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Sep 18, 2012
 

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Nice weather to enjoy our parks with the family. The kids had a blast after school
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Sep 25, 2012
 
you two wouldnt know. when was the last time you or those actually paying for these parks went to all these million dollar parks? Shit the bike path will just link more low income apartments to the old Holland Lake (pond), as it does now. That is what I would awnt aroun my kids - a bunch of low income, high crime apartments. Good job City Council and Parks and Recs Board. You are really on the ball! but we know why you keep laying more and more concrete. How much of a kickback are you getting from the contractor and concrete co? dont worry, someoen from the inside has squealed like alittle pig ALL THE WAY HOME. after the Nov election there is going to be so much FUN that we may all be in a park jumping up and down with joy as the current city countil is recalled.

but you two keep pretending you have ever "played" in a weatherford park. you sickos are not quite the outdoorsy types. go eat something fried and shutup

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Sep 28, 2012
 
I can honestly say that the I am proud of our city parks. Especially the bike trail. Some are beautiful while others are very functional! Everyone agrees that we need more options of entertainment in the city to help keep out kids out of trouble. City parks are a great place to start!
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Sep 30, 2012
 
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I can honestly say that the I am proud of our city parks. Especially the bike trail. Some are beautiful while others are very functional! Everyone agrees that we need more options of entertainment in the city to help keep out kids out of trouble. City parks are a great place to start!
When YOU start paying high property taxes in the city then YOU can say we need more parks. This city council has put us into debt and is reaping the benefits financially from these dealings. That is what is WRONG with the parks. The last time they did the right thing and actually put the parks improvements to voters to decide, we voted NO. Do you know what they did after than vote? They went against Our Vote and did the project anyway. Now, they have found ways around taking these millions of dollars spent on park away from the voters to decide on. This city council has no regard for the citizens of this city. They prove it month after month. But we will not have to endure their malfeasance much longer

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Sep 30, 2012
 
For love or money wrote:
<quoted text>When YOU start paying high property taxes in the city then YOU can say we need more parks. This city council has put us into debt and is reaping the benefits financially from these dealings. That is what is WRONG with the parks. The last time they did the right thing and actually put the parks improvements to voters to decide, we voted NO. Do you know what they did after than vote? They went against Our Vote and did the project anyway. Now, they have found ways around taking these millions of dollars spent on park away from the voters to decide on. This city council has no regard for the citizens of this city. They prove it month after month. But we will not have to endure their malfeasance much longer
You are entitled to your opinion about the value of parks, but I simply disagree. I'm not looking to argue. We have a wonderful parks system and I want an even better one.

Your comments about high taxes are slightly misinformed. If you remember back a few years to that bond election that you speak of, the citizens voted NO on a Water Park and Recreation center. You never voted on whether to improve existing parks. Might consider checking your facts source?

The citizens did however approve and build a bond for a new Fire Station, with the understanding that we would raise taxes to pay for it. City council never raised taxes to pay for it!

I have paid city taxes for years, by the way. I would encourage you to better understand your government.
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Sep 30, 2012
 
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You are entitled to your opinion about the value of parks, but I simply disagree. I'm not looking to argue. We have a wonderful parks system and I want an even better one.
Your comments about high taxes are slightly misinformed. If you remember back a few years to that bond election that you speak of, the citizens voted NO on a Water Park and Recreation center. You never voted on whether to improve existing parks. Might consider checking your facts source?
The citizens did however approve and build a bond for a new Fire Station, with the understanding that we would raise taxes to pay for it. City council never raised taxes to pay for it!
I have paid city taxes for years, by the way. I would encourage you to better understand your government.
Holland Lake Park Baseball Field is the project that the voters voted down and the city went ahead with the project anyway using funds suposedly from the sale of our landfill. That was just a fairy tale to sooth the anger of the voters the parks true cost ran way over what the sale of the landfill generated. It is not even a legal field for baseball league play and it's parking is inadequated to accomodate visitors to an event there. It's cost ran way over the original bids as well. Just another porely planned deal for the current council and staff spending your tax dollars foolishly.

