Final blow for dumb Crystal Sugar workers

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Hmmmm

Saint Paul, MN

#1 Nov 22, 2011
In yet another example of extreme union stupidity and arrogance the striking workers are being replaced permanently.

American Crystal Sugar advertising for workers
Associated Press
Updated: 11/22/2011 08:22:25 AM CST

GRAND FORKS, N.D.- American Crystal Sugar Co. has begun advertising for sugar factory workers, four months into the company's lockout of 1,300 union workers.

The lockout began Aug. 1 when the union and the sugar beet processor couldn't agree on a new contract. American Crystal has been using temporary replacement workers at its plants in North Dakota, Minnesota and Iowa.

Crystal vice president Brian Ingulsrud tells the Grand Forks Herald that the new ads are a recognition that the lockout is going to last longer than the company had hoped. Ingulsrud says if the contract dispute continues, the company's goal will be "to hire 1,300 employees."

Union member Lester Bergh says the ads add to the frustration of locked-out workers. He also wonders if the replacement workers aren't working out.
Keen Observations

Saint Paul, MN

#2 Nov 22, 2011
In the long line of dumb union moves this one ranks right up there. There is no way they'll get unskilled labor jobs that come anywhere near what they got at Crystal.
Mom called-behave child

Seattle, WA

#3 Nov 22, 2011
I'd say loyalty goes both ways and the offer was ridiculous, but keep watching American workers get abused. Your turn WILL come...
WORK

Prior Lake, MN

#4 Nov 22, 2011
The 4 letter word that puts fear in people.

Since: Jul 08

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Nov 22, 2011
where would crystal find unskilled labor that pays a decent wage, its not like unemployment is high, bargaining does not work in obama economy,
Mom called-behave child

Seattle, WA

#6 Nov 22, 2011
Bargaining works even worse in a rethuglican't economy, didn't your party refuse to bargain with Obama. Doesn't Newt want to put our kids into the work place as janitors ? Seems fine, for dumb/your kids, but decent parents want THEIR kids to have a better life, not training as servant, for YOUR overlords !!?

“I am always right.”

Since: Oct 09

Former MN Taxpayer

#7 Nov 22, 2011
Mom called-behave child wrote:
... ways and the offer was ridiculous ...
Specifically what was ridiculous about the offer?

Was it the raise they were giving to these unskilled laborers? Or was it the benefits package?

I am sure these unskilled laborers can all just go down to the union hall and get better jobs.

The union sure showed Crystal Sugar who was boss, didn't they?

No wonder you got fired from the Post Office. You are too stupid to breathe on your own.
Mom called-behave child

Seattle, WA

#8 Nov 22, 2011
Lots of questions and the usual LIE. Your family MUST BE EMBARRASSED !

IrishMN wrote:
It doesn't work with door to door people, but phone solicitors are always welcome to call me. When I answer the phone and they ask for IrishMN, I respond with:
"Oh, I am sorry. He just died. I am here clearing out the last of his belongings."
The silence is deafening.
And yes, I am that warped.

JW IN THE GROVE WROTE-wow your real name is irishmn.
Mom called-behave child

Seattle, WA

#9 Nov 22, 2011
Son, they're fighting for a piece of the profit, they MADE for the company and you're a OVERLORD !

I thought Cain said race didn't matter? Now he's playing the "victim" card.

I thought Cain called all the Blacks who disagree with him "Brainwashed?"

Cain is somewhat color blind ... Cain's latest talking point "I'm a Leader - not a Reader" came word-for-word from a Simpson Cartoon! The Simpsons are a bright yellow!

No ... Cain didn't inherit his money but he's sure having a ball spending the Koch Brother's money ... selling books and auditioning for Fox .

I'm still waiting for clarification- how did he pay for his cancer treatment? Pocket change or a CEO- type care package?

Would the same health care be available to the pizza worker or Crystal sugar workers !?

Oh- note to Cain- that religion dog just don't hunt, dude. It might work to alienate "them" (Mormons, Catholics, Muslims) but even the stupid Baptists wont use it to validate one evangelical from another.
Mom called-behave child

Seattle, WA

#10 Nov 22, 2011
http://www.startribune.com/business/126860723...

For more than half a century, a little-known Minnesotan firm called Strom Engineering has provided troops to help companies across the country battle their unions.

American Crystal Sugar sought reinforcements from Strom when it locked out some 1,300 union employees in Minnesota, North Dakota and Iowa last week. Strom workers have stepped in at a steel mill for nearly a year, replaced striking mechanics at Northwest Airlines and kept a food plant running during a dispute.

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"To us, Strom is basically an outfit that hires mercenaries to basically go in and destroy communities," said Mark Froemke, president of the AFL-CIO's West Area Labor Council and a member of the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco and Grain Millers union, which represents the sugar beet workers.

At Moorhead-based American Crystal, a farmer-owned co-op and the largest U.S. beet sugar producer, replacement workers arrived Monday morning in one of the biggest labor stoppages in the state in years. The company called in Strom's workers after union members overwhelmingly rejected a contract offer.

At another Strom location, workers were DENIED bathroom breaks and lady crane operators, were told to pee off the back of cranes !!!
break them all

Minneapolis, MN

#11 Nov 22, 2011
Mom called-behave child wrote:
I'd say loyalty goes both ways and the offer was ridiculous, but keep watching American workers get abused. Your turn WILL come...
unions just like barry are a thing of the past, as Wisconsin goes so will America !
Mom called-behave child

Seattle, WA

#12 Nov 22, 2011
Now THAT'S COMEDY ! LMAOROTF ! Let me know if/when you find a runner ! LMAOROTF !

