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Nov 19, 2013
 
Here's one take on Renner's Nov. 8, 2013 conversation with Hadley cop Mark Ruddock, a slightly more complete version of which can be found on the Detective Dirtbag blog.

Ohio writer James Renner posted on his blog - on 8 November 2013 - the following, in quotes:

"Spoke to Hadley Police Officer Mark Ruddock today. He was the police officer who responded to Maura's crash [8 FEB 2004] in Hadley, Mass, which occurred after a night of excessive drinking. According to Ruddock, Maura would have likely been cited for failure to control her vehicle if she hadn't have [sic] disappeared shortly thereafter.

"Getting a misdemeanor likely would have impacted Maura's deal with the courts related to credit card fraud.

"When asked why he did not charge her with DUI that night, Ruddock hung up on me."

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Below is purely my opinion:

It's a virtual certainty that if Maura Murray was the drunk operator of a motor vehicle involved in a single-car crash, Ruddock would have arrested her. The liability associated with not arresting a drunk driver is too great. What if a drunk driver, especially one who has already crashed a car, is let go by the responding officer only to drive another car and crash that one, too? What if someone gets hurt? What if a drunk driver, allowed to leave the scene of a crash, becomes suicidal or becomes a danger to someone else? There is no way, barring a medical emergency, that Ruddock or any other cop would allow a drunk driver to leave a crash scene. No matter what the operator's excuse is, no matter how pretty she is, no matter what.

Ruddock would, like any other cop, have arrested Murray if she was drunk. After all, it was very late Saturday night (about 3:30 AM, Sunday morning). Murray was 21 years old. She lived in nearby SW dorms, an area known since its construction for student drinking. She had crashed a car. Ruddock would certainly have scrutinized Murray very closely. It wasn't as if Ruddock simply pulled Murray over for a minor traffic violation.

Presumably then, Murray wasn't drunk. But if she wasn't drunk, why didn't Ruddock simply answer Renner's question? Why didn't Ruddock tell Renner that Murray wasn't drunk? Seems simple enough. Why hang up on Renner?

But interestingly enough, Ruddock, according to RC Stevens, the first private investigator on the case, claimed at some point after the Corolla crash that he, Ruddock, had allowed Murray to leave the scene of the crash even though she was drunk.

Which is a curious thing for Ruddock to have claimed considering that Maura Murray was almost certainly not drunk.

Why would Ruddock, at some time after the Corolla crash, decide it was better to claim she was drunk than to maintain she was not drunk?

It's very unlikely that Ruddock would have invented this new story out of the blue. Something must have triggered it. Something must have happened - perhaps during at least one of the potentially overlapping investigations into the Corolla crash, into the Vasi hit-and-run, or into Murray's disappearance itself - to cause Ruddock to tell investigators that he let Murray go even though she appeared drunk. What might have motivated Ruddock to essentially change his account and claim that Maura Murray was drunk? What's the point?

And if Ruddock let Murray go when he should have arrested her, was he ever disciplined for it?

If Murray was not drunk, then why didn't Ruddock simply tell Renner that she was not drunk?

And if Murray was drunk, why didn't Ruddock arrest her?

It's hard to believe that Ruddock would have allowed a drunk driver who had just crashed a car to simply leave the scene unarrested, regardless of her excuse - unless someone, possibly known to both Murray and Ruddock, intervened.

