“physics is your friend”

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#29775 Dec 5, 2012
Mike your constant harping to emlu is beginning to sound strident and a bit desperate.You sound like the most bitter man on earth.So far you've lost every"debate"you've gotten into.I wanted to debate about crime, you changed it to religion! The religion thing is driving you nuts.(IMO).........

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#29776 Dec 5, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
<quoted text>
There you go again double standard Mike. Remember when you always used the term "we"? I did call you out on it and you have every right to call me out on using it; however, no one ever backed you up on the "we" and I believe I've seen more than one poster agree with Lu. So which is it, you can use the term "we" and that's okey dokey but I can't? Make up your mind and as I said, we'll try to help you with your chronic state of confusion.
I was referring to general groups like scientists, or liberals, and I could back up my claims with stats to prove the general consensus.
Now can you show evidence anyone knows what Emlu's opinion is?
I ask again, what is her opinion of the statement she posted about communism? Please help me in this confusion. So far, you are just making excuses for her and yourself.
How can anyone agree with Emlu, when she never really gives an opinion?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#29777 Dec 5, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
<quoted text>
There you go again double standard Mike. Remember when you always used the term "we"? I did call you out on it and you have every right to call me out on using it; however, no one ever backed you up on the "we" and I believe I've seen more than one poster agree with Lu. So which is it, you can use the term "we" and that's okey dokey but I can't? Make up your mind and as I said, we'll try to help you with your chronic state of confusion.
BTW, I've been reading the posts between you guys on religion not communism. However, if you want my opinion, I'll give it. Communism is the ownership of all property, the rich, the middle and the lower class and is given to everyone on a needs basis. Well buddy, we're headed there. What can you or I give to a millionaire/billionaire? We know what our government wants to do is to tax them more and you and I will also feel the pinch, or I will anyway, and give away the money on a needs basis for people that haven't hit a lick at a black snake. To you, that may seem to be a fair deal; however, we've worked too hard at our house to hand over money to people that never have and never will work because it's handed to them.
If you call taxing the same as ownership, please be clear about that. It is not what the definition of communism is though. By such standards, most every country on the planet is communist.
Taxpayer thinks America is already communist, but I have yet to hear you tell him you disagree with his opinion. I have yet to hear one conservative here disagree with him.
He claims he is not a republican, so why protect him if he is not on your team?
Do you only call out liberals?

“physics is your friend”

Since: May 12

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#29778 Dec 5, 2012
Emlu backs her opinions up with links Mike you ignorant slut.(I doubt you remember that"line"from Saturday Night Live).

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#29779 Dec 5, 2012
waco1909 wrote:
Mike your constant harping to emlu is beginning to sound strident and a bit desperate.You sound like the most bitter man on earth.So far you've lost every"debate"you've gotten into.I wanted to debate about crime, you changed it to religion! The religion thing is driving you nuts.(IMO).........
I tried to ask you why the crime rate was low, and you refused to give an opinion, so I did. Lack of blind faith. No one has rebutted my claim so far. So who is diverting? Seems it is you. Seems no one wants to debate it, everyone just wants to whine that I complain no one wants to debate. It is a vicious circle.
Now are you ready to debate? If so, I would love to hear why you think the crime rate is low?

Since: Sep 12

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#29780 Dec 5, 2012
waco1909 wrote:
Mike your constant harping to emlu is beginning to sound strident and a bit desperate.You sound like the most bitter man on earth.So far you've lost every"debate"you've gotten into.I wanted to debate about crime, you changed it to religion! The religion thing is driving you nuts.(IMO).........
It's OK waco, before the election, I was told to post links to support my opinion, now it's give an opinion on my links. So, I have decided to post links that support my opinion. I find it less repetitive.

“physics is your friend”

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#29781 Dec 5, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I tried to ask you why the crime rate was low, and you refused to give an opinion, so I did. Lack of blind faith. No one has rebutted my claim so far. So who is diverting? Seems it is you. Seems no one wants to debate it, everyone just wants to whine that I complain no one wants to debate. It is a vicious circle.
Now are you ready to debate? If so, I would love to hear why you think the crime rate is low?
I'm rebutting your ignorant claim! I SAID it was because DEMARK doesn't put all their citizens in jail for BULLSHIT drug offenses! Got it?

“Anasasis Xenophontis.”

Since: Dec 08

over there.

#29782 Dec 5, 2012
Number one...bacon doesn't speak for me..
Number too, bacon, quit acting like me being against religion is the same as being against God. Reliigion is an institution of man. I trust no man...
Do I nelieve in fairy heaven with eagle winged white people floating around...nope. I believe he is to omniscient to understand.
Government that was ruled by religion and passed laws based on religion also killed Jesus.
Another thing to think about, science invented the plane and modern medicine...religion flew those planes in two buildings and blew up an abortion clinic.
I did not say God let this happen or he did it...I said religion did it, man speaking for god did it. Religion has good, with a ten million mile trail of blood and evil in its wake.

