A trip to the reservation doesn't alw...

A trip to the reservation doesn't always equal a big bargain

There are 111 comments on the WIVB Buffalo story from Jun 9, 2008, titled A trip to the reservation doesn't always equal a big bargain. In it, WIVB Buffalo reports that:

So, what happened to the deals? As gas prices soar, the prices on the reservations don't seem that much cheaper.

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Joe

Berea, KY

#1 Jun 9, 2008
The reservation gas has been higher than Sam's Club gas since April in Chautauqua Co. If the Indians aren't going to pass on the tax savings, then the State should collect the tax from the Indians. They are charging the tax only it's all for their profit.
Leary

United States

#2 Jun 9, 2008
Maybe this report will wake people up to the lack of saving money on the reservations
Dude

United States

#3 Jun 9, 2008
Something I have been wondering about for years. Their prices have NEVER reflected the actual tax savings, or even close to the savings (25 cents during the good times...please). That is exactly why I don't go to the reservation. If i'm going to "pay taxes", i'll pay it to NYS so something can be accomplished with those extra funds and not filling up Smokin' Joe's "tax free" pockets.
annoyed

Buffalo, NY

#5 Jun 10, 2008
has anybody else noticed that on the Salamanca reservation they have TURNED DOWN THE PUMPS?!?!? so now they are not only gouging us on the so called "savings" but they are also cheating us. this is ridiculous. if i was one of the owners i would drop my prices about .25 or even 1.00. and i agree if they are not going to help out their consumors, collect taxes from them!
Proper English

Buffalo, NY

#6 Jun 10, 2008
2 weeks ago, I filled up on the rez. Their price then was 20 cents cheaper than off the rez.

This week, the price was only 4 cents cheaper. Unfortunately, this does sound like price gouging to me now!

I am usually a big supporter of leaving the Indians alone, but now I may re-think that if all they are going to do is be greedy.
Bill H

United States

#7 Jun 10, 2008
Res gas is unregulated and comes from who knows where. No stamp of certification that it meets octane level stated. And have ya seen the tankers that deliver it from who knows where?. For the <.10$ diff it aint worth it.

“Terminally Silly”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#8 Jun 10, 2008
The Natives are cutting their own throats. For a couple cents per gallon I will buy where I live. Besides with a Quik Fill card I get a nickel off anyway. Pretty soon they will start hiking tobacco prices.
taxpayer

Buffalo, NY

#9 Jun 10, 2008
tell the taxpayers what else the senecas recive like no sales tax, free health care ,free prescriptions,free education,no property taxes,no income tax federal if they get caught.annuities from casinos right now are 1500.00per member every three months .do the math for a family of six.and now they want to gouge the public .most taxpeyers who find this out no longer go to there casinos .must be nice to buy a new car tax free .
tylerstwit

United States

#12 Jun 10, 2008
Most gas is delivered by United Refining from PA. Some is delivered by Queensway from Canada. A few have their own trucks and get their own. It's all good gas. They charge according to what they pay. Also it IS regulated on the rez. When it goes up and when it goes down, they are ALL notified.
One Who Knows
Bill H wrote:
Res gas is unregulated and comes from who knows where. No stamp of certification that it meets octane level stated. And have ya seen the tankers that deliver it from who knows where?. For the <.10$ diff it aint worth it.
Tom Bates

United States

#13 Jun 10, 2008
This one is so simple. The Indians know NYS will not lower the tax on gas. The State can gouge us ,not oil companies, the producers, libs feel OK about that. The Indians see the rush to give homosexuals rights ( big homo)and virtually nothing else. Go Indians, take advantage of the situation!! Our democratic leaders are pinheads!!!
tylerstwit

United States

#14 Jun 10, 2008
Why not do your research FIRST! The Natives were here long before you were. The WHITE man stole their land. They finally gave it back.
The money they are receiving right now is NOT casino money. It's from Bingo and land leases. ALSO when they buy a car, they pay the tax on it UNLESS it's delivered to the rez, then they must have a tax exempt form.
There seems to be a lot of jealousy here. Get to know some of the people you're complaining about. They're pretty nice folks.
AND I'm white!
taxpayer wrote:
tell the taxpayers what else the senecas recive like no sales tax, free health care ,free prescriptions,free education,no property taxes,no income tax federal if they get caught.annuities from casinos right now are 1500.00per member every three months .do the math for a family of six.and now they want to gouge the public .most taxpeyers who find this out no longer go to there casinos .must be nice to buy a new car tax free .
Helen

United States

#15 Jun 10, 2008
...it's all about the almighty dollar! But hey...if you can't afford to fill your tank to get to work, where will the dollars come from? We need to wake up and start to actually SHAKE UP the situation by boycotting the gas stations. Maybe the "trickle down" effect will force the powers that be to rethink what they are doing to the consumer. If THEIR bottom line is affected, it will encourage them to look for an alternative way to make their money.
Tom Bates

United States

#16 Jun 10, 2008
How are we going to boycott the gas station? With my scooter? A bike? For over 30 years we have stopped oil exploration in this country, The US invented the oil industry. This fact is ignored by the politicians. High prices? Thank an environmentalist and their party, the democrats.
Cheryl

Depew, NY

#17 Jun 10, 2008
They are gouging us also. It use to be a savings of at least 20 cents cheaper now they are just a few cents difference. I don't believe it is because of the shipping. It all comes down to GREED and I hope Karma comes to bite them all in the a--. Rotten, heartless bast----
Pete Carol

AOL

#18 Jun 10, 2008
Monday gas on Ton. reservation was HIGHER than local gas stations $4.17 a gal
Pete Carol

AOL

#19 Jun 10, 2008
On Mon. gas at Ton. station was 4.17 local station was 4.15
Dave

Buffalo, NY

#20 Jun 10, 2008
Cheryl wrote:
They are gouging us also. It use to be a savings of at least 20 cents cheaper now they are just a few cents difference. I don't believe it is because of the shipping. It all comes down to GREED and I hope Karma comes to bite them all in the a--. Rotten, heartless bast----
I don't know that you can call it gouging. What they're really doing is taking advantage of the knee jerk reaction that large numbers of folks are having to $4 + "off rez" gas prices and the super quick run-up in the price. The sudden increase in demand at the rez pumps allows the operators to increase the price. As long as the lines are still there there's simply no need to lower the price. It's a simple supply/demand situation.
Of course the situation may be short lived. When people learn that the rez discount is all but dried up (ie. through media reports such as this) they'll reconsider the worth of driving there (which is something they should have been doing all along). When the lines then shorten at the rez the operators will drop their price in order to attract distant customers.
I've often wondered if folks ever stop to consider the value of driving 15 miles out of their way to save a stinking 25 cents a gallon anyway. A 20 gallon fillup would save $5 bucks, but the 30 mile round trip, at a standard depreciation rate of 50 cents a mile costs them $15 in "wear and tear". It doesn't make sense. Then again the same people will make a similair trip to the mall just to take advantage of a five dollar coupon. Go figure.
Taxpayer

Troy, NY

#21 Jun 10, 2008
Time to collect the taxes on non -native americans.
Carol

Rochester, NY

#22 Jun 10, 2008
I filled up my gas can at the rez smoke shop on the Tonawanda Seneca reservation and never got a drop of gas in the can until it read $.53. Time to get people in to regulate the pumps!
taxpayer

United States

#23 Jun 10, 2008
comment was not meant to offend anyone .I belive the senecas are entitled to everthing they get and more.but why not let the people who patronise there smoke & gas stores save some money somewhere in this over taxed&priced n.y.s.

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