Global warming 'undeniable,' scientists say

Full story: TwinCities.com

Scientists from around the world are providing even more evidence of global warming, one day after President Barack Obama renewed his call for climate legislation.
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litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#23721 Feb 6, 2013
someone else wrote:
Do you hold allegiance to the United States and its constitution?
'OH, oh, say can you SEEEEEEEE, by the dawn's early light!' & 'americaaaaaaaaa americaaaaaaa'
Amused Slew

Minneapolis, MN

#23722 Feb 6, 2013
Amused Slew wrote:
<quoted text>He "won't" or he won't, because where I come from, the dummy loses.... As for proving you wrong, some folks don't care what the crazy folks "think".
My gay hubby, Slewsie, is the Spell Check Queen of Topix. All you losers out there better watch out.

“dening those who deny nature. ”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#23723 Feb 7, 2013
HomoSapiensLaptopicus wrote:
<quoted text>
Silly. We can study paleontologically going back billions of years. There's just more uncertainty when we use proxies of past climate. That doesn't mean we know nothing.
Silly again. CO2 is both an effect (especially initially with the Milankovitch cycles) AND a cause (later, & MUCH larger) of warming. The increased insolation with Milankovitch changes causes only slight warming; there must be positive feedbacks, including rising CO2, decreasing albedo as ice melts &, as warming continues, methane release. These feedbacks cause the vast majority of the warming we see during an interglacial.
Yes, CO2 levels were very high in the Cambrian, & probably had been so since they helped to break the last snowball earth event. However, the sun was ~4% dimmer then - BIG difference. Those things balanced out, making temps moderate.
AGW/CC has NEVER been "disproven," since more & more information over time has only verified the basic truth of the theory. It has made ~17-20 correct predictions, depending on how you count them.
Models are ALWAYS being adjusted to reflect new data, & this process has increased their accuracy over time.
Next time try linking actual science instead of the denier claptrap you always post.
Of course you can't link the NASA site you promised Wallop10 that "disproved" AGW/CC because it doesn't exist. All legitimate science organizations (with a few exceptions, like petroleum geologists, who are neutral) support the consensus on AGW/CC. More than 99.8% of scientific papers over the past 20 years support the consensus, less than 0.2% disbelieve it.
You'd get less consensus if you said "it's Tuesday" for goodness' sake. It's FAR beyond reasonable doubt that AGW/CC is correct.
First, the bad news. They started publishing studies in peer reviewed journals back in 2008 that disproved AGW and since then there has been numerous studies published that disproved AGW. To the point that only a few left overs like yourself are the only ones left who still are hanging in there. It went the way of the consensus and that was into the trash heap. That is the thing about a theory, all it takes is one person discovering one major error and it isn't a theory anymore.

And yes, we can study paleontologically going back billions of years, problem is that isn't the same as someone recording the high and low on a sheet of paper after reading it off a measuring device. And your claim that the sun was 4% weaker balancing it out is also a blow for the whole concept that CO2 is the cause. The sun changes in cycles and if CO2 is the cause then the sun being 4% weaker would not matter. It would matter if sun was a major source of climate change. Then it would mean that CO2 plays less of a part. Yet the real truth is that the earth during the Cambrian was a lush place full of life. We have the fossils to prove that. In fact much of the guesses about the climate have to do with those fossils.

“dening those who deny nature. ”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#23724 Feb 7, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>I'll bet everyone of those institutions receives public funding.
Not true, a few like the AAAS are lobbying groups who funnel funding back into election funds.

Although I have to wonder how much climate research the Nigirian, Sudan, Tanzania, Uganda, and Zambia Academy of Science do. Of course they all happen to have received grants from the US for scientific research. Not to mention they all have a history of government graft.
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#23725 Feb 7, 2013
We didn't live in the Cambrian period... Too bad, that's beyond you.

“dening those who deny nature. ”

Since: Jun 07

Norfolk va

#23726 Feb 7, 2013
Yet life thrived during the Cambrian with the higher CO2 levels. Which is the part you want to ignore.

Man could thrive in that type of enviroment.

Since: Mar 09

San Marcos, TX

#23727 Feb 7, 2013
tina anne wrote:
Yet life thrived during the Cambrian with the higher CO2 levels. Which is the part you want to ignore.
Man could thrive in that type of enviroment.
The minimal level of photosynthetic activity before and during Cambrian raised oxygen levels in Earth's atmosphere to approximately 10% of that found in the modern atmosphere.

http://www.bookrags.com/research/cambrian-per...

Do you think that you could survive in that atmosphere?
PHD

Overton, TX

#23729 Feb 7, 2013
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
'OH, oh, say can you SEEEEEEEE, by the dawn's early light!' & 'americaaaaaaaaa americaaaaaaa'
And you think topix doesn’t know what you publish? Attacks on me won't delete or erase what you are and what you do. You should stop making an ASSumption of your---self before you know the facts. Do contact topix to satisfy your accusations of the reprint BS your posting of what I said. You are a dumbASSumption of your---self again.
CRASSUS

Green Bay, WI

#23730 Feb 7, 2013
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
The first time Pres. Obama won election, the racists & threateners showed up at toxic topix AGW forums in force. Took a bit longer this time, but the racists & threateners are winding up now.
'cras ass' is a slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pig, who is too scared to use the 'N' word. We have the slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AND alleged & proud threatener toxic topix AGW denier brian_g stumble butt dumpster diver' ganghood, where all the worst slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pig AND alleged & proud threatener toxic topix AGW deniers hang out.
Its crowded, but you'll fit right in like a jig saw puzzle piece.
In order to help a Jigger out, I give free lessons on how to speak proper English. You Jiggers would do much better if you knew how to talk.

