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Since: Sep 12

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Jan 20, 2013
 
To understand the type of animals that come into the shelter one must understand the population of Weatherford and Parker County. In spite of the rather affluent people who have move into this area from other states, it remains a population comprised mainly of those on the lower economic scale to those of the middle and upper middle class. As Weatherford has no industry to help those on the lower economic scale better their situations, they remain regulated to service income jobs. To the middle and upper middle class this area has become a bedroom community where they commute to DFW and are away from home many hours during the day. A discussion of the affluent has no relevance here.

The majority of the animals that come into the shelter are strays, animals that were running at large. They are animals that have seen little or no vet care in their lives. The majority are underweight, have parasites both internal and external and other health issues. Some are aggressive, some are fear aggressive, some are relieved just to have a meal and a relatively warm and dry place to sleep. For some that first meal in the shelter is the first one they have seen in many days. The majority have not come from homes where their health needs are met and where they are loved. They were dumped, they escaped a miserable situation, they were bored from living confined to a back yard or maybe they were seized from a hoarder or puppy mill. The puppies and kittens are the result of careless animal owners. Owners who are either too poor to have their animals spayed and neutered or even now those who do not believe in altering animals. Puppies and kittens bring into the shelter many diseases from the absence of basic vet care. Most of the animals will be forgiving of their prior situations and become loving pets for their new owners. There will always be those who are too ill, too aggressive, or too unsocial to ever adapt. Because of the economic scale of our population a large percentage of the animals will fall into the un-adoptable category. To expect our shelter to become "no kill" is turning a blind eye to the real situation and problems that face this area. To demand that our shelter become "no kill" is to show ignorance of reality.

For those of you who do decide to adopt from a shelter, you must adopt hoping for the best but being prepared for the worst. If you can do this, then you are blessed. For a large percentage of the adopted animals the vet in the shelter is the first and last vet they will ever see - after all the animal was cheap, why waste money on a cheap animal when there are always more. Free or low priced animals are not always valued by the adopter. To sit back and applaud every animal that is adopted is to deny reality. To cry for those whose eternal sleep is met at the shelter is to be human. To deny some of those animals that eternal sleep is to be callous and cruel.
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Jan 20, 2013
 
Sure glad that you know what's best for everything and everyone. If you ever get cancer or something maybe someone can treat you to eternal sleep. Wouldn't want anyone to be callous or cruel now would we?

Since: Sep 12

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Jan 20, 2013
 
Texan wrote:
Sure glad that you know what's best for everything and everyone. If you ever get cancer or something maybe someone can treat you to eternal sleep. Wouldn't want anyone to be callous or cruel now would we?
When your president has completed his next four years, and you have killed all the wild life in this county (providing you have any guns or ammo left) I'll see you down at the soup kitchen. Your land won't be yours anymore, it will belong to the government, your money will only be fit for use as toilet paper. Then we can discuss who is cruel and callous. Until then - ado!
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#4
Jan 20, 2013
 
Mary is a fortune teller too. Is there anything she can't do? Oh, right, she can't seem to come up with any solutions or positive steps for change.

Since: Sep 12

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Jan 20, 2013
 
Crafter wrote:
Mary is a fortune teller too. Is there anything she can't do? Oh, right, she can't seem to come up with any solutions or positive steps for change.
The no-kill squad has not come up with any usable ideas, they continue to parrot the theories of their no-kill gurus. They continue to expect the tax-payers to foot the bill for THEIR idea of animal utopia. They like to regurgitate methods that have failed just as more and more are failing each day.
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Jan 20, 2013
 
ha ha ha ha ha, you live in your own world of imagination station.

They haven't failed. Numerous changes have already occurred and more are on the horizon.

You are just a bitter person Mary. Why are you so bitter? What is your mission? What is your cause?
What are you trying to accomplish because you continue to appear more and more ridiculous with each rant you make.

It's sad that negative attention seems to appease you. I feel sorry for you.

Since: Sep 12

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Jan 20, 2013
 
Crafter wrote:
ha ha ha ha ha, you live in your own world of imagination station.
They haven't failed. Numerous changes have already occurred and more are on the horizon.
You are just a bitter person Mary. Why are you so bitter? What is your mission? What is your cause?
What are you trying to accomplish because you continue to appear more and more ridiculous with each rant you make.
It's sad that negative attention seems to appease you. I feel
sorry for you.
Evidently you do not keep up with the latest information. I am not bitter, far from it, just realisitic. I choose not to live in a fantasy world although it appears that you and the other animal killers prefer to do so. Have fun at your party Wed.- here's hoping the Hudson Oaks police are watching out for drunks as some of you are know for really sucking it down.
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Jan 20, 2013
 
What party? I don't want to miss it!