Seems like Ruddock and the Hadley PD have some 'splainin to do. To the public. ASAP.
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Here's one take on Renner's Nov. 8, 2013 conversation with Hadley cop Mark Ruddock, a slightly more complete version of which can be found on the Detective Dirtbag blog.
Ohio writer James Renner posted on his blog - on 8 November 2013 - the following, in quotes:
"Spoke to Hadley Police Officer Mark Ruddock today. He was the police officer who responded to Maura's crash [8 FEB 2004] in Hadley, Mass, which occurred after a night of excessive drinking. According to Ruddock, Maura would have likely been cited for failure to control her vehicle if she hadn't have [sic] disappeared shortly thereafter.
"Getting a misdemeanor likely would have impacted Maura's deal with the courts related to credit card fraud.
"When asked why he did not charge her with DUI that night, Ruddock hung up on me."
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Below is purely my opinion:
It's a virtual certainty that if Maura Murray was the drunk operator of a motor vehicle involved in a single-car crash, Ruddock would have arrested her. The liability associated with not arresting a drunk driver is too great. What if a drunk driver, especially one who has already crashed a car, is let go by the responding officer only to drive another car and crash that one, too? What if someone gets hurt? What if a drunk driver, allowed to leave the scene of a crash, becomes suicidal or becomes a danger to someone else? There is no way, barring a medical emergency, that Ruddock or any other cop would allow a drunk driver to leave a crash scene. No matter what the operator's excuse is, no matter how pretty she is, no matter what.
Ruddock would, like any other cop, have arrested Murray if she was drunk. After all, it was very late Saturday night (about 3:30 AM, Sunday morning). Murray was 21 years old. She lived in nearby SW dorms, an area known since its construction for student drinking. She had crashed a car. Ruddock would certainly have scrutinized Murray very closely. It wasn't as if Ruddock simply pulled Murray over for a minor traffic violation.
Presumably then, Murray wasn't drunk. But if she wasn't drunk, why didn't Ruddock simply answer Renner's question? Why didn't Ruddock tell Renner that Murray wasn't drunk? Seems simple enough. Why hang up on Renner?
But interestingly enough, Ruddock, according to RC Stevens, the first private investigator on the case, claimed at some point after the Corolla crash that he, Ruddock, had allowed Murray to leave the scene of the crash even though she was drunk.
Which is a curious thing for Ruddock to have claimed considering that Maura Murray was almost certainly not drunk.
Why would Ruddock, at some time after the Corolla crash, decide it was better to claim she was drunk than to maintain she was not drunk?
It's very unlikely that Ruddock would have invented this new story out of the blue. Something must have triggered it. Something must have happened - perhaps during at least one of the potentially overlapping investigations into the Corolla crash, into the Vasi hit-and-run, or into Murray's disappearance itself - to cause Ruddock to tell investigators that he let Murray go even though she appeared drunk. What might have motivated Ruddock to essentially change his account and claim that Maura Murray was drunk? What's the point?
And if Ruddock let Murray go when he should have arrested her, was he ever disciplined for it?
If Murray was not drunk, then why didn't Ruddock simply tell Renner that she was not drunk?
And if Murray was drunk, why didn't Ruddock arrest her?
It's hard to believe that Ruddock would have allowed a drunk driver who had just crashed a car to simply leave the scene unarrested, regardless of her excuse - unless someone, possibly known to both Murray and Ruddock, intervened.
Seems like Ruddock and the Hadley PD have some 'splainin to do. To the public. ASAP.
Never heard of a cop letting someone slide? C'mon man!

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Never heard of a cop letting someone slide? C'mon man!
Sure, we've all HEARD of it. But in a case like this, in REALITY, it is very, very rare.

Why focus on it? If Maura Murray was drunk, the only way Mark Ruddock would have let her go is if he personally knew her. Or if someone else who knew both her and Ruddock intervened. Otherwise, she was not drunk.

And if Maura was not drunk, why did Ruddock not answer Renner's question? Why didn't Ruddock simply tell Renner that Maura Murray was not drunk? Simple question.
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"The liability associated with not arresting a drunk driver is too great. What if a drunk driver, especially one who has already crashed a car, is let go by the responding officer only to drive another car and crash that one, too?"

Liability? On what legal basis?

Assuming that there is one, would it apply on these facts? Maura crashed her father's car and was taken to her father's hotel. Therefore, the officer would have no reason to believe that she might operate another vehicle.

