Question of the week: Resolving the g...

Question of the week: Resolving the gay-marriage issue

There are 22 comments on the LA Daily News story from Jun 6, 2009, titled Question of the week: Resolving the gay-marriage issue. In it, LA Daily News reports that:

Question of the week: How should we resolve the gay-marriage question? Get out of the marriage biz We can resolve the gay-marriage question by getting the state out of the marriage business.

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tomas

White House, TN

#1 Jun 6, 2009
I'd say "Get the bloody churches" out of the marriage business!
TheCynic

Yuma, AZ

#2 Jun 6, 2009
Where are Saturday's online only letters?
Blistering Angry

Yuma, AZ

#3 Jun 7, 2009
"If the gay community is really as proud of who and what they are as they say, why don't they create their own bonding ceremony rather than change the marriage tradition which has existed in all of recorded history?

- JOSEPH JUDEN
Santa Clarita "

Time for a history lesson, J.J.
Throughout history all kinds of odd couplings have been accepted in various places and with a variey of societies around the world.

Marriage itself is a fairly recent institution, and totally contrary to natural law. Just because a bunch of control freaks wrote it down somewhere that marriage is only to be between a man and a woman doesn't make it right.
Truth

Mexico

#4 Jun 7, 2009
Marriage instituted by The Living God and performed by His Church according to His Word. Now get the True Churches out of the Marriage business? LOL! LOL! LOL!
Paul

Yuma, AZ

#8 Jun 7, 2009
A gay man and a straight man have exactly the same rights when it comes to marriage: Either can marry anyone they want of the opposite sex. Neither has more or less rights than the other. It's not about "rights", it's about re-defining marriage.
Paul

Yuma, AZ

#9 Jun 7, 2009
Blistering Angry wrote:
"If the gay community is really as proud of who and what they are as they say, why don't they create their own bonding ceremony rather than change the marriage tradition which has existed in all of recorded history?
- JOSEPH JUDEN
Santa Clarita "
Time for a history lesson, J.J.
Throughout history all kinds of odd couplings have been accepted in various places and with a variey of societies around the world.
Marriage itself is a fairly recent institution, and totally contrary to natural law. Just because a bunch of control freaks wrote it down somewhere that marriage is only to be between a man and a woman doesn't make it right.
"All kinds of couplings have been accepted..."?
Name one. Just one.
Phil

Ontario, CA

#10 Jun 7, 2009
Ok, so I', not Christian, I'm a Deist. Tell my why I should care what the Bible says? Tell me why I should allow Christians to dictate to me the terms of my life? I have no problems with Christians restricting their own lives voluntarily if that is what their faith dictates, but I have a lot of problems with Christians telling me I have to do certain things, or not do certain things because THEIR religion dictates it. Live your life and leave me alone to live mine. Your religion is nothing special, and certainly no reason to restrict the freedoms of others.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#11 Jun 7, 2009
Paul wrote:
A gay man and a straight man have exactly the same rights when it comes to marriage: Either can marry anyone they want of the opposite sex. Neither has more or less rights than the other. It's not about "rights", it's about re-defining marriage.
I see that you received your copy of the talking points memo from the National Organization for (heterosexuals only dammit) Marriage, too bad that you didn't take a couple of minutes to realize just how absurd an argument that really is. When the Iowa Supreme Court ruled unanimously that a law which limited marriages to only opposite sex couples was unconstitutional, one of the conclusions they reached was this; "A right to opposite sex only marriage, to someone who is Lesbian or Gay is no right at all". To say we enjoy the same right now is merely an absurd lie. Tell me, would you feel the same way if the law were reversed and only same sex couples had the right to marry? Would you still believe that we enjoyed the same right and you wouldn't see your right as being unfairly denied to you? The reality is that we all should enjoy the right to marry the person of our choice, free from any unreasonable or unjustified governmental interference. Granting the state the power to say who we may and may not marry based on something as irrelevent to such a relationship as the sex of the person we want to marry, is both unreasonable and unjustified.

“Post-religious”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#12 Jun 7, 2009
Paul wrote:
A gay man and a straight man have exactly the same rights when it comes to marriage: Either can marry anyone they want of the opposite sex. Neither has more or less rights than the other. It's not about "rights", it's about re-defining marriage.
"Viewed in the complete context of marriage, including intimacy, civil marriage with a person of the opposite sex is as unappealing to a gay or lesbian person as civil marriage with a person of the same sex is to a heterosexual. Thus, the right of a gay or lesbian person under the marriage statute to enter into a civil marriage only with a person of the opposite sex is no right at all."

