Prayers for Lisa

Lenoir City, TN

#144 Jan 23, 2013
I'd probably be in the detectives' way as Lisa's parent because I'd be questioning anyone & everyone that knew her, and strangers too in case they seen or heard something about her or from her that could shed light on things. There's just no way I could rest from day one of a loved one not returning home! If Lisa truly did make phone calls to home, even if they were few & far between, I would have requested police record and trace the calls to help locate my teenage child. I don't understand how innocent parents could have remained silent for so long. You don't let your 14-15 yr old daughter wander off and not get the police involved- you don't settle for only phone calls from your child! Has the mother ever disclosed details about her last conversation with Lisa? Right or wrong, it appears to the public as suspicious, abusive, and neglectful to not report your child missing from day one if you have nothing to hide. If I were the parent and hadn't done so already, I'd take a polygraph to clear up as much as I could. If one is innocent, what have you got to lose? Why not take one? I pray Lisa is happy, alive & well, and simply chose to leave behind whatever it was that caused her distress back then (as some posters mentioned something "off" about her home life). Something was definitely "off" in the teenage girl's home life, for a parent to have settled for phone calls instead of her physical presence! If someone has her held captive, I pray that she is found soon and there's a happy ending. Of course if she has passed on due to someone harming her, I pray for justice. It was very sad to read some of the details about her life and disappearance. I pray she has love in her life and peace wherever she may be.
no name

Barberton, OH

#145 Jan 23, 2013
hope shes alive but i think he dead and i do think her mother knows more than shes telling
Brian

Helena, MT

#146 Jan 23, 2013
That was really well said Prayers For Lisa. As you've likely seen from the comments, I'm actively investigating this case as much as I possibly can. I too hope she is alive and doing well. Hoping she just chose to go elsewhere and live and get her life together. Then again, with some of the earlier comments people have posted and from what friends and others who knew her say, it almost seems like an impossibility that she could be still alive. I will always think positively though until I have proof otherwise. I work with a group called Websleuths and we try to help identify missing persons and unidentified bodies, remains etc. WE have had great success on that site and reunited many people and identified many people too, giving their loved ones closure after many years in some cases. I feel it's the least I can do. I lost someone very dear to myself and never have known what happened to her until perhaps now. Looks like we have tracked my friend down and she is deceased. Not a murder, thankfully, but it's still just as bad to lose her like I and her many friends have. Lisa's case is the same. There are many of us who will always love her and look for her no matter what. I personally don't care if someone 'thinks' she is deceased or not. I need proof of that before I'll get all negative and just assume she is dead. I don't know her mother or enough about her to judge her, but I sure as hell would never stop looking for my daughter if she had disappeared. Sounds a little odd and fishy that her mother just kind of gave up on Lisa. It seems like she has, anyway. But, as I said, I can't judge her because I do not know her or how she really feels. Lisa will forever be my 'sister' and one day soon, we'll get an answer to where she is or what happened. Someone out there knows for sure. They're just not talking. Take care and cheers to all - BRMc
Just passing through

Salem, VA

#148 Mar 10, 2013
Any new updates on this case? Anytime I hear about a person going missing, my heart instantly breaks for the family and friends who are left behind. This case really saddened me due to the lack of information and attention. I do not know this woman but I desperately am drawn to her for some reason. From her description that you all have painted, she sounds like a beautiful and awesome person. I am a mother of 2 and if one my children are even a few minutes late getting off of the schoolbus, I immediately call the school. Call me over protective if you want....I certainly am. I'm not sure what the circumstances were back then but it raises several red flags as to why Lisa's mother did not alert the authorities immediately. Perhaps she did not realize Lisa was missing for a few days? Ok that could be understandable due to the reports of her running away at the time. But, even after a few days, you would think that a mother or father would be shouting on the highest mountain that their daughter was nowhere to be found. Something is not right there. Another thing that bothers me is the comments from No Name. Each comment from you says pretty much the same thing....Lisa is probably dead and her mother knows more. If that is your simple opinion, why post that so many times? Are you trying to tell us something? Are you afraid to just come out and say it? I understand that you said it was just your opinion but I can't shake the feeling that you may know more. I may be wrong so please correct me if I am. You became very defensive when another commenter said basically the same thing near the beginning of this thread...that made me wonder also. If you think that, why is it not ok with you that someone else does as well?
Now, with all that said, I really hope that this case generates some publicity somehow. Maybe my comment will bump this back to the top and people will start talking about it again. Someone...somewhere...knows something and one day, I believe this case will be solved. One slip of the tongue is all it will take. I truly hope that Lisa is found, alive and well. If she's been hiding out all these years, she must have a good reason. If something tragic happened and if she was killed, then those responsible for her death will pay...whether it's in this life or the next. I believe that with all my heart. Prayers for Lisa and also for all of those who love and care about her. May one day she be found and her loved ones be at peace.
no name

