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US Citizen

Ithaca, NY

#1 Oct 1, 2012
Hopefully when the first debate starts Oct. 3, President Obama will have to answer the big question, "What happened to all of your promises?" If he couldn't get the job done, then he shouldn't have said he would. Clinton said that no President could have done the job, well then Obama should have admitted that he couldn't do it, instead of making unbroken promises just to get elected. Not only could he not do the job, but HE made things worse, and that is a fact. It is OUTRAGEOUS how LARGE our national debt is now!!!!

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#2 Oct 1, 2012
US Citizen wrote:
HE made things worse
That's a pretty vague statement. Care to be more specific?
GIR

Gouverneur, NY

#3 Oct 1, 2012
Randall Stevens wrote:
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That's a pretty vague statement. Care to be more specific?


I would assume he meant our President made things worse with all of the decisions he is responsible for including everything from our national debt, jobless citizens, price of gas and oil, our relationship with other countries, inflation, recession, our reduced credit rating, overspeading, school programs, Middle East war, Guantanamo Bay, Government run Health Care / Obamacare, special interests, failed execution of promises from when he was elected, outlook for our youth and current citizens, etc. etc.

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Since: Apr 11

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#4 Oct 1, 2012
GIR wrote:
I would assume
I wouldn't.
NY Maniac

Fayetteville, NY

#5 Oct 1, 2012
The majority of those things quoted, to include the economy, are the result of the wars in the Middle Ast, at about $2 billion a day. Wars that the previous administration started. He is getting us out of those wars, that he Didn't start, but It is impossible to "just leave".romney has said that he disagrees with pulling the troops out of Aghanistan, wants an increased presence in Isreal/ the Sanai, and would favor military action against Iran. Now how would THAT help anything?!
nobama

Ashburn, VA

#6 Oct 1, 2012
NY Maniac wrote:
The majority of those things quoted, to include the economy, are the result of the wars in the Middle Ast, at about $2 billion a day. Wars that the previous administration started. He is getting us out of those wars, that he Didn't start, but It is impossible to "just leave".romney has said that he disagrees with pulling the troops out of Aghanistan, wants an increased presence in Isreal/ the Sanai, and would favor military action against Iran. Now how would THAT help anything?!
well how would it help having the over the top socialist incumbent to remain in office, over taxes the workforce while giving money to the unemployed and welfare. He has said on more than one occasion he supports redistribution which is wrong on any level! My money is my money I shouldn't be forced to give it to some lazy ass pos that sits around faking some bullshit or squirting out kids to remain on the gov tit. Bottom line if your hungry...... You'll find work to feed yourself. Enough of this nonsense. go tea party! secondly he states he will not allow drilling on US soil for oil and we will find alternate energy resources naturally..........but sends 2 billion to south Africa to fund oil drilling and exploration????? How about use that here and create jobs? How about we stop sending a billion dollars a year to Egypt and Pakistan. He's the worst thing since carter!

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#7 Oct 1, 2012
nobama wrote:
He has said on more than one occasion he supports redistribution which is wrong on any level! My money is my money I shouldn't be forced to give it to some lazy ass pos that sits around faking some bullshit or squirting out kids to remain on the gov tit.
You do know that if all the wealth in this country were distributed equally among everyone, you'd probably have a lot more money, right?
nobama

Ashburn, VA

#8 Oct 1, 2012
First off I live comfortably, second I don't want handouts, I take pride in the fact that I earn my own money. So actually what your saying then if you were a successful person( which I'm guessing your not) you would be happy to go to work everyday and hand your money over to the non working generations of leaches around so they can sit around and have kids and get fat on your hard work?? If that's your view you really should get the hell out of this country because that is the exact opposite of the values this country was found!
NY Maniac

Fayetteville, NY

#9 Oct 1, 2012
Get over the "redistribution of wealth" diatribe. Obama wants everyone to pay the same amount in taxes. Heck, I want Romney, with $250 million in a Cayman bank account, to pay the same PERCENTAGE as I do! He pays 11-15% and I pay 22%! The rich are not paying their fair percentage of taxes. Warren Buffet even pays a less percentage than his secretary. It isn't about redistributing wealth, it's about everyone paying their share.

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Since: Apr 11

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#10 Oct 1, 2012
nobama wrote:
you would be happy to go to work everyday and hand your money over to the non working generations of leaches around so they can sit around and have kids and get fat on your hard work??
Those aren't leaches, you prick, those are our countrymen. They're American Goddamn Citizens, and I'd appreciate it if you'd stop taking a dump all over them, because yes, they are in bad shape.

They need better housing support, better access to food and preventative healthcare, and better education. Some of them need drug rehabilitation. Many need physical and emotional therapy. Pretty much all of them are underemployed. You think they're just going to have some sort of Divine Intervention and somehow begin earning more than minimum wage and drag themselves out of that?