Since: Nov 11

Westerville, OH

#23731 Feb 7, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>You don't see that you are anticapitalist. Are you commie pinko?
I am PRO Capitalism!

Liberals hate the freedom that Capitalism provides.

Because Liberals believe that if someone in a corner of the world is happy, then someone else HAS TO be sad!

If someone is eating, then someone else is starving!

So the "starving" happens because and only because someone else is eating. Not because their government is socio-communist as the Liberals are, therefore depriving them of food and making them all equally miserably.

Since: Nov 11

Westerville, OH

#23732 Feb 7, 2013
Kyle wrote:
<quoted text>FACT: Human CO2 emissions are 100X that of volcanism.

FACT: CO2 concentration is rising 100X faster than any time in the historical record (800,000 yrs)

Sorry. Your argument is crap and has been exposed as crap a million times.
Nope! You are wrong!!!

See? You calculate amount of CO2 TODAY with volcanoes TODAY!!!

You forget a little fact!!!

Volcanoes BEING throwing CO2 long before humans invented any CO2 emitting tool!!!!

See? You Liberals' junk science melts at the light of common sense!!!

Yes, it is true that humans TODAY emit more CO2 that volcanoes TODAY, but you conveniently ignore the millions of years volcanoes being doing that!!!

1,500 active volcanoes times ten thousand years = Global Warming is a HOAX.
PHD

Overton, TX

#23733 Feb 7, 2013
The space out spacedoutblues is dazed and confused.

Since: Nov 11

Westerville, OH

#23734 Feb 7, 2013
HomoSapiensLaptopicus wrote:
<quoted text>OBVIOUSLY there have been MULTIPLE edits, & we've all heard several of them. You think I'm an id!ot?

The cops said afterward that he was told to NOT follow Trayvon, & yes, it's on tape. Editing wouldn't change that.

Yeah, leave to one of you troglodytes to think that Skittles & a soda is worth shooting someone over.

Don't worry, Zimmerman will go down, one way or another.
Nope! He will be found innocent on SELF DEFENSE. A concept you are ignorant about!

Self defense is when you do not let the government steal your hard earned money via taxes!

Self-defense is when the government come knocking your door to confiscate your second amendment right and you use your second amendment right to keep your second amendment right!

Of course your liberal media did not edited the part when Zimmerman was told not to follow him. That fits the template to fool brain dead liberals like you!

They edited anything that did not fit the template and you still believe the false version!!!

See? Liberals are brain dead hypocrites easy to fool by the Liberal Media.
PHD

Overton, TX

#23735 Feb 7, 2013
It' the scientific sciece fiction method.

Since: Nov 11

Westerville, OH

#23736 Feb 7, 2013
Once upon a time,
Scientists believed the Earth was flat,

Today, they believe in Global
Warming!
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#23737 Feb 7, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
Once upon a time,
Scientists believed the Earth was flat,
Today, they believe in Global
Warming!
No lies, Jose. That was the church. Read up on what the church did to the scientist aka Galileo.

Scientists are evidence-based, not belief-based like you, Jose. You are anti science but NO Rubio. LOL.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#23738 Feb 7, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
<quoted text>
I am PRO Capitalism!
Liberals hate the freedom that Capitalism provides.
Because Liberals believe that if someone in a corner of the world is happy, then someone else HAS TO be sad!
If someone is eating, then someone else is starving!
So the "starving" happens because and only because someone else is eating. Not because their government is socio-communist as the Liberals are, therefore depriving them of food and making them all equally miserably.
You are burning with your beliefs. Remember you sound like a commie pinko, not a Rubio.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#23739 Feb 7, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope! You are wrong!!!
See? You calculate amount of CO2 TODAY with volcanoes TODAY!!!
You forget a little fact!!!
Volcanoes BEING throwing CO2 long before humans invented any CO2 emitting tool!!!!
See? You Liberals' junk science melts at the light of common sense!!!
Yes, it is true that humans TODAY emit more CO2 that volcanoes TODAY, but you conveniently ignore the millions of years volcanoes being doing that!!!
1,500 active volcanoes times ten thousand years = Global Warming is a HOAX.
blah blah you are WRONG, and no Rubio.

LOL.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#23740 Feb 7, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
Once upon a time,
Scientists believed the Earth was flat,
Today, they believe in Global
Warming!
That's what you believe but you are WRONG. You are confusing the church with a scientist named Galileo. The church did bad things to Galileo because he showed the Earth was not flat like it was in the Bible.

Today we have 250 years of evidence that global warming is manmade and has been changing the global climate.

When are you going to catch up with the evidence?
Amused Slew

Seattle, WA

#23741 Feb 7, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
Once upon a time,
Scientists believed the Earth was flat,
Today, they believe in Global
Warming!
We call this a false analogy... One has no connection to the other. For you to present tripe says you've lost. In your example, you ignore all the times "scientists" are correct. Do better, this was really teabaggerish.

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