Marion, OH

#149 Mar 11, 2013
Just passing through wrote:
Any new updates on this case? Anytime I hear about a person going missing, my heart instantly breaks for the family and friends who are left behind. This case really saddened me due to the lack of information and attention. I do not know this woman but I desperately am drawn to her for some reason. From her description that you all have painted, she sounds like a beautiful and awesome person. I am a mother of 2 and if one my children are even a few minutes late getting off of the schoolbus, I immediately call the school. Call me over protective if you want....I certainly am. I'm not sure what the circumstances were back then but it raises several red flags as to why Lisa's mother did not alert the authorities immediately. Perhaps she did not realize Lisa was missing for a few days? Ok that could be understandable due to the reports of her running away at the time. But, even after a few days, you would think that a mother or father would be shouting on the highest mountain that their daughter was nowhere to be found. Something is not right there. Another thing that bothers me is the comments from No Name. Each comment from you says pretty much the same thing....Lisa is probably dead and her mother knows more. If that is your simple opinion, why post that so many times? Are you trying to tell us something? Are you afraid to just come out and say it? I understand that you said it was just your opinion but I can't shake the feeling that you may know more. I may be wrong so please correct me if I am. You became very defensive when another commenter said basically the same thing near the beginning of this thread...that made me wonder also. If you think that, why is it not ok with you that someone else does as well?
Now, with all that said, I really hope that this case generates some publicity somehow. Maybe my comment will bump this back to the top and people will start talking about it again. Someone...somewhere...knows something and one day, I believe this case will be solved. One slip of the tongue is all it will take. I truly hope that Lisa is found, alive and well. If she's been hiding out all these years, she must have a good reason. If something tragic happened and if she was killed, then those responsible for her death will pay...whether it's in this life or the next. I believe that with all my heart. Prayers for Lisa and also for all of those who love and care about her. May one day she be found and her loved ones be at peace.
i did not know her but i did go to school with her
Reality check

Bridgeport, WV

#150 Mar 24, 2013
I don't know Lisa either but, Being a mother of daughters and granddaughters i am positive that i wouldn't have waited years after one of them went missing to report it unless she was in the witness protection program. I also know that if she left with a drug dealer that is now dead, I would be shouting his name to every human i came in contact with. Where are the officers that worked this case? After they were informed of the case why wasn't family and friends interrogated for hours on end for answers.Who else in the family or area went missing at the same time?. I cannot believe this case has went on this long without closure of some kind.Is there nobody in this world or family other than her mother that she would call and say Hi,I'm ok,Just wanted to say Happy birthday or I love you to.
A friend

Monroe, MI

#151 Apr 14, 2013
I was a friend of Lisa's and her family's. I can tell you without a doubt, that her mom was heartbroken, and did call her friends frequently to inquire. She did indeed hop on more than one airplane to look for her and did hire private investigators. She had frequently not come home, broke the rules, was using drugs and had run away a few times. Her mom did call the police and report her as a runaway.
A friend