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Sep 30, 2012
 
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<quoted text> Holland Lake Park Baseball Field is the project that the voters voted down and the city went ahead with the project anyway using funds suposedly from the sale of our landfill. That was just a fairy tale to sooth the anger of the voters the parks true cost ran way over what the sale of the landfill generated. It is not even a legal field for baseball league play and it's parking is inadequated to accomodate visitors to an event there. It's cost ran way over the original bids as well. Just another porely planned deal for the current council and staff spending your tax dollars foolishly.
Perhaps I'm wrong, I don't ever remember that being up for vote? When was it up for vote by citizens?
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Sep 30, 2012
 
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Perhaps I'm wrong, I don't ever remember that being up for vote? When was it up for vote by citizens?
It was during Joe Tison's reign as mayorand king of Weatherford. He formed a citizen's committee to tell him what he instructed them to find in projects for a master plan for the city. His "Legacy" as he has been heard to call it. The Holland Lake Project was rejected by the voters for a bond to do it , so the council went around by the back door and sclaimed to find the funds, 3 million and change to do it. The funds were advertised as the proceeds from the sale of the land fill. That is up for serious debate since those funds have been publicly tapped several times to justify public money expenditures of questionable nature. A little digging in public record will satisfy your curiosity if you are that concerned. It is just business as usual by this council and Tison's as well. He is still very active in influencing our current council as well.
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Sep 30, 2012
 
If you are new to our little slice of Texas a history lesson would be helpful if you wish to become involved in the way this town is run. Old loyalties and family ties play a strong part in the who, what, and how things are done. The why of how elections come out and business is done is controled by a closed group of ole boys who do all they can to prevent anyone else from participating in the control of the flow of business and profit. Go to the library and read the Democrat starting with the 1950's to present time. That will give you a very clear picture of this town and it's movers and shakers. The names stay the same just the generation changes. It is rather incesteous and a closed club carefully concealed in good old boy back slapping and gripping and grinning.
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Sep 30, 2012
 
Accusations and never proof that's why the losers in last election stayed away from public contact so they did not have to prove anything they just make stuff up and throw it out but the voters have kicked them to the curb time after time and will do so again and I read where the marines are being trained better so they can properly protect embassies, seems they had no specific training for that purpose
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Sep 30, 2012
 
I keep hearing talk on this forum about how city council members are on the take..profiting personally from city decisions. I guess I must have missed the details. Please tell us and provide supporting facts the truths about which council member profited from any city decision These are pretty serious allegations and all citizens deserve to know the truth. So please share with us. We all need to know the specifics. City does not buy cars from the Mayor or the other councilman. Does not purchase guitars from Craigs. So I am trying to figure out how they gain personally from decisions.
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Oct 1, 2012
 
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I keep hearing talk on this forum about how city council members are on the take..profiting personally from city decisions. I guess I must have missed the details. Please tell us and provide supporting facts the truths about which council member profited from any city decision These are pretty serious allegations and all citizens deserve to know the truth. So please share with us. We all need to know the specifics. City does not buy cars from the Mayor or the other councilman. Does not purchase guitars from Craigs. So I am trying to figure out how they gain personally from decisions.
All that is necessary is to follow the money-- who gets the bids for projects, voting in favor of expensive projects, good luck in getting hard copy of this--the ones who do this are really good at it because that is how business has been done for decades here. Look at who has been in office far longer than is reasonable and you get part of the picture. Why should soneone be kept on boards for decades and kept in elected seats longer than is believeable. No one is that irrepaceable escept for a willingness to do favors and favorable votes to a selected few. Do your own reading of public records and see for yourself. Just know that the records in the vault of past council meetings have been sanitized and abreviated in recent years. The tapes or other recordings are not kept very long. Oh yes, another issue--the sale of public property for very low prices to certian local businessmen is worth a look as well. Check out the sale of the public market property, there is also a rumor of a pending sale of a portion of the First Monday grounds as well. That is a very curious item that could use some public light shone on it.

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Oct 1, 2012
 
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<quoted text> All that is necessary is to follow the money-- who gets the bids for projects, voting in favor of expensive projects, good luck in getting hard copy of this--the ones who do this are really good at it because that is how business has been done for decades here. Look at who has been in office far longer than is reasonable and you get part of the picture. Why should soneone be kept on boards for decades and kept in elected seats longer than is believeable. No one is that irrepaceable escept for a willingness to do favors and favorable votes to a selected few. Do your own reading of public records and see for yourself. Just know that the records in the vault of past council meetings have been sanitized and abreviated in recent years. The tapes or other recordings are not kept very long. Oh yes, another issue--the sale of public property for very low prices to certian local businessmen is worth a look as well. Check out the sale of the public market property, there is also a rumor of a pending sale of a portion of the First Monday grounds as well. That is a very curious item that could use some public light shone on it.
You did not answer that person's question - Just more beating around the bush - if you "know" all of this stuff, why not just spell it out. If you "know" all this stuff, why haven't you contacted the proper authorities? You are accusing the city of some serious stuff - no proof?
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Oct 1, 2012
 
