Fowler School discussion will be Feb. 11

Jan 25, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Watertown Daily Times

Whether to close Fowler Elementary School will be the sole focus of a public forum of the Board of Education on Feb.

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They should have closed it years ago, before they spent all the money on it.
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It's been there since early 1950's. They should of closed the west side or east side schools years ago. They can find other ways to save money! It is BS that they are even thinking of closing it. The janitor and the nurse both make $66,000.00 and they are retiring. That's not a good reason to close. All the classrooms are full there and I am sure you can hire a janitor and nurse for less than $66,000!
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Jan 25, 2013
 
How could a school be full with a little over 100 students? East side has 10 empty rooms?! What the heck is wrong with this school system? Do you realize there are 4 elementary schools in this school district?! That's asinine! St James, yes I can see a private school ( even though they use our buses) Fowler, West Side and East side, makes no sense at all, close Fowler and West Side!
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Jan 25, 2013
 
Yes, they should close Fowler. Fowler residents complain about it closing, however, their taxes have been much lower than Gouv. residents' taxes for years. Also, I would like to mention that the classroom sizes at Fowler have been lower than East and West Side for years, ex. 15-18 students in a class vs. 22-28 students at East and West Side. Hopefully they will close it.
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Yes, they should close Fowler. Fowler residents complain about it closing, however, their taxes have been much lower than Gouv. residents' taxes for years. Also, I would like to mention that the classroom sizes at Fowler have been lower than East and West Side for years, ex. 15-18 students in a class vs. 22-28 students at East and West Side. Hopefully they will close it.
why would you want to over crowd a classroom?? dont you think its better for the students to not be in a class thats over crowded so they are able to get the extra help from the teachers? i think you are all crazy for saying it needs to close. why hurt the kids by making each class fuller? and the classrooms do have at least 20-22 students in them. my children have attended that school since kindergarten..
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No one is saying increase class sizes. You have 10 empty classrooms and ony use 6 at flower, so those 6 get moved to east side.

Of the 100 or so students 60% live in Gouverneur and are bussed out there so why is that?
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flower school is one of the best school around. leave it alone.
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My kids are older now but they all attended Fowler. When my kids were there, it was a race to make sure your child was able to go to Fowler because there were more students than the school would hold. I remember there being parents who were upset and angry because their kids were sent to town. That was quite a few years ago. Fowler doesn't have many rental properties, most of the residents buy their homes, therefore once their kids grow up the number of kids to attend Fowler school will drop. There are new families buying property in Fowler but I am not sure there are enough of them with young children to fill the school. Don't get me wrong, I hate to see the school close, I attended and so did my children but if they are having to bus students from town to fill the school then it really defeats the purpose of the school. The other side of that is the fact that being a smaller school, it offers more individualized attention to students who really need it. Its sad but I think it is a no win situation. If it closes, we lose a valuable asset, if it stays open it is an added expense to the district that may take away from the overall educational value of the school district.
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Yes, they should close Fowler. Fowler residents complain about it closing, however, their taxes have been much lower than Gouv. residents' taxes for years. Also, I would like to mention that the classroom sizes at Fowler have been lower than East and West Side for years, ex. 15-18 students in a class vs. 22-28 students at East and West Side. Hopefully they will close it.
Idiot...gouv residents and fowler pay the same school taxes
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No one is saying increase class sizes. You have 10 empty classrooms and ony use 6 at flower, so those 6 get moved to east side.

Of the 100 or so students 60% live in Gouverneur and are bussed out there so why is that?
i went to fowler school as a child and lived in gouverneur and im now 36, it dont matter if kids are bussed from gouverneur to attend fowler school!! its an overall BETTER school then east or westside!! leave our little school alone!
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Its a funding issue and we don't have the funding anymore, folks. The politics and taxes have driven the jobs out. Without jobs we cannot sustain what we used to enjoy. This means maintaining 3 elementary schools with a dwindling population. Fowler school needs to go. Economically inarguable.
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The school board said it would be economically feasible only if they rent it out and that is their plan. Who is going to rent that? If it is not rented, they will have to pay to heat it and maintain it. Don't see the benefit of closing.
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i went to fowler school as a child and lived in gouverneur and im now 36, IT DON'T MATTER if kids are bussed from gouverneur to attend fowler school!! its an overall BETTER school then east or westside!! leave our little school alone!
Well, I went to the West Side School and the proper grammar is "it doesn't matter". That being said, your grammar is a perfect example as to why it does matter.
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<quoted text>Well, I went to the West Side School and the proper grammar is "it doesn't matter". That being said, your grammar is a perfect example as to why it does matter.
stfu! theres some perfect grammar for ya ;) im not writing a school paper im on topix :p
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The school board said it would be economically feasible only if they rent it out and that is their plan. Who is going to rent that? If it is not rented, they will have to pay to heat it and maintain it. Don't see the benefit of closing.
If they close it they will sell it and be done with it. There are already buyers lining up to make bids on it.
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why would you want to over crowd a classroom?? dont you think its better for the students to not be in a class thats over crowded so they are able to get the extra help from the teachers? i think you are all crazy for saying it needs to close. why hurt the kids by making each class fuller? and the classrooms do have at least 20-22 students in them. my children have attended that school since kindergarten..
You just don't understand. There would be more classrooms at the East and West Side, and the numbers could be distributed evenly instead of 15 in a classroom at Fowler, and 25 in a classroom at the East and West Side. You don't actually think they would take all the Fowler students and distribute them in classrooms that already have 25 do you?
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<quoted text>You just don't understand. There would be more classrooms at the East and West Side, and the numbers could be distributed evenly instead of 15 in a classroom at Fowler, and 25 in a classroom at the East and West Side. You don't actually think they would take all the Fowler students and distribute them in classrooms that already have 25 do you?
WHAT dont u understand, my child goes to fowler & has 23 students in his classroom!! NOT 15
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Idiot...gouv residents and fowler pay the same school taxes
Who pays "The same" school taxes? It's based on property assessment and tax rates. The taxes that I pay are different than my neighbors' and other people that I know. Through the years, Fowler's taxes....town and county have been lower than Gouv. Macomb and other surrounding towns. I am not sure what Fowler's tax rate is now that the mines has been shut down. Also, Fowler does not have to pay village taxes...rightly so. Although, Gouv. village residents have to pay town taxes. I will refrain from calling you a name....name calling tells something about your mentality and your manners.
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WHAT dont u understand, my child goes to fowler & has 23 students in his classroom!! NOT 15
Through the years, classroom size has varied, and overall Fowler has had many years of smaller classes. Of course there are times when the numbers are in the 20's, but there are many times when the numbers are in the teens and LOW 20's. Regardless....classroom size should be evenly distributed throughout the Gouv. school system.
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The school board said it would be economically feasible only if they rent it out and that is their plan. Who is going to rent that? If it is not rented, they will have to pay to heat it and maintain it. Don't see the benefit of closing.
they were looking for a place to make a rec center. Turn the school into one. It's more than big enough

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