Monroe, MI

#152 Apr 14, 2013
This was unbelievably heartbreaking for everyone. A mutual friend of ours had moved to Florida, and Lisa contacted her and her family (even went to stay there) and called her mom from there. But Lisa would not stay there. She chose to not go home. The friend she contacted and stayed with in Florida were a very loving famiily (and all of our families were in contact)
Lisa had drifted to a whole new crowd, was around a dark group of people that no one knew, she kept skipping school and getting deeper into drugs, ran around with alot of much older men, she was troubled. The reason that many may not have heard about her running away, she had stopped hanging around her normal friends. The family friends (who were not stoners) were the ones that her mom kept contacting, hoping Lisa would reach out and contact them. Any parent will know, if your child is beginning to run with a bunch of burn outs, and jump in the car with new folks that she just meets, how on earth would her mom contact those folks. This was 1981, and there was no internet. Her mom loved her, and was a wreck over her. Just heart sick, we all were. WE LOVED LISA. STILL LOVE LISA. STILL ARE HOPEFUL SHE COMES HOME.
Teens make bad choices, and this is a tragic consequence to some unwise decisions.
I just wanted to write in and try and clarify just how far her mom did go to find her. I am quite certain, she still is.
no name

Spencer, OH

#153 Apr 14, 2013
A friend wrote:
This was unbelievably heartbreaking for everyone. A mutual friend of ours had moved to Florida, and Lisa contacted her and her family (even went to stay there) and called her mom from there. But Lisa would not stay there. She chose to not go home. The friend she contacted and stayed with in Florida were a very loving famiily (and all of our families were in contact)
Lisa had drifted to a whole new crowd, was around a dark group of people that no one knew, she kept skipping school and getting deeper into drugs, ran around with alot of much older men, she was troubled. The reason that many may not have heard about her running away, she had stopped hanging around her normal friends. The family friends (who were not stoners) were the ones that her mom kept contacting, hoping Lisa would reach out and contact them. Any parent will know, if your child is beginning to run with a bunch of burn outs, and jump in the car with new folks that she just meets, how on earth would her mom contact those folks. This was 1981, and there was no internet. Her mom loved her, and was a wreck over her. Just heart sick, we all were. WE LOVED LISA. STILL LOVE LISA. STILL ARE HOPEFUL SHE COMES HOME.
Teens make bad choices, and this is a tragic consequence to some unwise decisions.
I just wanted to write in and try and clarify just how far her mom did go to find her. I am quite certain, she still is.
if it was my daughter I would yell screem and shout out all the names of my kids so called friends some one knows what happened to her but im sorry to say I think shes dead and I don't know for sure I just think that its been to long I think the police droped the ball on this one I don't have a lot of faith in epd
A friend

Monroe, MI

#154 Apr 14, 2013
That mother did everything that the police suggested. She gave them all the information she had. This was a runaway case. Not an abduction.
The Police were aware that Lisa contacted her mom from time to time. I have no idea how many other runaway cases were around the same time, or how many end happily. I know for a fact that we all were hoping that this would end happy as well, and that Lisa would decide to come home. Since she visited family friends in Florida, and called home, and then called friends from Texas (from what was stated earlier on the feed) and mentioned she was going to come back to town in about a month but said she didn't want to call her mom, or stay with her) even though she had been calling her, it would appear that the decision she was making was she didn't want to come home. I don't know where she was or who she was with, but it would seem like she had been out on her own, living without rules, and maybe to her coming home to that just wasn't appealing. When she was visiting the family in Florida, and talking to her mom, her mom offered to get her a plane ticket immediately to bring her home. Lisa knew her mom loved her and wanted her home
Drugs and alcohol (i am just assuming she was still partying) perhaps were a greater influence in her life as time went on.
This is a very, very sad situation. And her family is still heartbroken.
A friend