Since: Sep 12

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Jan 20, 2013
 
Crafter wrote:
What party? I don't want to miss it!
Go read your facebook - should be quite a shindig.

Since: Sep 12

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Jan 20, 2013
 
There are only two options available for the Weatherford/Parker County Animal Shelter to go no-kill.

1. The no-kill girls open up their own REAL rescue, take the overflow from the shelter, take only those animals that need more time or need medical attention. Contract with the shelter for a certain number of animals per week and honor that obligation. There is not a successful no-kill municipal, open admission shelter that is successful without an SPCA or rescue in place to take the overflow - all others have failed miserably.

2. Once the shelter reaches 75% capacity, all animal control officers take a holiday until such time as space is available. The shelter must refuse all owner release animals. Space must be reserved for the animals from the contracted cities and emergency calls. No exceptions.

Now I realize that option one is out of the question because the girls are not serious about the no-kill - they are only pretending. They are at current trying to be all things to all people rather than picking a course of action and sticking to it. Therefore the only option available is option two, and my oh my, what an uproar that would cause with the taxpayers!
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Jan 20, 2013
 
For anyone truly interested in knowing more about No Kill, opening other shelters isn't a necessity. Here are the elements needed for success:
1. A Trap, Neuter, Release Program
2. High-Volume, Low-Cost or free Spay/Neuter
3. Working with Rescue Groups
4. Foster Care Program
5. Comprehensive Adoption Programs
6. Pet Retention Efforts/assistance
7. Medical and Behavioral Rehabilitation
8. Public Relations/Community Involvement
9. Working with Volunteers
10.Progressive Field Services & Proactive Redemption
11.Last but not least, having A Compassionate Shelter Director (at least WPCAS has that now)

http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-r...

The fact that WPCAS turns away hundreds of animals yearly, proves that that true statistics are even WORSE than reported. Imagine how terrible the numbers were if they didn't turn people away. It's staggering! Weatherford, we can do better! Parker County, we can do better! And we will!

Since: Sep 12

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Jan 20, 2013
 
Animal Rescuer wrote:
For anyone truly interested in knowing more about No Kill, opening other shelters isn't a necessity. Here are the elements needed for success:
1. A Trap, Neuter, Release Program
2. High-Volume, Low-Cost or free Spay/Neuter
3. Working with Rescue Groups
4. Foster Care Program
5. Comprehensive Adoption Programs
6. Pet Retention Efforts/assistance
7. Medical and Behavioral Rehabilitation
8. Public Relations/Community Involvement
9. Working with Volunteers
10.Progressive Field Services & Proactive Redemption
11.Last but not least, having A Compassionate Shelter Director (at least WPCAS has that now)
http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-r...
The fact that WPCAS turns away hundreds of animals yearly, proves that that true statistics are even WORSE than reported. Imagine how terrible the numbers were if they didn't turn people away. It's staggering! Weatherford, we can do better! Parker County, we can do better! And we will!
The most recent "success" story you posted on your facebook page relies on three different rescues - The Weatherford/Parker County Shelter has none. Once again you have no orginial ideas, just the same tired platitudes. If you think you will accomplish your idea of no-kill you had better raise a hell of a lot of money! Ah, Dustin is so compassionate he lets animals wallow in filth in kennel E - a kennel not fit for any animal. His idea of no-kill is to stack animals like cord wood, keep animals so long they become kennel crazy, so crazy that no amount of "walking" is going to cure them. Keep them so long they become ill and have to be put to sleep. So tell me, where is all this money going to come from? Those are some mighty expensive programs - free, low cost, spay and neuter, animal trainers, sounds as if the staff will have to more than triple and then there is the cost. The tax payers aren't going to approve millions in bonds to satisify your little group of do nothings. The shelter can't rely on your group - you proved that when you were allowed in the shelter before------

Since: Sep 12

Weatherford, TX

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Jan 20, 2013
 
One location the no-kill bunch is touting is The City of Rockwall. The City of Rockwall depends on the following organizations:
Collin County Humane Society
Rockwall Paws
Rockwall Shelter Pets

Another location they are touting is The City of Denton. Denton depends upon the following organization:
Denton Animal Shelter Foundation

The new Denton animal shelter is expected to cost 4.9 million with 117 kennels for cats and 115 kennels for dogs.

Information you will not find on the Help girls facebook page.

