 2013
lOL. Confused ph'd thanks him/her in its confusion..
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#23798 Feb 10, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
lOL. Confused ph'd thanks him/her in its confusion..
You must be a very lonely TROLL. Did the spaced out spacedoutblues manage to jog the lone brain cell today?
someone

Minneapolis, MN

#23799 Feb 10, 2013
Sigh now I feel bad for picking on the retard...
LOL its your fault slew.

Sigh...
someone

Minneapolis, MN

#23800 Feb 10, 2013
You shouldn't troll bigger trolls...
Laws of the Internet.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#23801 Feb 10, 2013
Only you have control of you.
Amused Slew

Kent, WA

#23802 Feb 10, 2013
Mad, tiny ???

If it upsets you that the free expression of ideas is often heated and offensive, please do not use Topix.

Since: Nov 11

Westerville, OH

#23803 Feb 10, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>No way Jose. Look at the mirror for your own ignorance. Man-made climate change is raging whether you admit or not.
CNN ANCHOR ASKS WITH A STRAIGHT FACE IF GLOBAL WARMING IS TO BLAME FOR ASTEROID

See? Liberals are brain dead hypocrites easy to fool by their own Liberal Media.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/10/cn...

Why do you Liberals blame asteroids on Global Warming?

Astronomy 101!!!

Since: Nov 11

Westerville, OH

#23804 Feb 10, 2013
HomoSapiensLaptopicus wrote:
<quoted text>Well, you are consistent, José- consistently clueless.

"When ate you..."? Hmmm.

The "exposed emails" mean nothing. Firstly, a "trick" in math or science isn't anything deceptive, it's a way of simplifying or understanding things. Nothing nefarious about it.

"Mike's (Michael E Mann, lead author of the study) trick" was putting modern, measured temperatures together with tree ring data from the past; tree ring width & wood density are proxies for past temps. This was the famous "hockey stick" paper. It was an excellent idea that has been verified many times over by other studies.

Most tree rings widen, & their wood becomes less dense, with higher temps. However, SOME northern trees show a reversal of this pattern; we know from measurements that temps are increasing, but tree right widths are decreasing. This has been called the "divergence problem" in the literature.

Because they were anomalous, Mann et al threw out those data. The email that said "hide the decline" referred to declining tree ring widths.

In their scientific paper, of course, they didn't hide it, THEY CALLED ATTENTION TO IT! They asked other scientists to help figure out why it was happening, & several hypotheses have been proposed.

No less than 6 formal reviews have found NOTHING wrong with the science. More important is the fact that other scientists, using other proxies, have verified Mann et al's original idea. Presuming you're not colorblind, it's easy to see how other studies have confirmed the original.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1000_Year_T...

Why didn't Obama sign the Kyoto Protocol? Uh, gee - maybe because the Senate rejected it unanimously? Al Gore doesn't need Obama to get rich, BTW, he's got plenty of money now, not just from the sale of Current TV, but also from getting onto the boards (with stock options) of Google & Apple at just the right time.

Remember, a revenue-neutral carbon tax removes ZERO money from the economy & adds ZERO to the cost of government. It just takes money from high carbon emitters & gives it to low carbon emitters. It stimulates the economy, getting entrepreneurs to use their creativity on renewable energy.

Remember that 8 of the 12 largest companies in the world by revenue are oil companies; 2 are auto manufacturers, one a utility, & the other is WalMart. They ALL have direct financial interests in AGW/CC denial. Careful laws could make the car makers, utility & WalMart more neutral, but the oil companies will always fight it tooth & nail.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/global...

There is no (repeat, NO) money in supporting AGW/CC; the money is in denial. I mean DUH.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzh8fhMUmU1...

The deniers have almost unimaginable amounts of money to confuse the science, but we must continually speak truth to power. Scientific facts are true no matter how many times you cluelessly deny them, & no matter how much oil money wants them to be false.
Fact: Of a forest of thousands of trees they picked the ONLY three that validated the GW hoax.

Since: Nov 11

Westerville, OH

#23805 Feb 10, 2013
Wallop10 wrote:
<quoted text>She has said at times it is Rush Limbaugh, FOX, ClimateDepot...

ie.the worst lying right wing sites to be found on the internet.

But watch out, if you tell her that, she will THEN claim she is not... ideological.

Of course in the next breath she will argue NASA's official climate site is a possible left wing site...

LOL.
You Liberals turned NASA into a Muslim outreach program!

See? Liberals are brain dead hypocrites easy to fool by their Liberal Media!!!

Since: Nov 11

Westerville, OH

#23806 Feb 10, 2013
litesong wrote:
"marred & tinny joke" wrote:
80% of Obama followers are ignorant the other 20% keep them that way."
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litesong wrote:
Democrats are more numerous & percentage-wise have more engineering, mathematics & science degrees than re-pubic-lick-uns, thus building the foundations of wealth.