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Sam Ledyard wrote:
"The liability associated with not arresting a drunk driver is too great. What if a drunk driver, especially one who has already crashed a car, is let go by the responding officer only to drive another car and crash that one, too?"
Liability? On what legal basis?
Assuming that there is one, would it apply on these facts? Maura crashed her father's car and was taken to her father's hotel. Therefore, the officer would have no reason to believe that she might operate another vehicle.
How did Maura Murray get from the Corolla crash scene in Hadley to her father's motel? Did Officer Mark Ruddock drive her to the motel, tuck her in, sit beside her for a few hours until she slept it off? Seems unlikely.

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Sam Ledyard wrote:
"The liability associated with not arresting a drunk driver is too great. What if a drunk driver, especially one who has already crashed a car, is let go by the responding officer only to drive another car and crash that one, too?"
Liability? On what legal basis?
Assuming that there is one, would it apply on these facts? Maura crashed her father's car and was taken to her father's hotel. Therefore, the officer would have no reason to believe that she might operate another vehicle.
A cop has a chance to arrest a drunk driver, a driver so drunk she has just crashed the car she was driving, but he says no, why bother??? Who cares if she gets combative with the tow truck driver? Who cares is she jumps out at one of the traffic lights up the street? Who cares if she takes off from the motel? Who cares if she hurts herself or someone else? I don't think so.

Are these concerns simply unknown to cops - experienced cops - who have a drunk driver in front of them? A drunk driver who has just crashed a vehicle? Are you saying Ruddock would simply toss standard procedure out the window and let Maura Murray go if she was drunk? Do you know Ruddock? Do you think he's some kind of softie? Does the Hadley PD have some kind of go-easy policy on drunk drivers who crash a car? Definitely not.

Call it liability or call it common sense. If you're a cop and you have a drunk driver in front you who has just crashed a car, you cuff the driver and avoid any more headaches. You keep the driver and the public safe. At the very least, you cover your own fanny.

Ruddock is going to let Maura Murray go only if she is either not drunk OR if someone else comes along and asks or tells Ruddock to not arrest Murray.

To argue otherwise is a sure sign of desperation.
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How did Maura Murray get from the Corolla crash scene in Hadley to her father's motel? Did Officer Mark Ruddock drive her to the motel, tuck her in, sit beside her for a few hours until she slept it off? Seems unlikely.
My understanding is that she got a ride with the tow truck. The business which towed her vehicle is located next to North Amherst Motors. Perhaps you might locate the tow driver and speak with him. After all, you live in the area. I'm a few hours away.

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My understanding is that she got a ride with the tow truck. The business which towed her vehicle is located next to North Amherst Motors. Perhaps you might locate the tow driver and speak with him. After all, you live in the area. I'm a few hours away.
Mark Ruddock's report claimed Maura Murray left with the College Street Motors tow truck driver, who might be kind of hard to talk with.

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I don´t know about liability, but it does come off as odd Maura was allowed to leave the scene just like that. It seems she wasn´t even given a breath test. Maybe Ruddock was afraid he´d suffer some kind of professional consequenses over not having done a proper job (not saying he didn´t, just speculating).

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Mark Ruddock's report claimed Maura Murray left with the College Street Motors tow truck driver, who might be kind of hard to talk with.
Why would he be hard to talk with? Deceased? Deaf & mute? Just mean?
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Of course, there's alway this

http://www.telos.com/identity-solutions/index...

located in or near Ashburn VA - Loudon County VA is the data center capital of the U.S.

FWIW

But notice that the QC page lacks some of the frames included in the Amherst page.

But, yes, it's not only weird to the average person, it's also surprising how quickly the Amherst link was posted - right after I started a thread about Maura Murray and the Hadley MA police. It's as if someone was ready to let that fly at a moment's notice. Very clever indeed, at least to the average person.

Or is it intended to look like a clue?