As I said, Weatherford has NO rescue or foundation as a support system nor as a source for raising funds for special projects. The Help squad claims their organization was founded to help the shelter, but how? By forcing the shelter to meet their unrealistic demands? By convincing the tax payers to spend millions on new programs? By taking over the shelter?
Texan

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Jan 21, 2013
 
Mary Rose your responce to me had absolutly nothing to do with my post, but for your information Obama is our President; yours and mine, it makes no difference that I did not vote for him (I don't know who you voted for) he is still the POTUS. This country has survived a lot, and it can survive a lot more. You are an idiot that needs all the DRAMA you can create just to get by, you do nothing but find fault in others, and try to instill fear with all your gloom and doom predictions. it is truely a shame you can't be humanely put down and thus out of your misery, I just do not want be callous and cruel. Oh well the law says we can't be as humane with you as you would be with the animals.

Since: Sep 12

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Jan 21, 2013
 

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Mary Rose your responce to me had absolutly nothing to do with my post, but for your information Obama is our President; yours and mine, it makes no difference that I did not vote for him (I don't know who you voted for) he is still the POTUS. This country has survived a lot, and it can survive a lot more. You are an idiot that needs all the DRAMA you can create just to get by, you do nothing but find fault in others, and try to instill fear with all your gloom and doom predictions. it is truely a shame you can't be humanely put down and thus out of your misery, I just do not want be callous and cruel. Oh well the law says we can't be as humane with you as you would be with the animals.
No, your post was you wishing I would die from cancer.(Talk about drama!)He may be your president but he's not mine - he belongs to the welfare addicts and the Hollywood croud. And yes this country will survive, worse off than prior to 2008, but it will survive. Now why don't you go post on the Tawni forums where your "wit" will be appreciated.
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Jan 21, 2013
 
No;I did not post a wish that you die of cancer. I said if you ever did get cancer that maybe someone would treat you to eternal sleep rather than let you suffer. Big difference. And if you are an American citizen of the USA; yes he is YOUR President whether you like him or not. Too bad so sad you need to get over it and move on, I already have. Now why don't you go back to school and take reading comprehension 101 so you will actually know what someone posts. Appreciation of my wit isn't needed be me in the least. At least I have wit and not just 1/2 of one like you.

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Jan 21, 2013
 
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No;I did not post a wish that you die of cancer. I said if you ever did get cancer that maybe someone would treat you to eternal sleep rather than let you suffer. Big difference. And if you are an American citizen of the USA; yes he is YOUR President whether you like him or not. Too bad so sad you need to get over it and move on, I already have. Now why don't you go back to school and take reading comprehension 101 so you will actually know what someone posts. Appreciation of my wit isn't needed be me in the least. At least I have wit and not just 1/2 of one like you.
So tell me, have you ever seen someone you loved die slowly of cancer, and listen to them pray every hour of every day for release from their extreme pain? And all the while all you can do is pray, watch and cry. I have.

Have you ever seen a dog so eat up with mange that it has no hair, skin swollen and bloody, eyes are not visable, a touch causes the dog extreme pain? I have.

So the next time you express your views with sarcasm and often crude remarks remember you do not know me. You do not know how much pain it causes to watch animals suffer and all the while others want that animal to live at all cost - pain and suffering be damned. That is the difference between myself and them------
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Jan 21, 2013
 
Yes to both questions Mary Rose, with My father I sat with him, fed him, cleaned him, and kept him as comfortable as possible. One of the best dogs my grandfather ever had was a stray that just showed up at his place, he and I bathed cleaned and cared for him, it was weeks of care but grand-dad and I thought it was worth it. They made quite a pair; him and that dog. It makes me smile to think of them. So; yes I do know how much pain it causes, I also know the reward you get inside for knowing you did the right thing. You need to remember I KNOW you and others like you who would rather kill than cure and remember also I will express myself to a selfrightious biddy like you in any manner I choose.
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Jan 21, 2013
 

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<quoted text>So tell me, have you ever seen someone you loved die slowly of cancer, and listen to them pray every hour of every day for release from their extreme pain? And all the while all you can do is pray, watch and cry. I have.

Have you ever seen a dog so eat up with mange that it has no hair, skin swollen and bloody, eyes are not visable, a touch causes the dog extreme pain? I have.

So the next time you express your views with sarcasm and often crude remarks remember you do not know me. You do not know how much pain it causes to watch animals suffer and all the while others want that animal to live at all cost - pain and suffering be damned. That is the difference between myself and them------
That said, I think it's time you STFU, mrs.

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Jan 21, 2013
 
Texan wrote:
selfrightious biddy
As you wish - try reading PETA web page sometime - interesting.

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