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#109 Feb 16, 2013
tbird19482 wrote:
<quoted text> Sorry but when somebody makes a stupid false statement I have to ask them where they got their info from and when it takes a lot of prodding to get an answer it tells me it is nothing but a lie.
I made statements that showed that Neocon didn't know what he was talking about and I backed them up with over 15 sites where he could go and read the facts.
In post #49 he out right lies. and in post 64 he sends us to a web site that shows us that the econ. is getting better compaired to 2010 yet he says it is getting worse.
Maybe it is Neocon that is the " Birdbrain"
Have a nice day
You're dancing as usual. He did not lie. He said those were not his words literally. Meaning he repeated somebody else's info.
And his info backs up his statement that Bush's economy was better than Obama's. No, you the birdbrain.

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#110 Feb 16, 2013
get a clue wrote:
<quoted text>
You're dancing as usual. He did not lie. He said those were not his words literally. Meaning he repeated somebody else's info.
And his info backs up his statement that Bush's economy was better than Obama's. No, you the birdbrain.
" GET A CLUE" calling people childish names [ Birdbrain ] only show the rest of us that you don't have the mental capacity to hold an adult type conversation.
Now I have NEVER said that the economy under Obama was better than it was under Bush.[ if you think I did then please show us the post]
I have said that since Obama has taken office there have been more Jobs created then under Bush and you can read these facts in many places like here http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/11/02/1...
and some more reading for you if you can understand it http://www.factcheck.org/2011/08/reid-wrong-o...
Or this simple article http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/11/02/1...

Then there is the web site B.N. posted for us to look at,
Look at how the boxes get lighter and lighter as Obamas term goes on.
The only box that gets darker is the Nat. debt.

And as for B.N lying read post #40 [ there isn't any " marks on the last sentance or ref. to someplace where he shows us where somebody else said it.]
and he came back in post #49 to try and change it.
Have a nice night

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#111 Feb 16, 2013
get a clue wrote:
<quoted text>
You're dancing as usual. He did not lie. He said those were not his words literally. Meaning he repeated somebody else's info.
And his info backs up his statement that Bush's economy was better than Obama's. No, you the birdbrain.
One more thing.
IF G.W. had not tried to be another R.Reagan and had read up on just what Reagan did he would have learned that Reagan RAISED taxes MORE times than he cut them.[ I know all you right wing con. think he cut taxes but you don't look and see just how many times he raised taxes]
IF G.W. had left the tax system the way it was [ even with the two useless wars he got us into] we would have almost paid off the National Debt by now.
You might want to read up on it.
Here is a start http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/06/ronald-reag...
Have a nice night
get a clue

Buffalo, NY

#112 Feb 16, 2013
tbird19482 wrote:
<quoted text> One more thing.
IF G.W. had not tried to be another R.Reagan and had read up on just what Reagan did he would have learned that Reagan RAISED taxes MORE times than he cut them.[ I know all you right wing con. think he cut taxes but you don't look and see just how many times he raised taxes]
IF G.W. had left the tax system the way it was [ even with the two useless wars he got us into] we would have almost paid off the National Debt by now.
You might want to read up on it.
Here is a start http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/06/ronald-reag...
Have a nice night
You're nit-picking. Neocon said the economy was better under Bush. He proved it. The economic indicators are employment numbers, National debt, and Deficit. Neocon proved with his links that less people are employed now than when Bush left office. He also proved the National Deficit and Debt is much higher under Obama. You just can't see it!

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#113 Feb 17, 2013
get a clue wrote:
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You're nit-picking. Neocon said the economy was better under Bush. He proved it. The economic indicators are employment numbers, National debt, and Deficit. Neocon proved with his links that less people are employed now than when Bush left office. He also proved the National Deficit and Debt is much higher under Obama. You just can't see it!
" Get a clue " first of all I never said the economy wasn't worse.
But some of the info B.N. posted shows it is as good as it was when Obama took office.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/artic...
If you go to the web site above that B.N. posted for us to look at you can see that most everything is about the same if not better than when Obama first took office.
There are a few things that have gotten worse like the price of gas has gone up [ But under Obama it still has NOT hit the highest nat. avg. of $4.11 it did under Bush,/ It has hit a nat. avg of $3.87 under Obama ]
http; www.businessweek.com/news/2012-10-26/tumbling - gasoline-prices-diminish-issue -for-obama critics
You say that the unemployment rate is worst.
Well in Jan 2013 it was 7.9 [ DEC. 2012 it was 7.8] and in Jan 2009 it was 7.8%
http; www.bis.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm
and IF it weren't for Hurricane Sandy putting as many as 70,000 people out of work the rate would have been lower than 7.8%
And YES the Nat. debt is up but the Deficits have been getting smaller and smaller since 2009 [the last year Bush submitted the budget]
So if you look at the post B.N sent us to over all the economy is as good if not better in most respects as it was the day Obama took office.
And don't forget we were in the start of a recession that was the worse recession since the Big Depression.
Have a nice day

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#114 Feb 17, 2013
get a clue wrote:
<quoted text>
You're nit-picking. Neocon said the economy was better under Bush. He proved it. The economic indicators are employment numbers, National debt, and Deficit. Neocon proved with his links that less people are employed now than when Bush left office. He also proved the National Deficit and Debt is much higher under Obama. You just can't see it!
The web site I posted for the Unemployment numbers in my last post doesn't work.
So try this one
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000
Have a nice afternoon
get a clue

Buffalo, NY

#115 Feb 17, 2013
tbird19482 wrote:
<quoted text>The web site I posted for the Unemployment numbers in my last post doesn't work.
So try this one
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000
Have a nice afternoon
There were MORE people working when Bush left office then NOW.