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You did not answer that person's question - Just more beating around the bush - if you "know" all of this stuff, why not just spell it out. If you "know" all this stuff, why haven't you contacted the proper authorities? You are accusing the city of some serious stuff - no proof?
Not my job to fight with those issues. The issues are not news to a large number of folks who prefer to bury their heads in the sand and hope they won't be affected with the problems that currently exist. Also the kind of nasty retaliation that would be visited upon the head of a whistleblower is probably why the situations still are on going. A few people have tried to change things but the culprits are really dug in. How far would you be willing to stick your neck out to try and change the way things are being done? Not far I am sure. So don't find fault with those who do speak out as much as they can. Sooner or later the facts will come out and there will be no stopping what will take place. What goes around always comes around sooner or later.
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Parks used to suck big time. Good to hear they're better. You old broads would bitch if you got your tits caught in a brand new wringer.

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Oct 1, 2012
 
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<quoted text> Not my job to fight with those issues. The issues are not news to a large number of folks who prefer to bury their heads in the sand and hope they won't be affected with the problems that currently exist. Also the kind of nasty retaliation that would be visited upon the head of a whistleblower is probably why the situations still are on going. A few people have tried to change things but the culprits are really dug in. How far would you be willing to stick your neck out to try and change the way things are being done? Not far I am sure. So don't find fault with those who do speak out as much as they can. Sooner or later the facts will come out and there will be no stopping what will take place. What goes around always comes around sooner or later.
Then why discuss the matter at all? If you are not willing to "stick your neck out", why constantly bring it up? Several people (maybe they are all you) keep saying wait until spring, as if some miracle will occur. I don't know anything about wrong doing by the city - so why should I run to the authorities and complain?
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Oct 1, 2012
 
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I keep hearing talk on this forum about how city council members are on the take..profiting personally from city decisions. I guess I must have missed the details. Please tell us and provide supporting facts the truths about which council member profited from any city decision These are pretty serious allegations and all citizens deserve to know the truth. So please share with us. We all need to know the specifics. City does not buy cars from the Mayor or the other councilman. Does not purchase guitars from Craigs. So I am trying to figure out how they gain personally from decisions.
Who do you think supplies the music setup and lights for events at city supported venues? Craig's Music. but that is not the big issue. This city council is a mess.
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<quoted text>All that is necessary is to follow the money-- who gets the bids for projects, voting in favor of expensive projects, good luck in getting hard copy of this--the ones who do this are really good at it because that is how business has been done for decades here. Look at who has been in office far longer than is reasonable and you get part of the picture. Why should soneone be kept on boards for decades and kept in elected seats longer than is believeable. No one is that irrepaceable escept for a willingness to do favors and favorable votes to a selected few. Do your own reading of public records and see for yourself. Just know that the records in the vault of past council meetings have been sanitized and abreviated in recent years. The tapes or other recordings are not kept very long. Oh yes, another issue--the sale of public property for very low prices to certian local businessmen is worth a look as well. Check out the sale of the public market property, there is also a rumor of a pending sale of a portion of the First Monday grounds as well. That is a very curious item that could use some public light shone on it.

As I suspected you have no information. Just useless unfounded allegations. And others are right. If you do not have evidence of these accusations of bribery you are making I would get an attorney on retainer. You are slandering folks with these allegations. I trusted that you had information that would be important to all of us. Apparently I was wrong and all you have is libelous statements that could cause you some irreparable harm. Be cautious. Be very very very cautious. You could be served with a law suit soon. Those are some serious statements
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IwantToKnow wrote:
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As I suspected you have no information. Just useless unfounded allegations. And others are right. If you do not have evidence of these accusations of bribery you are making I would get an attorney on retainer. You are slandering folks with these allegations. I trusted that you had information that would be important to all of us. Apparently I was wrong and all you have is libelous statements that could cause you some irreparable harm. Be cautious. Be very very very cautious. You could be served with a law suit soon. Those are some serious statements
Thank you for the info as to being sued not going to happen because of any blogs. You have just satisfied my question of whether or not someone personally involed at the city is monitoring this web site. It stood to reason soneone was but now it is for sure. Enjoy the talk there is nothing you can to do to put worms back in the can or put spilled milk back in the bucket. Have a nice day!
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what "city supported events" are you talking about? the big Bruce Springsteen concert at Cherry Park? the American Rejects on the square series? John Coltrane on ice at the city skating rink? Funny, I can't think of one "city supported venue". Enlighten me, or do I have to wait until Spring?

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