Muslims at Neb. meat plant seek praye...

Muslims at Neb. meat plant seek prayer compromise

There are 58 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Sep 21, 2008, titled Muslims at Neb. meat plant seek prayer compromise. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Fatuma Abbullahi, right, Leyla Ahmed, center, and Faduma Abdi, all of Grand Island, Neb., attend a gathering to discuss the recent firings of more than 100 Somali employees at the JBS Swift & Co.

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hanoverguy

Hollywood, FL

#46 Sep 23, 2008
I think they should be made to take their clothes off then put ladies underwear on their heads. It worked before.
Fed up with PC

Rockville, MD

#47 Sep 23, 2008
If they don't do their job, fire them. Please employers send a message to the Muslim Community that this will not be tolerated. "You are free to practive whatever religion you like here in America. America (public/private/corporate) is not obligated to give any preferential treatment to any religion, including Muslims. Don't won't to wear the uniform, don't work there. Don't want to work certain hours, don't work there. Don't want to drive cab for passenbers who carry alcohol, don't work there. Don't want to handle produce at a grocery store, don't work there. Don't want to wear the team uniform, don't play the sport. End PC NOW!
Here is your answer

Capron, IL

#48 Sep 23, 2008
are_you_serious wrote:
Can someone please tell me why almost every time I read about a labor dispute its the Somalis claiming they are being wronged and the US and its businesses absolutely have to change to accomodate them and their religion? Taxi drivers, Target, IBP, etc etc.
Where does this arrogant attitude come from? Their homeland is one of the most messed up countries in the world yet they have this "I'm superior to you" attitude. I just dont get it.
Religious questions are nothing new. In years past people of faith struggled to get employers to recognize Christian holidays, Jewish holidays, etc.(I recall some of the Jewish holiday issues being solved in the late 70's or early 80's) It's the same show with different actors.

Call it turbulence in the melting pot, nothing more dramatic than that. You and other folks here are also playing a cliched part, the opposition that claims that acts like this is unprecedented.

This particular case has been going on for a long time -- I remember talking about it at Christmas and Easter last year.(That was ironic, that there. You see, those are religious holidays granted to Christians despite resistance from bosses, etc.)

So many of the controversies surrounding immigrants are replays of older discussions. I'm sure Indians thought the pilgrims weird because they didn't learn the local language, practiced odd religions, and kept to themselves.

Since: Sep 08

Duluth, MN

#49 Sep 23, 2008
If I had to dig down deep and give my hearfelt advice for these people, I would say "SHUT UP AND DO YOUR JOB!! They should be happy there employed
Alex

Saint Paul, MN

#50 Sep 23, 2008
Boo wrote:
The correct spelling is sarcasm!!
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I used the Muslim spelling (LOL)
Consistent

Zimmerman, MN

#51 Sep 23, 2008
Here is your answer wrote:
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Religious questions are nothing new. In years past people of faith struggled to get employers to recognize Christian holidays, Jewish holidays, etc.(I recall some of the Jewish holiday issues being solved in the late 70's or early 80's) It's the same show with different actors.
Call it turbulence in the melting pot, nothing more dramatic than that. You and other folks here are also playing a cliched part, the opposition that claims that acts like this is unprecedented.
This particular case has been going on for a long time -- I remember talking about it at Christmas and Easter last year.(That was ironic, that there. You see, those are religious holidays granted to Christians despite resistance from bosses, etc.)
So many of the controversies surrounding immigrants are replays of older discussions. I'm sure Indians thought the pilgrims weird because they didn't learn the local language, practiced odd religions, and kept to themselves.
This sounds so true!

It is such BS!
Pragmatist

Onamia, MN

#52 Sep 23, 2008
Here is your answer wrote:
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Religious questions are nothing new. In years past people of faith struggled to get employers to recognize Christian holidays, Jewish holidays, etc.(I recall some of the Jewish holiday issues being solved in the late 70's or early 80's) It's the same show with different actors.
Call it turbulence in the melting pot, nothing more dramatic than that. You and other folks here are also playing a cliched part, the opposition that claims that acts like this is unprecedented.
This particular case has been going on for a long time -- I remember talking about it at Christmas and Easter last year.(That was ironic, that there. You see, those are religious holidays granted to Christians despite resistance from bosses, etc.)
So many of the controversies surrounding immigrants are replays of older discussions. I'm sure Indians thought the pilgrims weird because they didn't learn the local language, practiced odd religions, and kept to themselves.
So how many special prayer rooms were the businesses required for the Christians and Jews? How many special foot washing areas? Those are things for the place of worship, and should not have to be provided by the employer, period.
to hard