Since: Dec 11

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#29783 Dec 5, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>If you call taxing the same as ownership, please be clear about that. It is not what the definition of communism is though. By such standards, most every country on the planet is communist.
Taxpayer thinks America is already communist, but I have yet to hear you tell him you disagree with his opinion. I have yet to hear one conservative here disagree with him.
He claims he is not a republican, so why protect him if he is not on your team?
Do you only call out liberals?
I hopped over here and just about missed your post because your picture is gone?? First, we're not talking about every other country on the planet, we're discussing the U.S. Secondly, if I must be honest, I don't always reply to Taxpayer because I don't understand his posts. Doesn't mean he's wrong, just means I don't understand and he got a little testy with me one time about gun safety and I decided to leave him alone. As for his party affiliation, I haven't figured that out either, so your guess is as good as mine. Mike, this is how I feel and if you feel the need, you can name it a new "ism". Ownership of property is not just my yard, car or home, it's the money I worked for that I own. It's mine, therefore IMO, it's my property. When I'm told by the government that a group of people make too much money, or have acquired too much money (however you want to word it) and they need to tax them a "little more" to help our country through no fault of the citizens that didn't make the tax laws to begin with, spent our money like drunken sailors and now owe other countries and are having to print money, why does anyone need to "pay a little more"? If the new "paying a little more" doesn't work; what's next, pay a little more, pay a little more etc. Let's be real here, there's the haves, the kind of haves and the have nots. I think all classes should pay a flat tax and be done with it. Back to the communism thing, when people work hard and manage to make a decent life for themselves, only in the U.S. are you punished for it through taxation. This is so all the perks and programs of the politicians and people that own them get pushed through. If these politicians and their buddies that bought them like these programs, tax the heck out of them and leave my money alone. While we're at it, when a government can force you to buy a commodity of ANY KIND i.e. healthcare or punish you again through penalities or taxation, what's next? When did our government get bold enough to tell us how to spend our money that we made and paid taxes on? That's not called freedom, it's called taking from one class and giving to another, so everybody will be equal. Well quess what, everybody's not equal financially and that's not my problem. Where will government intervention stop in our lives?

Since: Dec 11

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#29784 Dec 5, 2012
sevenSecrets wrote:
Number one...bacon doesn't speak for me..
Number too, bacon, quit acting like me being against religion is the same as being against God. Reliigion is an institution of man. I trust no man...
Do I nelieve in fairy heaven with eagle winged white people floating around...nope. I believe he is to omniscient to understand.
Government that was ruled by religion and passed laws based on religion also killed Jesus.
Another thing to think about, science invented the plane and modern medicine...religion flew those planes in two buildings and blew up an abortion clinic.
I did not say God let this happen or he did it...I said religion did it, man speaking for god did it. Religion has good, with a ten million mile trail of blood and evil in its wake.
Number three, if Bacon spoke for you, you would know how to spell the number, "two".

“physics is your friend”

Since: May 12

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#29785 Dec 5, 2012
sevenSecrets wrote:
Number one...bacon doesn't speak for me..
Number too, bacon, quit acting like me being against religion is the same as being against God. Reliigion is an institution of man. I trust no man...
Do I nelieve in fairy heaven with eagle winged white people floating around...nope. I believe he is to omniscient to understand.
Government that was ruled by religion and passed laws based on religion also killed Jesus.
Another thing to think about, science invented the plane and modern medicine...religion flew those planes in two buildings and blew up an abortion clinic.
I did not say God let this happen or he did it...I said religion did it, man speaking for god did it. Religion has good, with a ten million mile trail of blood and evil in its wake.
Religion flew those planes into the WTC? Thought it was a bunch of fanatical Saudis...People always gonna find a reason to justify their evil....

“physics is your friend”

Since: May 12

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#29786 Dec 5, 2012
Hitler wound up getting fifty million killed...was that also the fault of"religion?
TSF

Kenly, NC

#29787 Dec 5, 2012
I favor a flat tax on all income with no loopholes, no subsidies, no incentives,no sweetheart deals , no kickbacks or bid rigging, no exemptions, no exclusions.
emlu wrote:
<quoted text>How do you feel about a "flat tax"?
Snore

Gastonia, NC

#29788 Dec 5, 2012
waco1909 wrote:
Emlu backs her opinions up with links Mike you ignorant slut.(I doubt you remember that"line"from Saturday Night Live).
I thought it was just me and my stupidity. Mike wants Emlu to back up her posts with a link, but yet he thinks it's too tedious at times for MIKE to post a link with his opinion. It's gone way beyond the scope of pointing his double standard BS anymore.

Since: Dec 11

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#29789 Dec 5, 2012
Snore wrote:
<quoted text>I thought it was just me and my stupidity. Mike wants Emlu to back up her posts with a link, but yet he thinks it's too tedious at times for MIKE to post a link with his opinion. It's gone way beyond the scope of pointing his double standard BS anymore.
Gave you the "agree" and would have "doubled" it, if I could have.