“I am always right.”

Since: Oct 09

Former MN Taxpayer

#13 Nov 22, 2011
http://www.irishmninformationservices.org/bus... ...

For more than half a century, a little-known Minnesotan firm called Strom Engineering has provided employees to help companies across the country when unions look to destroy the companies.

American Crystal Sugar sought help from Strom when some 1,300 union members listed to the union goons and voted themselves out of a job.

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"To us, Strom is an outfit that hires people who value a job, and the American dream. said Mark Notsobright president of the AFL-CIO's Committee to Destroy Jobs for Unskilled Laborers and a member of the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco and Grain Millers union, which represents the sugar beet workers.

At Moorhead-based American Crystal, a farmer-owned co-op and the largest U.S. beet sugar producer, replacement workers arrived Monday morning. The company called in Strom's workers after union members overwhelmingly rejected a very generous contract offer at the urging of the Union Bosses who did not go without their paychecks even though the union members are now out of work and out of money.

At another Strom location, workers were thankful that Strom would provide this opportunity in an economy with the unemployment rate still above 9%.
Mom called-behave child

Seattle, WA

#14 Nov 22, 2011
Funny, you're posting a fake link and nonsensical lies as rebuttal ??? IS THAT ALL YOU'VE GOT !???

http://www.startribune.com/business/126860723 ...

For more than half a century, a little-known Minnesotan firm called Strom Engineering has provided troops to help companies across the country battle their unions.

American Crystal Sugar sought reinforcements from Strom when it locked out some 1,300 union employees in Minnesota, North Dakota and Iowa last week. Strom workers have stepped in at a steel mill for nearly a year, replaced striking mechanics at Northwest Airlines and kept a food plant running during a dispute.

...

"To us, Strom is basically an outfit that hires mercenaries to basically go in and destroy communities," said Mark Froemke, president of the AFL-CIO's West Area Labor Council and a member of the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco and Grain Millers union, which represents the sugar beet workers.

At Moorhead-based American Crystal, a farmer-owned co-op and the largest U.S. beet sugar producer, replacement workers arrived Monday morning in one of the biggest labor stoppages in the state in years. The company called in Strom's workers after union members overwhelmingly rejected a contract offer.

At another Strom location, workers were DENIED bathroom breaks and lady crane operators, were told to pee off the back of cranes !!!

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Trolls

Saint Paul, MN

#15 Nov 22, 2011
Mom called-behave child wrote:
Lots of questions and the usual LIE. Your family MUST BE EMBARRASSED !
IrishMN wrote:
It doesn't work with door to door people, but phone solicitors are always welcome to call me. When I answer the phone and they ask for IrishMN, I respond with:
"Oh, I am sorry. He just died. I am here clearing out the last of his belongings."
The silence is deafening.
And yes, I am that warped.
JW IN THE GROVE WROTE-wow your real name is irishmn.
"If I had to go to the internet to insult strangers, I'd be pretty sad, too !"--MC-SU
Mom called-behave child

Seattle, WA

#16 Nov 22, 2011
Trolls wrote:
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"If I had to go to the internet to insult strangers, I'd be pretty sad, too !"--MC-SU
Does your mommy need to visit her boo-boo ???

Do I NEED to explain the difference between ME insulting you and YOU admitting you're a POS, "hear sons" ??? LMAOROTF ! Pssst- Try MC-BC "hear sons" LMAOROTF !
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<quoted text>Trolls <quoted text>
I have probably lied thousands of times in my life, care to elaborate on which one you are talking about?
Trolls

Saint Paul, MN

#17 Nov 22, 2011
Mom called-behave child wrote:
<quoted text>Does your mommy need to visit her boo-boo ???
Do I NEED to explain the difference between ME insulting you and YOU admitting you're a POS, "hear sons" ??? LMAOROTF ! Pssst- Try MC-BC "hear sons" LMAOROTF !
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<quoted text>Trolls <quoted text>
I have probably lied thousands of times in my life, care to elaborate on which one you are talking about?
"If I had to go to the internet to insult strangers, I'd be pretty sad, too !"--MC-SU/MC-BC/Exspurt/E xpostal worker
Sam

Saint Paul, MN

#19 Nov 22, 2011
Mom called-behave child wrote:
<quoted text>Does your mommy need to visit her boo-boo ???
Do I NEED to explain the difference between ME insulting you and YOU admitting you're a POS, "hear sons" ??? LMAOROTF ! Pssst- Try MC-BC "hear sons" LMAOROTF !
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<quoted text>Trolls <quoted text>
I have probably lied thousands of times in my life, care to elaborate on which one you are talking about?
Hey Mom. You can fix my boo-boo any time. You gonna kiss it for me again? Ha ha.
Hmmmm

Saint Paul, MN

#20 Nov 22, 2011
I'd have to say these unskilled Crystal Sugar union idiots now have the top spot for gross arrogance and stupidity over the NWA mechanics.

“I am always right.”

Since: Oct 09

Former MN Taxpayer

#21 Nov 23, 2011
The saddest part of this whole Crystal Sugar strike is that the Union Bosses continue to receive their paychecks.

Aren't they the ones that are incapable of negotiating an acceptable contract with the management of Crystal Sugar? Obviously, the Union Bosses are not performing their jobs at an acceptable level.

The bulk of the employees are ND residents. They get no jobless benefits. We are now into month #4 of the strike.

Why isn't there a clause in the union contract that says that the Union Bosses don't get paid if the Union Members don't get paid?

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