Fatal car accident on Route 11 in Canton

Fatal car accident on Route 11 in Canton

There are 15 comments on the MyABC50.com story from May 6, 2012, titled Fatal car accident on Route 11 in Canton. In it, MyABC50.com reports that:

The St. Lawrence County Sheriff's Office is investigating a fatal car accident that occurred just before 4:00 Sunday afternoon.

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Crazy Train

Utica, NY

#1 May 6, 2012
Old people shouldnt drive after 60 anyway. They should be tested every year past the age of 60
Respect

Utica, NY

#2 May 7, 2012
Have some respect, will you? Ellie was a wonderful woman and very "with it." And once you are a bit older, you will realize that 60 is hardly "old" (she was in her mid-70s BTW). I am more fearful of the idiot 20-something year-olds I see texting and driving (and I drive behind them honking every time they are drifting off toward the guardrail) than I am a 60-year old who is no doubt is still working harder, using their brain capacity, than the younger generations ever will.
lsfkjgnb

Waterville, NY

#3 May 7, 2012
i totally agree with respect....the younger drivers are the stupid ones who think they are cool because they can finaly drive so they do stupid shit....they dont relize that there are childeren in other cars i hate people....i would rather ride with a 60 year old person instead of a 20-30 year old person
useless site

United States

#4 May 7, 2012
I disagree with both mistakes happen and I don't believe this the time nor the place to be placing blame nor name calling about someone else's accident. You both show alot of disrespect by your comments. After the family is done grieving and the cops do there job then your opinion may be placed. Now is not the time and sorry for the loss that the family has endorsed our prayers and thoughts are with u.
Canningmater 07

Canton, NY

#5 May 7, 2012
It's not just young drivers who drive and text. Just because your old doesn't make u good driver ... The people going 45 50 cause just as many people as the people who drive to fast
Citizen

Marietta, NY

#6 May 7, 2012
Canningmater 07 wrote:
It's not just young drivers who drive and text. Just because your old doesn't make u good driver ... The people going 45 50 cause just as many people as the people who drive to fast
Thank You! I take offense to those who have posted before. The comments you have made are no more disrespectful than the ones made in the original post. I happen to agree that after a certain age, the elderly SHOULD be re-tested every year. I'm not implying that accidents are only caused by them, because that is far from the truth, but I can't count how many times I've been behind them as they stop at green lights, slam on the brakes at inappropriate times, drive WELL under the speed limit, swerve, almost cause accidents, etc. The fact is, the health of an elderly individual can decline quickly. Just because you are healthy in March, doesn't mean you're going to be as spry in November.

As for the texting, please, it isn't limited to the younger generation. Do younger kids text while driving? Yes, and it drives me nuts too, but I've seen PLENTY of "older" people texting and swerving too. Your comments are much too narrow-minded and you are just hating on another generation. You are no different than YOUR parents who damned YOUR generation for stuff you did. I'm not condoning texting while driving, because the FACT is, it isn't safe, but it isn't just teens and college kids that do it. How many times have you read a map while driving? Done your makeup/hair in the car? Eaten in the car? Did you know that in 2009, the 30- to 39-year-old age group had the highest percentage of cell phone use in fatal crashes? I'm not defending the behavior or age group, because yes, the older generation DOES have more experience driving and vehicle safety, but they don't get a "get out of jail free card" because of this. My point is, that all age groups are at fault and for someone preaching respect, you aren't showing any.

And really, is THAT what you think of this generation, that they are incapable of using their brains? Last time I checked, it wasn't this generation that ran this country into the ground...

I'm not trying to start an argument here, rather, I just want to prove a point that not every person of every generation falls into perceived thoughts. I've been driving for many years now, though not nearly as many as you have, no disrespect intended BTW, but I have never been in one single accident or pulled over by a cop. There ARE safe drivers out there, from ALL generations. There are 80 year-olds who are better drivers than 25 year-olds and 25 year-olds who are better than 50 year-olds, etc.
Respect

Utica, NY

#7 May 7, 2012
Citizen:

First, I have every right to respond to the person who started this forum with a bit of disdain and anger. Someone actually took the tragic death of my family friend, headlined it here, and then use that friend to discuss how 60-year-olds (Studies don't even discuss aging drivers as anything younger than 70) should have to take annual road tests. I find this incredibly disrespectful.

Second, your stats are not correct. According to Geico, Allstate, Highway Transportation Authority, AAA Foundation and nearly every state transportation agency, those who are in the age bracket 16-20 suffer the greatest number of cellphone related fatalities. Those aged 21-29 are the next in highest cellphone/distraction fatalities. I don't report this with pride or arrogance as I have three kids of my own who will be driving soon and between the stats on texting and those related to alcohol consumption, they run a great risk to themselves and others on the road. A number of campaigns have been initiated to target this age group to help save their lives. My point to the poster was that calling out 60-year-old drivers is a bit discriminatory when compared the risks associated to other segments of the driving population.