Allow me to repeat, for emphasis, this VERY IMPORTANT DETAIL: Those are AMERICAN CITIZENS that you are suggesting we just cut loose to the breeze and hope they bootstrap their way out of mental illness, debilitating poverty, and a completely unemployable level of education.
nobama

Ashburn, VA

#11 Oct 1, 2012
NY Maniac wrote:
Get over the "redistribution of wealth" diatribe. Obama wants everyone to pay the same amount in taxes. Heck, I want Romney, with $250 million in a Cayman bank account, to pay the same PERCENTAGE as I do! He pays 11-15% and I pay 22%! The rich are not paying their fair percentage of taxes. Warren Buffet even pays a less percentage than his secretary. It isn't about redistributing wealth, it's about everyone paying their share.
10-15% percent is better than the zero percent the majority are paying! What percentage did Obama pay?? 20.5 which is also less than you.
The problem is generation welfare recipients, rewarding the people for having children they can't afford! here's a great idea instead of dogging the wealthy who most likely earned money dog the people who sit on their ass and pay zero percent!!!
Here's a great idea lets take someone who pays in 300 in tax and give them 8000 for having six kids. what percentage does that equate to there genius? Everyone should pay the exact same percentage! No write off's no gimmys. But if you were offered means of reducing your percentage you paid whether it be ridiculous or not you would take it. Stop giving away money and institute a flat tax! Problem solved!
The real problem isn't the rich not paying enough, it's the losers not paying any! especially when they work under the table and collect government freebies. Stop the madness!
Frigin bleeding heart liberal's! SMH
GIR

Gouverneur, NY

#12 Oct 2, 2012
nobama wrote:
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10-15% percent is better than the zero percent the majority are paying! What percentage did Obama pay?? 20.5 which is also less than you.
The problem is generation welfare recipients, rewarding the people for having children they can't afford! here's a great idea instead of dogging the wealthy who most likely earned money dog the people who sit on their ass and pay zero percent!!!
Here's a great idea lets take someone who pays in 300 in tax and give them 8000 for having six kids. what percentage does that equate to there genius? Everyone should pay the exact same percentage! No write off's no gimmys. But if you were offered means of reducing your percentage you paid whether it be ridiculous or not you would take it. Stop giving away money and institute a flat tax! Problem solved!
The real problem isn't the rich not paying enough, it's the losers not paying any! especially when they work under the table and collect government freebies. Stop the madness!
Frigin bleeding heart liberal's! SMH
Well said and cheers my friend. Stop the insanity of feeding the bottom feeders with rewards they do not deserve. The majority of the welfare are continued generations of people that play to the system that they are too dumb to be employable and too smart to stop using the system for what is was not intended for. You cannot drop out of high school - join the welfare line and start having kids and say you deserve the working families money equally. It doesn't work that way. Mr. Stevens is a joke.

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Since: Apr 11

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#13 Oct 2, 2012
GIR wrote:
Stop the insanity of feeding the bottom feeders with rewards they do not deserve.
Again, those are fellow American Citizens that you're calling "bottom feeders." Not very patriotic of you.
GIR wrote:
The majority of the welfare are continued generations of people that play to the system that they are too dumb to be employable and too smart to stop using the system for what is was not intended for.
Citation please.
GIR wrote:
You cannot drop out of high school - join the welfare line and start having kids and say you deserve the working families money equally. It doesn't work that way.
Uh, you're right, it doesn't. That isn't how the welfare system is set up. Do you actually know how the welfare system works, how it functions, and how it can be abused? Because statements like these seem to demonstrate that you don't.
nobama

Ashburn, VA

#14 Oct 2, 2012
Randall Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>Again, those are fellow American Citizens that you're calling "bottom feeders." Not very patriotic of you.

GIR wrote, "The majority of the welfare are continued generations of people that play to the system that they are too dumb to be employable and too smart to stop using the system for what is was not intended for."

Citation please.

GIR wrote, "You cannot drop out of high school - join the welfare line and start having kids and say you deserve the working families money equally. It doesn't work that way."

Uh, you're right, it doesn't. That isn't how the welfare system is set up. Do you actually know how the welfare system works, how it functions, and how it can be abused? Because statements like these seem to demonstrate that you don't.
the only logical reply to any of your posts is that your a complete and utter idiot!
US Citizen

Ithaca, NY

#15 Oct 2, 2012
Randall Stevens wrote:
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I wouldn't.
Gir....assumed correctly. Thank you Gir!
There are other things that Obama has done to make things worse.
Randall....How can you possibly disagree with that???
GIR