The Federal Debt is MUCH higher NOW.

The Federal Deficit is MUCH higher NOW.

All proven with links provided by the Neocon.

This link you just posted proves the unemployment rate is higher NOW.

You lied when you said Bush never used the Veto. That was OK for you, but then you call the Neocon a liar.

You chastise the Neocon for a link that doesn't work but when you do it its no problem.

You go off on tangents on subjects that were not being discussed to deflect from the Neocon's facts.

Yet you still dance and continue to dance.

Get a clue!

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#116 Feb 17, 2013
tbird19482 wrote:
<quoted text>The web site I posted for the Unemployment numbers in my last post doesn't work.
So try this one
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000
Have a nice afternoon
more info to read
http://www.bls.gov/schedule/archives/empsit_n...

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#117 Feb 17, 2013
get a clue wrote:
<quoted text>
There were MORE people working when Bush left office then NOW.
The Federal Debt is MUCH higher NOW.
The Federal Deficit is MUCH higher NOW.
All proven with links provided by the Neocon.
This link you just posted proves the unemployment rate is higher NOW.
You lied when you said Bush never used the Veto. That was OK for you, but then you call the Neocon a liar.
You chastise the Neocon for a link that doesn't work but when you do it its no problem.
You go off on tangents on subjects that were not being discussed to deflect from the Neocon's facts.
Yet you still dance and continue to dance.
Get a clue!
http://www.bls.gov/schedule/ar chives/empsit_nr.htm#current

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#118 Feb 17, 2013
get a clue wrote:
<quoted text>
There were MORE people working when Bush left office then NOW.
The Federal Debt is MUCH higher NOW.
The Federal Deficit is MUCH higher NOW.
All proven with links provided by the Neocon.
This link you just posted proves the unemployment rate is higher NOW.
You lied when you said Bush never used the Veto. That was OK for you, but then you call the Neocon a liar.
You chastise the Neocon for a link that doesn't work but when you do it its no problem.
You go off on tangents on subjects that were not being discussed to deflect from the Neocon's facts.
Yet you still dance and continue to dance.
Get a clue!
First of all as for the link that didn't work at least I checked it out and when I found out it didn't work I replaced it with one that did.
Now I never said the debt and deficit weren't going up.
I did say the debt is going up and that the DEFICIT is going down .
Now as for the Number of people working.
I said the unemployment rate was going down I did not say there were more people working now than when Obama took office.
But after doing some more research I founf this web site from the Fed. Gov.
http://www.bls.gov/schedule/archives/empsit_n...
you can go to Dec 2008 and see that at the end of the year there were 143,338,000people employed and at the end of Jan 2009 there were 142,099,000 people employed over halh of that decrease in people employed belongs to Bush but to give you an edge I will take just 50% or 620,000 and make the employment rate when Obama took office 142,719,000 and seeing the employment mu,bers stood at
143,322,000 at the end of Jan. 2013 it looks like there are MORE people working today than when Obama took office.
Have a nice day

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#119 Feb 17, 2013
get a clue wrote:
<quoted text>
There were MORE people working when Bush left office then NOW.
The Federal Debt is MUCH higher NOW.
The Federal Deficit is MUCH higher NOW.
All proven with links provided by the Neocon.
This link you just posted proves the unemployment rate is higher NOW.
You lied when you said Bush never used the Veto. That was OK for you, but then you call the Neocon a liar.
You chastise the Neocon for a link that doesn't work but when you do it its no problem.
You go off on tangents on subjects that were not being discussed to deflect from the Neocon's facts.
Yet you still dance and continue to dance.
Get a clue!
Here is some more reading that shows that there are more people working today than when Obama took office.
http://factcheck.org/2012/11/obamas-numbers-u...
Have a nice night
Lifeeeeee Coachhhhhhhhhhh

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#120 Feb 17, 2013

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#121 Feb 17, 2013
Lifeeeeee Coachhhhhhhhhhh wrote:
This says it all
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =STMVn8Wuq4kXX
All that tells us is that you are still an ass.
Have a nice night
get a clue

Buffalo, NY

#122 Feb 17, 2013
tbird19482 wrote:
<quoted text>Here is some more reading that shows that there are more people working today than when Obama took office.
http://factcheck.org/2012/11/obamas-numbers-u...
Have a nice night
And here is some reading that says there are less people working today.
Compare 2008 and Apr/May 2012 total private sector jobs and total government jobs.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/artic...