Finally - you ask what I think of the younger generation? I have kids. I love them and have high hopes for them. I teach college. I love my students and have high hopes for them. Those who are raised with a work ethic, respect for others, earning what you need rather than entitlement and responsibility for one's behavior will no doubt rule the world. Do studies show that many young people are not using their brain CAPACITY (please read my phrasing carefully in my original post) when compared to their older counterparts? Yes. They Do. I didn't say they aren't capable of using their brains; I simply don't believe they always use them to their maximum potential (and studies like CNN's Why Men are in Trouble, 2011, among others) share these same concerns.
Painful

Syracuse, NY

#8 May 7, 2012
I sincerely hope your life contains more interesting activities than researching AAA statistics in order to "win" a pointless argument on Topix. You must be a SUNY professor. I am sorry for your loss but ignoring people like myself and the original poster will bring far less attention to a person that you would clearly rather pay silent respect to.
a salon owner Potsdam ny

Watertown, NY

#9 May 7, 2012
I will miss Ellie. She was very active in our community and had a beautiful soul. She was headed to the airport. She had been talking for several months about her trip to Poland. She has traveled all over the world and was a very young 74 yr old. She was also a teacher and local artist. i will keep all the families and their loved ones directly involved in my prayers. and to my dear Ellie, I will hold on to all the memories. I will forever miss you.
hhhmmm

Tully, NY

#10 May 8, 2012
as far as the texting and talking on phones go, there is no certain age that does it..all ages do. i have even seen COPS talking on phones and driving...
it is

New Hartford, NY

#11 May 8, 2012
Crazy Train wrote:
Old people shouldnt drive after 60 anyway. They should be tested every year past the age of 60
very possible this lady had a heart attack, which is something that could happen to anyone young or old

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#12 May 13, 2012
Citizen wrote:
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Thank You! I take offense to those who have posted before. The comments you have made are no more disrespectful than the ones made in the original post. I happen to agree that after a certain age, the elderly SHOULD be re-tested every year. I'm not implying that accidents are only caused by them, because that is far from the truth, but I can't count how many times I've been behind them as they stop at green lights, slam on the brakes at inappropriate times, drive WELL under the speed limit, swerve, almost cause accidents, etc. The fact is, the health of an elderly individual can decline quickly. Just because you are healthy in March, doesn't mean you're going to be as spry in November.
As for the texting, please, it isn't limited to the younger generation. Do younger kids text while driving? Yes, and it drives me nuts too, but I've seen PLENTY of "older" people texting and swerving too. Your comments are much too narrow-minded and you are just hating on another generation. You are no different than YOUR parents who damned YOUR generation for stuff you did. I'm not condoning texting while driving, because the FACT is, it isn't safe, but it isn't just teens and college kids that do it. How many times have you read a map while driving? Done your makeup/hair in the car? Eaten in the car? Did you know that in 2009, the 30- to 39-year-old age group had the highest percentage of cell phone use in fatal crashes? I'm not defending the behavior or age group, because yes, the older generation DOES have more experience driving and vehicle safety, but they don't get a "get out of jail free card" because of this. My point is, that all age groups are at fault and for someone preaching respect, you aren't showing any.
And really, is THAT what you think of this generation, that they are incapable of using their brains? Last time I checked, it wasn't this generation that ran this country into the ground...
I'm not trying to start an argument here, rather, I just want to prove a point that not every person of every generation falls into perceived thoughts. I've been driving for many years now, though not nearly as many as you have, no disrespect intended BTW, but I have never been in one single accident or pulled over by a cop. There ARE safe drivers out there, from ALL generations. There are 80 year-olds who are better drivers than 25 year-olds and 25 year-olds who are better than 50 year-olds, etc.
I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING you wrote. But unfortunately it's not what the older generation did to run this country into the ground that we should be worried about NOW. THAT can't be undone.. It's OUR generation that will CONTINUE the SAME MISTAKES they made. Kids are NOT properly disciplined the way the should be, THEN they grow up to do STUPID THINGS like texting while driving, drinking and driving, eating while driving, etc. etc. AND THAT isn't even the tip of the ice burg.
doe

United States

#13 May 13, 2012
It was an accident, they happen to even the best drivers. Nobody ever wants or tries to have one. I in my own opinion find cellphones to be problematic but not if proper judgement is used, tractor trailer drivers have used cbs for years which I find to be very similar.
Zachary Benson

Watertown, NY

#14 Aug 9, 2013
So you all know there was no cell phone involved she had a heart attack and died at the wheel before impact I recieved a fractured vertibre with a herniated disk pressing on my spinal cord its ended my military carrer, I do not put blame on her it was an accedent.
To Zachary

Utica, NY

#15 Aug 9, 2013
Sorry to hear about your injury and I hope whatever direction your next career stage takes you, that it is as fulfilling as your military career might have been.

I was the second poster, above, who said something about worrying more about young drivers texting (not implying that she was using one) than 60-year old drivers. I reacted to the original post (perhaps because I was upset about the loss of Ellie, and also because I hope when I reach 60, I am not treated as though I am too "old" to drive. If I had remained quiet, this thread wouldn't have taken off at all.

Ellie was a wonderful woman. I wish you well in the future...

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