Iowa Supreme Court, unanimous decision, Varnum v Brien, 2009

“Post-religious”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#13 Jun 7, 2009
Phil wrote:
Ok, so I', not Christian, I'm a Deist. Tell my why I should care what the Bible says? Tell me why I should allow Christians to dictate to me the terms of my life? I have no problems with Christians restricting their own lives voluntarily if that is what their faith dictates, but I have a lot of problems with Christians telling me I have to do certain things, or not do certain things because THEIR religion dictates it. Live your life and leave me alone to live mine. Your religion is nothing special, and certainly no reason to restrict the freedoms of others.
The religion of one man shouldn't be the law for everyone else.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#14 Jun 7, 2009
Paul wrote:
<quoted text>
"All kinds of couplings have been accepted..."?
Name one. Just one.
All you need to do is thumb through the pages of the Old Testament and you'll find no fewer than eight different takes on marriage, all seen as perfectly acceptable at the time, but many of which would be frowned on today, if not landing you in jail. During the Middle Ages, the Christian Church was even offering its blessings on same sex unions and records show that these were taking place over several centuries. The truth is that the Catholic Church didn't even view marriage as a sacrament of the faith until about 700 years ago and before that, marriage was left to whatever your local custom...
post

San Diego, CA

#17 Jun 7, 2009
tomas wrote:
I'd say "Get the bloody churches" out of the marriage business!
tomas wrote:
I'd say "Get the bloody churches" out of the marriage business!
Marriage is the history/tridition/teaching/ and lifestyle of the church.

Is it the gay community that force the church? Is it the gay community that force all FAITH.
The gay white man has always had his rights. The government should ensure that each AMERICANS has the right to be human.
The AMERICAN MILITARY ensure each enlisted AMERICANS are recognized by its name, s.s. number, and rank.
The church welcome all humans to attend, however, the church maintain the right not to accept all sexual intercourse habits/lifestyle.
The UCMJ sexual intercourse laws for all humans.
In America the religion law for one man is not the law for all americans.
GOD, JESUS, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT GIVE EACH PERSON THE RIGHT TO ACCEPT FAITH OR NOT TO ACCEPT FAITH. YOU ARE STILL LOVED!
The gay community have the equal right to start their own religion, none religion, and move on.
God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit will love all humans, however, GOD, JESUS AND THE HOLY SPIRIT do not agree with all humans sexual intercourse lifestyle.
The Federal Government cannot and should not force the church to change it's sexual intercourse laws!

QUOTES:
The religion of one man shouldn't be the law for everyone else.------Jerald
(THE RELIGION OF ONE MAN IS NOT THE LAW FOR ALL AMERICA)

"If the gay community is really as proud of who and what they are as they say, why don't they create their own bonding ceremony rather than change the marriage tradition which has existed in all of recorded history?
- JOSEPH JUDEN
Santa Clarita "
CIVIL UNION BENEFITS CAN BE OBTAIN BY LAW!
MARRIAGE BENEFITS CAN BE OBTAIN BY LAW!
EQUAL BENEFITS CAN BE OBTAIN BY LAW!
EQUAL BONDING CEREMONY CANNOT BE OBTAIN BY LAW!
IN MARRIAGE, COMMON UNION, CIVIL UNION, AND LIVE IN SHOULD ALL OBTAIN EQUAL BENEFITS?
The government do not control the bonding ceremony, however, the government control the EQUAL BENEFITS!
What are the legal rights and benefits of ALL UNIONS/MARRIAGES?
A gay man will never have the full experience of a WOMAN.
A gay female will never have the full experience of a MAN.
The FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LAW WILL NOT GIVE A gay couple the full marriage experience of a straight couple.
What are the legal benefits of marriage?
Can the law give equal legal benefits to all humans?
Marriage is apart of the church tradition which the federal government only recognizes marriage as "a legal union.
The federal government recognize other union and is not emotional about any bounding ceremony/sexual intercourse habits.
Phil

San Diego, CA

#18 Jun 8, 2009
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>All you need to do is thumb through the pages of the Old Testament and you'll find no fewer than eight different takes on marriage, all seen as perfectly acceptable at the time, but many of which would be frowned on today, if not landing you in jail. During the Middle Ages, the Christian Church was even offering its blessings on same sex unions and records show that these were taking place over several centuries. The truth is that the Catholic Church didn't even view marriage as a sacrament of the faith until about 700 years ago and before that, marriage was left to whatever your local custom...
I'm not Christian, so why should I be forced to compy with Christian dogma? You are using your faith to restrict the rights of others. Live your life in accordance with your religion's tennets, but leave the rest of us alone to lead our lives differently. It's not yours to oppress me with your religion. Nobody is telling you you have to marry someone of the same sex. You can marry a woman if that is what your faith dictates, but you are telling us that EVERYONE must do as the Bible says, regardless of whether or not they are Christian. That is not right.
Sol Maxwell

United States

#19 Jun 8, 2009
Make them wear pink stars like the Nazis. That way they can show their gay marriage pride