Monroe, MI

#155 Apr 15, 2013
Just to clarify, I really do not want anyone to think I am being harsh on Lisa. I really loved her, and we were friends. She was a bright, smart, outgoing, loving friend who really did look like she was 20. That photo was her 8th grade pix and she was utterly stunning. She just got in with the wrong crowd and way in over her heard.
The late seventies, early eighties, drug use was prevalent in Elyria, particularly in the Eastern Heights area and the North side of town. You would have found less kids that didn't use and drink (even young teens) than did. There were head shops all over town!!(drug paraphernalia stores)
Reading back thru this thread, it is clear that Lisa got caught up heavy in drugs, and just kept getting further along.
While it is true her home life wasn't ideal - she came from a divorced situation. Her mom worked full time. I believe it was hard for her mom to enforce rules and keep her at home and away from all of that. It is hard today, and there is more information for parents.
Every post has either her going to get high with some guy, meeting new friends and drinking beers, who all thought she was much older, or calling a friend (who really seemed to love her) and lying to him about needing a ride to go do homework with a friend, to get a ride to meet some seedy fella,(suggested drug dealer) finally to willingly leaving with a drug dealer.
I think Lisa was just looking for love and attention in all the wrong places. Not unlike many other young girls. And while using drugs - who on earth makes good decisions. Adults make moronic decisions on drugs, seriously.
The fact that she went to the family friends in Florida (who moved from the North side of Elyria to Florida) at least was a positive, hopeful thing. They were in constant contact with her mom and very worried and concerned over Lisa. The sad part is that Lisa couldn't be persuaded to stay or go home.
There is no way to know, but looking back, perhaps she was led into human trafficking (that wasn't a "known" thing, at least to my knowledge then) and was ashamed,(it is a huge problem now, and I am sure then, it just wasn't shed light on like it is now) or further into drugs, perhaps addicted to heroin, and couldn't get clean without help.(and help really wasn't out there then. This was 1981) Maybe an accidental death occurred, perhaps when in Mexico. There are any number of things that may have happened.
I think the misunderstanding here, is the comparison to randomly abducted kids and the Casey Anthony comparison is just so far off. Her mom was a good, hard working, single mom, trying to keep her daughter under control.(I don't know where her dad lived, but I never remember her ever even mentioning spending time with him, I could be wrong, she may have spent some time with him)
This wasn't a case like Natalie Halloway, where a one time event led to her disappearance. This was a case of a girl, who kept turning to drugs and alchohol to help her cope, and she just kept getting deeper and deeper in with a darker crowd, and it ended tragically.(I have not given up hope, it is just that her family has missed a life for a long time, and so has she.)
For those parents on this thread, think of it in context to having your own children...imagine having a 13, 14 year old, who was hanging around 20 year old men, going out with a lot of them, using drugs on a daily basis. Today, we would say, they are out of control, need rehab. That wasn't available then. That mom really tried to set and enforce boundaries and Lisa was a determined, strong willed young lady. I just hate that the mom in this thread is being demonized when it just was the opposite. She has never stopped loving, and looking for her.
I am glad I came across this, it has made me miss Lisa more, hug my own family , and realize that we need to be there for hurting teens that are all around us.
A friend

Monroe, MI

#156 Apr 15, 2013
no name

Springfield, OH

#157 Apr 16, 2013
A friend wrote:
i think a new fresh set of eyes need to look at the case
A friend

Monroe, MI

#158 Apr 17, 2013
this may sound completely crazy...but if you click on this pix...well...maybe.

http://lizzietleaf.blogspot.com/2012/05/speci...
A friend

Monroe, MI

#159 Apr 17, 2013
I am very grateful to everyone who has posted, it has brought this all back, and Lisa is on my mind 24 /7. I find myself perusing around sites, remembering different things that happened and little memories I had long since forgotten.
I am very hopeful, that this is a case where she is assuming a new life, and it is a happy one. And I would hope someday soon, she will call her family to give them closure.
maybe

Jersey City, NJ

#160 Apr 20, 2013
A friend

Monroe, MI

#161 Apr 22, 2013
Maybe, I dont see anything on that page except current news? the link i left was a pix of someone looking like Lisa (perhaps it didn't open that way)
i contacted her, she grew up in Omaha.
maybe

United States

#162 Apr 25, 2013
A friend wrote:
Maybe, I dont see anything on that page except current news? the link i left was a pix of someone looking like Lisa (perhaps it didn't open that way)
i contacted her, she grew up in Omaha.
ok maybe try google searching lms/ that link or image serch i saw a women that was arrested that looked very similar to what she may look like.
maybe

United States

#163 Apr 25, 2013
A friend

Monroe, MI

#164 Apr 26, 2013
ahhhh, that one came up. Very sad indeed. :0(

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