Lots of possibilities here, hard to know what it means. But it didn't take long for someone to post it after the Amherst thread was started.

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PART 1.

Here's a revised version, now separated into two posts, of this thread's opening post, which can be found by Google-ing "detective dirtbag:"

Ohio writer James Renner posted on his blog - on 8 November 2013 - the following, in quotation marks:

"Spoke to Hadley Police Officer Mark Ruddock today. He was the police officer who responded to Maura's crash [8 FEB 2004] in Hadley, Mass, which occurred after a night of excessive drinking.

"According to Ruddock, Maura would have likely been cited for failure to control her vehicle if she hadn't have [sic] disappeared shortly thereafter.
Getting a misdemeanor likely would have impacted Maura's deal with the courts related to credit card fraud.

"When asked why he did not charge her with DUI that night, Ruddock hung up on me."

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Under almost all circumstances, it's a virtual certainty that if Maura Murray was the uninjured drunk operator of a motor vehicle involved in a single-car crash, Hadley police officer Mark Ruddock would have arrested her. The risk associated with not arresting a drunk driver is too great.

What if a drunk driver, especially one who has already crashed a car, is let go by the responding officer only to drive another car and crash that one, too? What if someone gets hurt? What if a drunk driver, allowed to leave the scene of a crash, becomes suicidal or becomes a danger to someone else?

There is no way, under ordinary circumstances, that Ruddock or any other cop would allow a drunk driver to leave a crash scene. No matter what the operator's excuse is, no matter how pretty she is.

And Ruddock would certainly have scrutinized Murray very closely. It was very late Saturday night (about 3:30 AM, Sunday morning). Murray was 21 years old. She lived in, and appeared to have just traveled from, nearby SW dorms, an area known for student drinking since its construction. She had crashed a car at a well marked intersection. It wasn't as if Ruddock had simply pulled Murray over for a minor traffic violation at noontime.

So it would at least appear that if Ruddock did not arrest Murray, then Murray wasn't drunk.

However, according to RC Stevens, the first private investigator on the case, Ruddock did in fact claim - at some point after the Corolla crash - that he, Ruddock, had allowed Murray to leave the crash scene even though she was drunk.

In other words, Ruddock, in essence, changed his story. Which perhaps explains why Ruddock refused to answer Renner's question. If Murray was not drunk, or if Ruddock continued to maintain that Murray was not drunk, then it would have been simple and easy to answer Renner's question. Instead of hanging up on Renner.

But why would Ruddock change his story? Why, at some point after the Corolla crash, would he decide it was better to claim she was drunk than continue to maintain she was not drunk?

It's very unlikely that Ruddock would have invented this new story out of the blue. Something must have triggered it. Something must have happened - perhaps during at least one of the potentially overlapping investigations into the Corolla crash, into the Vasi hit-and-run, or into Murray's disappearance itself - to cause Ruddock to tell investigators that he let Murray go even though she appeared drunk.

Since it's extremely unlikely that Ruddock would have allowed a drunk driver who had just crashed a car to simply leave the scene unarrested, one has to wonder...

Did someone else, probably known to both Murray and Ruddock, intervene? Did someone else persuade Ruddock to release Maura Murray unarrested? Did Ruddock change his story in order to protect that person?

Or did Ruddock change his story because investigators believed that the crash could not have happened unless either Murray was drunk or the crash was deliberate?

Obviously, it was impossible to get Maura Murray's version of what happened. But there sure has been a lot of interest in the Hadley Corolla crash.

It might be noted that Ruddock worked for the police department in Gill MA, next to Greenfield, before working at the Hadley PD.

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Nov 21, 2013
 
Or you can just go here:

http://detectivedirtbag.blogspot.com/2013/11/...

It's a little easier on the eyes and is one post in a short blog about Maura Murray's disappearance.

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So only two days after I started this thread - and on the first page, no less - two posts have been deleted. TOS violation?

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