Since: Sep 12

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#29790 Dec 5, 2012
TSF wrote:
I favor a flat tax on all income with no loopholes, no subsidies, no incentives,no sweetheart deals , no kickbacks or bid rigging, no exemptions, no exclusions.
<quoted text>
Thank you, I believe that's called "true" flat tax. You make more you pay more, you make less you pay less. The % would be the same.
TSF

Kenly, NC

#29791 Dec 5, 2012
Possibly typical but not all inclusive. Also , I do not believe that religion and science are in conflict in any way. For instance, I see overwhelming evidence of evolution and do not believe that the theory conflicts with scriptures. If God is all powerful, he can use any process he choses to develop species.
The most misguided human individuals in my estimation, are the ones who claim to know the mind of God and to be in possession of the "only true religion". These folks do more damage to their beliefs than they can ever know. On the opposite end of that extreme are those who deny the possibility of existence of God, or anything else for that matter, just because they have not yet seen proof. The first lesson a scientist has to learn is to keep an open mind and to the extent humanly possible, to exclude personal bias in evaluating evidence/results/data/calculat ions/observations.
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>This quote typifies the lack of science of the religious.
Snore

Gastonia, NC

#29792 Dec 5, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
<quoted text>
I hopped over here and just about missed your post because your picture is gone?? First, we're not talking about every other country on the planet, we're discussing the U.S. Secondly, if I must be honest, I don't always reply to Taxpayer because I don't understand his posts. Doesn't mean he's wrong, just means I don't understand and he got a little testy with me one time about gun safety and I decided to leave him alone. As for his party affiliation, I haven't figured that out either, so your guess is as good as mine. Mike, this is how I feel and if you feel the need, you can name it a new "ism". Ownership of property is not just my yard, car or home, it's the money I worked for that I own. It's mine, therefore IMO, it's my property. When I'm told by the government that a group of people make too much money, or have acquired too much money (however you want to word it) and they need to tax them a "little more" to help our country through no fault of the citizens that didn't make the tax laws to begin with, spent our money like drunken sailors and now owe other countries and are having to print money, why does anyone need to "pay a little more"? If the new "paying a little more" doesn't work; what's next, pay a little more, pay a little more etc. Let's be real here, there's the haves, the kind of haves and the have nots. I think all classes should pay a flat tax and be done with it. Back to the communism thing, when people work hard and manage to make a decent life for themselves, only in the U.S. are you punished for it through taxation. This is so all the perks and programs of the politicians and people that own them get pushed through. If these politicians and their buddies that bought them like these programs, tax the heck out of them and leave my money alone. While we're at it, when a government can force you to buy a commodity of ANY KIND i.e. healthcare or punish you again through penalities or taxation, what's next? When did our government get bold enough to tell us how to spend our money that we made and paid taxes on? That's not called freedom, it's called taking from one class and giving to another, so everybody will be equal. Well quess what, everybody's not equal financially and that's not my problem. Where will government intervention stop in our lives?
Guess what Bacon? Your pic was MIA too, but only for a minute or two. I thought my pc was having a technical breakdown, but Mike's pic is MIA as well. I think "we"--oops "I'm" in for a big surprise. Mike's changing his pic, imo. Look out "folks", damn it, look out me.
TSF

Kenly, NC

#29793 Dec 5, 2012
I am not sure about the amount of scientific knowledge St Thomas Aquinas had, but his statement reveals that he clearly understood why there is a difference between believers and non believers. The church opposition to science has been brutal in the past to protect dogma, which is much different than religion. Much later, Copernicus was deemed a heretic and a fool because he had the audacity to claim that the Earth was not the center of the Universe and that the Earth was revolving around the Sun. Galileo was convicted as a heretic as a result of confirming the ideas of Corponicus and was only post humanously pardoned by the Catholic Church in 1996. Church adherance to dogma has created the carnage, conflict, injustice, horrors,ignorance , etc. That dogma is not religion.

Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Of course in the dark ages, no one had scientific explanations for most natural events, so I can see why Tom thought this.
Any statement pre-Darwin, must be looked at in this perspective.
And even after that, one should look at the known science of the day for full perspective.
BTW, all founding fathers were pre-Darwin.
Snore

Gastonia, NC

#29794 Dec 5, 2012
TSF wrote:
I am not sure about the amount of scientific knowledge St Thomas Aquinas had, but his statement reveals that he clearly understood why there is a difference between believers and non believers. The church opposition to science has been brutal in the past to protect dogma, which is much different than religion. Much later, Copernicus was deemed a heretic and a fool because he had the audacity to claim that the Earth was not the center of the Universe and that the Earth was revolving around the Sun. Galileo was convicted as a heretic as a result of confirming the ideas of Corponicus and was only post humanously pardoned by the Catholic Church in 1996. Church adherance to dogma has created the carnage, conflict, injustice, horrors,ignorance , etc. That dogma is not religion.
<quoted text>
Imo, it's pointless to "debate" with Mike on any front, ESPECIALLY religion. You're wasting your valuable energy on that subject matter. I wonder what the "course" of conversation is during CHRISTMAS feasts are like? I believe Mike is simply addicted to his prejudices period.

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