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#20 Jun 8, 2009
Phil wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not Christian, so why should I be forced to compy with Christian dogma? You are using your faith to restrict the rights of others. Live your life in accordance with your religion's tennets, but leave the rest of us alone to lead our lives differently. It's not yours to oppress me with your religion. Nobody is telling you you have to marry someone of the same sex. You can marry a woman if that is what your faith dictates, but you are telling us that EVERYONE must do as the Bible says, regardless of whether or not they are Christian. That is not right.
I'd be the last one to tell you that one needs to live according to anyone's interpretation of the Bible. You may want to re-read my posts again...
Sharon White Taylor

Wethersfield, CT

#22 Jun 17, 2009
My belief is spelled out in the op-ed I just sent. It answers every rational person's question about same sex marriage.
Leviticus 18 22

San Antonio, TX

#23 Jun 5, 2010
They will tell you that it's about property inheritance rights, or hospital visitation, or some other smokescreen. Bullsh...t.

Those issues can be worked out by two people and their attorney. As for marriage, there all sorts of nitwit "churches" that will offer them a ceremony. This is about something wigh poses a genuine threat to America.

This is an effort to legitimize a way of living which has never been sanctioned by any religious faith, or by any society which has survived into modern times. Gays are pushing an agenda which is so radical and disgusting that the mainstream electorate would never approve it in a century.

The voters of California made a wise decision in the last election to outlaw gay marriage. Let the a...s gropers drop dead and take their "lifestyle" with them.

“Peace”

Since: Feb 08

Earth

#24 Jun 6, 2010
Leviticus 18 22 wrote:
They will tell you that it's about property inheritance rights, or hospital visitation, or some other smokescreen. Bullsh...t.
Those issues can be worked out by two people and their attorney. As for marriage, there all sorts of nitwit "churches" that will offer them a ceremony. This is about something wigh poses a genuine threat to America.
This is an effort to legitimize a way of living which has never been sanctioned by any religious faith, or by any society which has survived into modern times. Gays are pushing an agenda which is so radical and disgusting that the mainstream electorate would never approve it in a century.
The voters of California made a wise decision in the last election to outlaw gay marriage. Let the a...s gropers drop dead and take their "lifestyle" with them.
You should do some serious research and you might learn just who the real Antichrist is....

You know why those cultures didn't survive?

Because the so called Christians who traveled around the world, murdered them!

Alexander Whitaker, a minister in Virginia, wrote in 1613: "They live naked in bodie, as if their shame of their sinne deserved no covering: Their names are as naked as their bodie: They esteem it a virtue to lie, deceive and steale as their master the divell teacheth them."
Furthermore, according to Bernardino de Minaya, a Dominican cleric, "Their marriages are not a sacrament but a sacrilege. They are idolatrous, libidinous, and commit sodomy. Their chief desire is to eat, drink, worship heathen idols, and commit bestial obscenities."

"They built a long gibbet, low enough for the toes to touch the ground and prevent strangling, and hanged thirteen [natives] at a time in honor of Christ Our Saviour and the twelve Apostles. When the Indians were thus still alive and hanging, the Spaniards tested their strength and their blades against them, ripping chests open with one blow and exposing entrails, and there were those who did worse. Then, straw was wrapped around their torn bodies and they were burned alive."

William Bradford, Governor of Plymouth, wrote:'Those that escaped the fire were slain with the sword; some hewed to pieces, others run through with their rapiers, so that they were quickly dispatched and very few escaped. It was conceived they thus destroyed about 400 at this time. It was a fearful sight to see them thus frying in the fire...horrible was the stink and scent thereof, but the victory seemed a sweet sacrifice, and they gave the prayers thereof to God, who had wrought so wonderfully for them.'
Mason himself wrote:'It may be demanded...Should not Christians have more mercy and compassion? But...sometimes the Scripture declareth women and children must perish with their parents.... We had sufficient light from the word of God for our proceedings.'...

“Putan end to religious thought”

Since: Jun 07

The Freak Kingdom

#25 Jun 6, 2010
Truth wrote:
Marriage instituted by The Living God and performed by His Church according to His Word. Now get the True Churches out of the Marriage business? LOL! LOL! LOL!
Sorry, but marriage is a legal and social contract that existed long before the church. It also existed in countries that had no church (until the damned missionaries came).

“Putan end to religious thought”

Since: Jun 07

The Freak Kingdom

#26 Jun 6, 2010
Paul wrote:
A gay man and a straight man have exactly the same rights when it comes to marriage: Either can marry anyone they want of the opposite sex. Neither has more or less rights than the other. It's not about "rights", it's about re-defining marriage.
Plain rhetoric. The point is that a straight man can marry the person that he WANTS to marry. A gay man is not allowed that basic right. Marrying who you WANT would fall under that old "pursuit of happiness" phrase that was intended to be an unalienable right for everyone.

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