As far as a group that keeps some people poor & ignorant, re-pubic-lick-un upper class paper shufflers & people shovers, don't pay engineers, scientists, mathematicians, technologists, planners, blue-collars, secretaries, or minimum wage workers their due. However, 100 million dollar bonus, stock, & retirement packages are handed out freely to those shufflers & shovers who don't earn them. Hedge funds were another way the shufflers & shovers were able to scam $4 billion dollar packages away from worker bees.

Yeah,'marred & tinny joke' is a schemer & siphons off his unearned wealth from the worker bees. Then he attacks, to make sure worker bees are distracted from his shenanigans.
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litesong wrote:
If Liberals ate do smart why all their ideas crash on flames?
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litesong wrote:
The incomprehensible sentences of 'marred & tinny joke' are incomprehensible not just because English is its second language.

If only re-pubic-lick-uns conceived, developed, engineered, produced & ran world technology, advanced societies wouldn't be advanced & would have collapsed centuries ago. re-pubic-lick-uns need everybody else to produce everything re-pubic-lick-uns desire but can't produce themselves.

Of course, re-pubic-lick-uns steal from everyone else, so re-pubic-lick-uns can afford their desires. That's what business deegreees are all about...... how to let re-pubic-lick-uns steal for everybody else, without going to jail.
Things God for Conservative Republicans!!!

Thanks God for Rush, Glen Beck, Hanity and others like them!!!

Otherwise, we would had a dictator instead of a president!!!

And you Liberals could not post anything on this forum cause it would be shut down to indoctrination!

Capitalism CREATED the Internet as we know and use today!!!

Liberals hate freedom of expression so you Liberals SHUT UP!!!

Since: Nov 11

Westerville, OH

#23807 Feb 10, 2013
someone wrote:
Collectivism vs individualism

I choose individualism.

You collectivists can go Fuck AIDS monkeys for sympathy and government assistance.
wait...most of you already have.

Take all you want from fellow collectivists. Tax each other all you want...for sneezing and shitting in your bathroom. For whatever you want to do.

But try to take from me what doesn't belong to you...
and you will be greeted with a 12 gauge to the face.

Some say there is only weak will and strong will. Free will does not exist.

You progressives are weak willed lemmings. Doing whatever party tells you to do.

True Americans are still left inthis country.

And they will rise in defiance of the collectivists movement to tell you to go Fuck yourselves.
Yes! And we are ready and loaded when they come for our second amendment rights!!!

They want our hard earned money for them since they are lazy ghetto Liberals waiting for government money!!
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#23808 Feb 11, 2013
And you are going to leave when?
Amused Slew

Kent, WA

#23809 Feb 11, 2013
Mad, tiny ???

If it upsets you that the free expression of ideas is often heated and offensive, please do not use Topix.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#23810 Feb 11, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
<quoted text>
Fact: Of a forest of thousands of trees they picked the ONLY three that validated the GW hoax.
LIAR.

They took tree data from all over the world, & only threw out a few northern trees which displayed the divergence problem.

You display a remarkable pride in your ignorance. You willfully ignore scientific facts.

Unfortunately for you, scientific facts are true no matter how many times you claim they're not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatic_Researc...

http://bartonpaullevenson.com/Climategate.htm...

http://bartonpaullevenson.com/EasyGreenhouse....

If you actually had an open mind & were willing to look at facts, you would read these. You won't, of course, because you follow Hegel's dictum that when the facts disagree with the preconceived notions, it's too bad for the facts.

Still, perhaps some lurkers have open minds...
SpaceBlues

United States

#23811 Feb 11, 2013
Michael Mann explains that we're seeing bigger storms with more snow because of global warming, and compared Nemo and Superstorm Sandy "to a basketball slam-dunk with a lower net." "If you take the basketball court and raise it a foot, you're going to see more slam-dunks," said Mann to HuffPo's Lynne Peeple's.

Michael Oppenheimer, another climate expert at Princeton, agrees. "Storms like this tend to be heavier than they used to be," he told HuffPo. "That's a fact."

In weather terms, that's because warmer temperatures and a moister atmosphere at just-below-freezing temperatures means bigger snowfall.

"In the past, temperatures at this time of year would have been a lot below freezing," making it too cold for heavy snowfall, said Kevin Trenberth of the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Colorado. "Sea surface temperatures are about two degrees Fahrenheit warmer than they were before 1980, raising the potential for a big snow by about 10 percent."
Deb Feyerrich CNNN

United States

#23812 Feb 11, 2013
Global warming is now causing asteroids to come close to Earth
SpaceBlues

United States

#23813 Feb 11, 2013
Deb Feyerrich CNNN wrote:
Global warming is now causing asteroids to come close to Earth
Why not? Thermosphere has shrunk among other man-made climate change effects.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics/Human_Fi...

That's because of about 90,000,000 tonnes CO2 per day, which is equivalent to 400,000 Hiroshima's per day.[Al Gore on PBS last month]
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#23814 Feb 11, 2013
Amused Slew wrote:
Mad, tiny ???
If it upsets you that the free expression of ideas is often heated and offensive, please do not use Topix.
The great dictator called Uncaused Stewed is cordial but belongs in that third world country…

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