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Supporters, foes of collective-bargaining bill hash it out | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 22 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Mar 3, 2011, titled Supporters, foes of collective-bargaining bill hash it out | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Mark Hicks, of Glouster, Ohio, shows his support for Senate Bill 5 outside the Statehouse as people file inside for the Senate's vote on the legislation.

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rick

Montgomery, AL

#1 Mar 3, 2011
This is an excellent way for Ohio to start saving my tax money! Keep pushing this bill!!!
FED UP

Westerville, OH

#2 Mar 3, 2011
It's obvious that in Ohio Communism is alive and flourishing. This was a connived effort from the beginning to get the Big Business Agenda through and dismiss the will of the majority of the working class in this State. When Senators can be "replaced" by others who are for a Bill, it is communism.
All the Republicans who voted in favor of SB5 can kiss their political careers goodbye. It will be Neihaus, JONES, Bacon and of course, King John, who will be jobless when the PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO SPEAK at election time.
Shameful day in Ohio. These people are an embarrassment.
Cartman

Powell, OH

#3 Mar 3, 2011
The Columbus Fox-Koch Dispatch is just as fair and balanced as its idol the original Faux news. 8500 opponents and 200 supporters results in an article with comments from 2 opponents and 5 supporters. This newspaper is an embarrassment to the city it is located in.

The most pathetic part is the fact that those speaking in support of the bill earned the money they did in each of their occupations they stated as a result of collective bargaining. Two options: they are major hypocrites or dumber than a box or rocks. The only exception was the real estate person who didn't need to work yesterday since Lehman Brothers has put the housing market in such a state she can only sell foreclosed properties.
resident

Wilmington, OH

#4 Mar 3, 2011
The republicans has defeated there selfs.
BAD BOY

Aripeka, FL

#5 Mar 3, 2011
Being a retired truck driver, and worked mostly when Jimmy Hoffa was
president of union. In the years that he LENT the pension fund to the

MAFIA to build Vegas. And could not prove I was a union member unless
I could show ALL my pay stubs for the 22 years I worked in union in
Chicago---- I could not get a pension!!!!!!! Tell me any one that ever kept
22 years of pay stubs !!!!! Don't know what happened to Jimmy, but I
wished at the time & still do, That i could have been part of his DEMISE
Now is not the State doing the same to union workers ?? Also will bet

that ALL state ' big wigs ' vote them selves a BIG raise when this passes.

THAT WILL HAPPEN WITHIN 100 DAYS------- WATCH & SEE !!!!!!!1
Right On

Westerville, OH

#6 Mar 3, 2011
If private industry had a monopoly on goods and services like public employees do with police, fire, teaching etc. the government would file an antitrust suit against the private industry. These folks should not have collective bargaining rights when they are the only game and taxpayer funded. If they don't like it they should go work in the private industry where they don't have the job security provided by the government.
confused

United States

#7 Mar 3, 2011
Go corparate America take over!!!!!That will happen!!!Give big buisseness more tax breaks!!!!
Vuvuzela Jabulani

Columbus, OH

#8 Mar 3, 2011
A convenient excuse. SB5 is just that. A way to blame the unions for the woes of the state. Nothing more.
North Campus

Columbus, OH

#9 Mar 3, 2011
Give me merit pay!
rick

Montgomery, AL

#10 Mar 3, 2011
Right On wrote:
If private industry had a monopoly on goods and services like public employees do with police, fire, teaching etc. the government would file an antitrust suit against the private industry. These folks should not have collective bargaining rights when they are the only game and taxpayer funded. If they don't like it they should go work in the private industry where they don't have the job security provided by the government.
Perfectly put right on! I couldnt agree with you more. Listen...if I dont like where I work, I either find a new job or suck it up. Of course, the smartest thing to do is find a new job. I have done this a couple of times. You know what? IT WORKS OUT!! If I decided to strike against my employer, you know what? I WOULD BE FIRED!!! Just the way it is people. Get used to it!!
Antagonist

Newark, OH

#11 Mar 3, 2011
FED UP wrote:
It's obvious that in Ohio Communism is alive and flourishing. This was a connived effort from the beginning to get the Big Business Agenda through and dismiss the will of the majority of the working class in this State. When Senators can be "replaced" by others who are for a Bill, it is communism.
All the Republicans who voted in favor of SB5 can kiss their political careers goodbye. It will be Neihaus, JONES, Bacon and of course, King John, who will be jobless when the PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO SPEAK at election time.
Shameful day in Ohio. These people are an embarrassment.
Collective Bargaining is, in itself, a concept born through communist thought.
You have your shoes on the wrong feet.
Bill

Mount Vernon, OH

#13 Mar 3, 2011
Just wait until the state budget is presented in two weeks - the whining and howling have only begun! The cuts that are going to be necessary to clean up the financial disaster that Strickland and his Democratic cronies have left behind will be staggering.