And stop dancing!

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#123 Feb 17, 2013
Do you actually read your own posts???

In post 118 you said and I quote "I did not say there were more people working now than when Obama took office."

One post later 119 you say and again I quote "Here is some more reading that shows that there are more people working today than when Obama took office."

So are you lying in Post 118 or are you lying in Post 119?

You got some nerve calling me a liar!

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#124 Feb 17, 2013
BFLO NEOCON wrote:
Do you actually read your own posts???
In post 118 you said and I quote "I did not say there were more people working now than when Obama took office."
One post later 119 you say and again I quote "Here is some more reading that shows that there are more people working today than when Obama took office."
So are you lying in Post 118 or are you lying in Post 119?
You got some nerve calling me a liar!
May be YOu should go back and read what I posted.
First of all I posted a web site in post #116 that did give the facts that there are more people working now then there were when Obama started in office.[ I never said there was but the article did]
In post 118 is where I said I didn't say That there were more people working now then back when Obama started and after doing some more research I found this web site and I gave the info and THEN I said that it looks like there are more people working today then there were back when Obama started.
All you have to do is go back and reread post #118.
Here is the article http://www.bls.gov/schedule/archives/empsit_n...
and the article from FactCheck http://factcheck.org/2012/11/obamas-numbers-u...
Have a nice night

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#125 Feb 18, 2013
BFLO NEOCON wrote:
Do you actually read your own posts???
In post 118 you said and I quote "I did not say there were more people working now than when Obama took office."
One post later 119 you say and again I quote "Here is some more reading that shows that there are more people working today than when Obama took office."
So are you lying in Post 118 or are you lying in Post 119?
You got some nerve calling me a liar!
One more thing for you to think about.
IF G.W had read a little History on R.Reagan and not tried to be R. Reagan and cut taxes like Reagan did he would have found out that Reagan raised taxes a lot more than he cut them and he still drove the Nat. Debt up by 188.6%[ from 227.224 Billion to 2 Trillion 684 b. 392 m.]
{ Reagan raised taxes 11 times]http://dailycaller.com/2 012/06/06/ronald-reagan-raised -taxes-11-times-the-real-story /
If G.W. had left things alone [you can go back and see that] Clinton had us on track to pay off the national debt by now.
But NO he had to cut taxes and started 2 wars he had no idea how to pay for.
Then he put it all on the debt and everything came due after HE left office.
But again It all falls on the Pres. that is in office now.
Got to love G.W.
Have a nice night
Lifeeeeee Coachhhhhhhhhhh

Chesapeake, VA

#126 Feb 18, 2013
tbird19482 wrote:
<quoted text>One more thing for you to think about.
IF G.W had read a little History on R.Reagan and not tried to be R. Reagan and cut taxes like Reagan did he would have found out that Reagan raised taxes a lot more than he cut them and he still drove the Nat. Debt up by 188.6%[ from 227.224 Billion to 2 Trillion 684 b. 392 m.]
{ Reagan raised taxes 11 times]http://dailycaller.com/2 012/06/06/ronald-reagan-raised -taxes-11-times-the-real-story /
If G.W. had left things alone [you can go back and see that] Clinton had us on track to pay off the national debt by now.
But NO he had to cut taxes and started 2 wars he had no idea how to pay for.
Then he put it all on the debt and everything came due after HE left office.
But again It all falls on the Pres. that is in office now.
Got to love G.W.
Have a nice night
tbird, did you have more cats during the Bush or the Obama administration?

Gump, did you have more carbuncles during the Bush or the Obama administration?

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#127 Feb 18, 2013
Lifeeeeee Coachhhhhhhhhhh wrote:
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tbird, did you have more cats during the Bush or the Obama administration?
Gump, did you have more carbuncles during the Bush or the Obama administration?
L.C I have had the same number of cats from the time Bush was in office as I have had for any Pres. from 1974 on, NONE!![ I have not owned a cat since 1973 and that one lived outside, I wouldn't have one in my house, UNLIKE YOU a person THAT OWNES 70 CATS ]
Now thank you for coming on this thread and making posts a 5 or 6 year old child would do.
Have a nice night little one

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#128 Feb 18, 2013
Lifeeeeee Coachhhhhhhhhhh wrote:
<quoted text>
tbird, did you have more cats during the Bush or the Obama administration?
Gump, did you have more carbuncles during the Bush or the Obama administration?
P.S.
Just for everybodies info WHY don't you come on here and make posts that are on the intellectual level of an adult?
You say you have a degree in Sociology, I would expect that you should be at least 22 years old or more [ you say you are in your 50s] so why don't you act like a person of that age and NOT a 5 or 6 year old?
I am sure the people out here are sick and tired of your B.S. about "70 cats" and not being able to hold conversation on the level of an adult.
Just asking little one.
Have a nice night

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