Gouverneur, NY

#16 Oct 2, 2012
Randall Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, those are fellow American Citizens that you're calling "bottom feeders." Not very patriotic of you.
***This is not about being patriotic, but believe me sir, you do not have to extend the patriotic arm to me. If I call someone out for what I believe they are acting like it is unpatriotic? Not taking off your hat or saluting our flag is unpatriotic. Bowing down to the Saudi King is not patriotic. Who did that - right...Obama. Adding 4 Trillion to our debt and ruining our healhcare system and relying on the middle class to support the country financially is unpatriotic.. <quoted text>
Citation please.
****I do not need to prove anything sir, you can talk to most patriotic citizens and they can verify what they witness. Statistics do not show abusers of the welfare system. It will show what you want it to show. There are many people out there abusing the system and collecting a check that can do more.
<quoted text>
Uh, you're right, it doesn't. That isn't how the welfare system is set up. Do you actually know how the welfare system works, how it functions, and how it can be abused? Because statements like these seem to demonstrate that you don't.
***I know how the system works, but have never used it and never will. It is a policital pawn for elections and a way to move monies around made by hard working middle class citizens. You cannot find articles and facts on how families cheat the system, because they are cheating the system and do not want to get caught. It happens everyday in every state and every county and town. If you believe that the welfare system that is set up today is flawless and followed by definition then you need to talk to more people and get out more sir.
US Citizen

Ithaca, NY

#17 Oct 2, 2012
Randall Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
Those aren't leaches, you prick, those are our countrymen. They're American Goddamn Citizens, and I'd appreciate it if you'd stop taking a dump all over them, because yes, they are in bad shape.
They need better housing support, better access to food and preventative healthcare, and better education. Some of them need drug rehabilitation. Many need physical and emotional therapy. Pretty much all of them are underemployed. You think they're just going to have some sort of Divine Intervention and somehow begin earning more than minimum wage and drag themselves out of that?
Allow me to repeat, for emphasis, this VERY IMPORTANT DETAIL: Those are AMERICAN CITIZENS that you are suggesting we just cut loose to the breeze and hope they bootstrap their way out of
mental illness, debilitating poverty, and a completely unemployable level of education.
Granted some do need assistance. But too many able bodied people are taking advantage of the government and expecting handouts. Also, you said these people are AMERICAN CITIZENS, well not true, as many are illegal immigrants getting handouts,and Obama promotes that. He thinks we should take care of them also. They have committed a crime and he is letting them get away with it. His aunt was an illegal that was granted amnesty.
GIR

Gouverneur, NY

#18 Oct 2, 2012
US Citizen wrote:
<quoted text>
Granted some do need assistance. But too many able bodied people are taking advantage of the government and expecting handouts. Also, you said these people are AMERICAN CITIZENS, well not true, as many are illegal immigrants getting handouts,and Obama promotes that. He thinks we should take care of them also. They have committed a crime and he is letting them get away with it. His aunt was an illegal that was granted amnesty.
Thank you to another patriotic US Citizen.

“I could be wrong.”

Since: Apr 11

The Internet

#19 Oct 2, 2012
GIR wrote:
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You cannot find articles and facts on how families cheat the system, because they are cheating the system and do not want to get caught. It happens everyday in every state and every county and town.
"I have absolutely no evidence of this, but it happens every day in every state."
US Citizen wrote:
But too many able bodied people are taking advantage of the government and expecting handouts.
How many?
US Citizen wrote:
many are illegal immigrants getting handouts,
How many?
US Citizen wrote:
There are other things that Obama has done to make things worse.
Randall....How can you possibly disagree with that???
I didn't disagree with that. I asked you to be more specific. And then instead of being more specific, GIR got even more vague, and posted this:
GIR wrote:
I would assume he meant our President made things worse with all of the decisions he is responsible for
ALL of the decisions he is responsible for? That's a bit hyperbolic, don't you think?

You guys keep blaming Obama for all of these problems, but you haven't yet explained HOW Obama caused any of these problems. What EXACTLY did Obama DO that you don't like?
GIR

Gouverneur, NY

#20 Oct 2, 2012
Randall Stevens wrote:
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"I have absolutely no evidence of this, but it happens every day in every state."
<quoted text>
How many?
<quoted text>
How many?
<quoted text>
I didn't disagree with that. I asked you to be more specific. And then instead of being more specific, GIR got even more vague, and posted this:
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ALL of the decisions he is responsible for? That's a bit hyperbolic, don't you think?
You guys keep blaming Obama for all of these problems, but you haven't yet explained HOW Obama caused any of these problems. What EXACTLY did Obama DO that you don't like?
Obama is a pretender. Pretends to be a leader. He breaks promises - just look at his record. He is a fraud. He pretends to be a leader and his is not. He disregards the truth. He says one things and acts out in an opposite manner. His achievements are fabricated and his morals are weak. He patriotism lacks a lot as he fails to salute soliders, bows the other countries leaders who are known terrorists and fails to respond to our core values of what this country was built on. We are still at the brink of an economic collapse and he has added 4 trillion to our debt since in office ( and counting ). He allows our resources to decline and continues to support those who fail to provide global stability. He came in with a lot on the table and has barely affected 1/4 of his his plate. He is a liberal with socialist/communist thoughts and pushes his religion down the throats of many real Americans who have fought for this country to remain what is was and should be today. He has crossed the line in several attempts to and the only thing he has done is announce our withdrawal from the Middle East. I am sure he has not though. This is my opinion.

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