Saint Paul, MN

#53 Sep 23, 2008
Boo wrote:
As a thirty something, what upsets me the most is many of the elderly somalians and even some not elderly are drawing on Social Security to which they have never paid a nickle into, which will leave myself with NOTHING when I retire.
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It is not just Somalis drawing on it - it is every immigrant - legal or not. Makes me sick.
to hard

Saint Paul, MN

#54 Sep 23, 2008
Pragmatist wrote:
<quoted text>So how many special prayer rooms were the businesses required for the Christians and Jews? How many special foot washing areas? Those are things for the place of worship, and should not have to be provided by the employer, period.
Amen to that! oops can I say that?
umm

United States

#55 Sep 23, 2008
tjwillie wrote:
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That's the Pledge of Alligence, not the National Anthem, and if you don't belive in God, don't say that part. Nobody is required to say the Pledge, they are just required to stand durning it.
Now everybody go back a few months, and think about obama, he refused to say the pledge of Alligence, refused to salute, or place his handover his heart, has stated that he doesn't like the national Anthem, that he would prefer our National Anthem be something like "I'd like to teach the world to sing", has pulled the flag off his jet, refuses to wear the flag lapel pin and has stated that if the winds should turn he will stand with the muslims, WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WANTS THIS PERSON FOR PRESIDENT?? Get real people, this man should scare the H E L L out of this country.
Pete Wendell

Saint Paul, MN

#56 Sep 23, 2008
DogPoopinmyFood wrote:
Since everyone here is railing against Prayer in the public workplace, could you please explain why I have to say the National Anthem in school every morning? I dont belive in GOd, so why bother with the BS of 1 nation under God? What a crock.
What overfunded school district are you pretending to attend?

They did a horrible job.
S C Country

AOL

#57 Sep 23, 2008
to hard wrote:
Yes, it is good that the non-muslim employees stood up and said something. More of the majority need to stand up everywhere.
Stand up for what , freedom of religion,we alredy have that !
tinlizzie

San Antonio, TX

#58 Sep 23, 2008
The Last Word wrote:
Interesting how the article states that the muslims are seeking a "compromise" and that is to have their prayer schedule accomodated, compromise?
they only work 8 hours a day. let them pray the 16 remaining hours if they need to.
they just want to be catered to.
people say they come to live the american dream and as soon as they set foot here, proceed to make it into the country they left. just stay home.
tinlizzie

San Antonio, TX

#59 Sep 23, 2008
DogPoopinmyFood wrote:
Since everyone here is railing against Prayer in the public workplace, could you please explain why I have to say the National Anthem in school every morning? I dont belive in GOd, so why bother with the BS of 1 nation under God? What a crock.
do you not believe in America (the United States) also?
to hard

Saint Paul, MN

#60 Sep 23, 2008
S C Country wrote:
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Stand up for what , freedom of religion,we alredy have that !
No I was praising the non-muslim workers for standing up and filing a suit that the muslim were getting preferrential treatment from the company.
do what

United States

#61 Sep 23, 2008
Let's see, my grandchildren can no longer say Merry Christmas in school because it may offend someone, People in the workforce may no longer say Merry Christmas because it may offend someone. We are'nt supposed to mention Christ, wear t-shirts that proclaim our Christian faith because, again, it may offend someone.
I am sorry, but I am tired of trying not to offend anyone. This country was founded, and has always been led by men of faith. These muslims can work through the prayer time and abide by it, or prctice it home, not in the workplace.
my way of getting around those that might be offended by hearing merry Christmas? I look at the person behind the register and tell them
" you are welcome to come to a Birthday party, location, at your House of Worship, day? December 25th, check your newspaper for times, all are invited."

“I believe, and he is the one”

Since: Sep 08

United States of America

#62 Sep 23, 2008
The point that is trying to be made here is that a business does not have to give special allowance to when they (the Somaliaís) can take their breaks to go pray at different times everyday. The 100 +++ employees that were let go, was not for praying in a public place; but for leaving their work area to go pray when it was not their break time.. Do the employers have to give into everything that every employee wants??
DogPoopinmyFood wrote:
Since everyone here is railing against Prayer in the public workplace, could you please explain why I have to say the National Anthem in school every morning? I donít believe in God, so why bother with the BS of 1 nation under God? What a crock.


What I am reading is not that everyone is against praying in public places, but that it is wanted that every person that wants to work should have to follow the same rules. Would you give a Veteran the right to go outside in the morning and at dusk to salute the flag as it is raised and lowered everyday????? A business needs to have a set of rules for all to follow in order to help the business operate in a manner that benefits both the employer and the employee.
mike

United States

#63 Sep 23, 2008
Government is afraid of the muslims, along with the blacks, and the Latinos they can get everything they want, it is payment for not burning them up. Lord or budda or who ever watch out if they don't get what they want. That murder today of the Smolian none of them will rat on him.

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