At the heart of it, we the citizens are to blame for letting politicians of all parties turn a blind eye to waste, fraud, and abuse at all levels of government. We must acknowledge our current reality, remember how we got here, hold our elected representatives to a new standard - but then bond together to help restore this great state. It will not be easy, but it will be worth it!

"You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the first step into a thousand years of darkness. If we fail, at least let our children and our children's children say of us we justified our brief moment here. We did all that could be done." President Ronald Reagan
SHW

Middlesboro, KY

#14 Mar 3, 2011
CHANGE! YAY!.....oh, it's not in my favor.....ATROCITY! GREED!
Cartman

Powell, OH

#15 Mar 3, 2011
Right On wrote:
If private industry had a monopoly on goods and services like public employees do with police, fire, teaching etc. the government would file an antitrust suit against the private industry. These folks should not have collective bargaining rights when they are the only game and taxpayer funded. If they don't like it they should go work in the private industry where they don't have the job security provided by the government.
In your world "private industry" doesn't have a monopoly? Libya takes a step towards democracy and gas prices shoot up half a buck AT ALL FILLING STATIONS though the US gets none of its oil from there. Milk goes up a nickle a gallon at the same time to pay for the price increase. Ever heard of "Citizens United" decision? The most powerful monopoly to ever exist in a supposed "democratic" nation exists today in the United States and it is enabled by hoards of politicians and judges paid for by those corporations who control every aspect of your life whether you recognize it or not.
JMB

Fostoria, OH

#16 Mar 3, 2011
"200 on hand?" According to witnesses who could actually count, there were exactly 41 pro-bill people there.
Cartman

Powell, OH

#17 Mar 3, 2011
Bill wrote:
Just wait until the state budget is presented in two weeks - the whining and howling have only begun! The cuts that are going to be necessary to clean up the financial disaster that Strickland and his Democratic cronies have left behind will be staggering.
At the heart of it, we the citizens are to blame for letting politicians of all parties turn a blind eye to waste, fraud, and abuse at all levels of government. We must acknowledge our current reality, remember how we got here, hold our elected representatives to a new standard - but then bond together to help restore this great state. It will not be easy, but it will be worth it!
"You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the first step into a thousand years of darkness. If we fail, at least let our children and our children's children say of us we justified our brief moment here. We did all that could be done." President Ronald Reagan
The budget is totally controlled by the legislature which is totally controlled by the Republican party. It is convenient to push the blame to others but realize that all laws and budgets are enacted by the legislature- though the the GnOP now in control of everything it is one in the same across the board. Ronald Reagan is the one who started this debacle with tax cuts for the wealthy and even his architect of the disaster admits it was a terrible mistake- Google David Stockman.
rick

Montgomery, AL

#18 Mar 3, 2011
Bill wrote:
Just wait until the state budget is presented in two weeks - the whining and howling have only begun! The cuts that are going to be necessary to clean up the financial disaster that Strickland and his Democratic cronies have left behind will be staggering.
At the heart of it, we the citizens are to blame for letting politicians of all parties turn a blind eye to waste, fraud, and abuse at all levels of government. We must acknowledge our current reality, remember how we got here, hold our elected representatives to a new standard - but then bond together to help restore this great state. It will not be easy, but it will be worth it!
"You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the first step into a thousand years of darkness. If we fail, at least let our children and our children's children say of us we justified our brief moment here. We did all that could be done."
President Ronald Reagan
Well put Bill! God bless America!!! Gotta love the gipper!
JMB

Fostoria, OH

#19 Mar 3, 2011
Right On wrote:
If private industry had a monopoly on goods and services like public employees do with police, fire, teaching etc. the government would file an antitrust suit against the private industry. These folks should not have collective bargaining rights when they are the only game and taxpayer funded. If they don't like it they should go work in the private industry where they don't have the job security provided by the government.
And if you don't like that someone else gets job security when you don't, you should join the other taxpayers who work in the public sector who teach your kids, save you from disasters, and protect you. If you're qualified or educated enough, that is.

Like it or not, your government still has to keep running, good economy or not. The price for these services isn't going to drastically drop during these times any more than the price of groceries, gasoline, or a visit to the doctor. The services of public workers aren't suddenly worth less because you don't want to pay for them.
Tony

Chillicothe, OH

#20 Mar 3, 2011
FED UP wrote:
When Senators can be "replaced" by others who are for a Bill, it is communism.
Did you speak up when the democrats controlled the senate and had the same rules? Or is it only bad if the results don't go your way?
Tony

Chillicothe, OH

#21 Mar 3, 2011
Right On wrote:
These folks should not have collective bargaining rights when they are the only game and taxpayer funded.
Not only that, the people the unions are negotiating with get similar raises to what the union ends up getting. Kinda doesn't make them want to fight too hard, does it?

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