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Informed Opinion

Naples, FL

#5697 Apr 3, 2013
Bored wrote:
What the Libtards don't tell us.

"According to a new IRS regulation released, they assume the average family will pay a minimum of $20,000 for their health care plans.

Under Obamacare, Americans will be required to buy health insurance or pay a penalty to the IRS.

The IRS's assumption that the cheapest plan for a family will cost $20,000 per year is found in examples the IRS gives to help people understand how to calculate the penalty they will need to pay the government if they do not buy a mandated health plan.

The examples point to families of four and families of five, both of which the IRS expects in its assumptions to pay a minimum of $20,000 per year for a bronze plan.

“The annual national average bronze plan premium for a family of 5 (2 adults, 3 children) is $20,000,” the regulation says.

Bronze will be the lowest tier health-insurance plan available under Obamacare--after Silver, Gold, and Platinum. Under the law, the penalty for not buying health insurance is supposed to be capped at either the annual average Bronze premium, 2.5 percent of taxable income, or $2,085.00 per family in 2016.

In the new final rules published Wednesday, IRS set in law the rules for implementing the penalty Americans must pay if they fail to obey Obamacare's mandate to buy insurance.

To help illustrate these rules, the IRS presented examples of different situations families might find themselves in.

In the examples, the IRS assumes that families of five who are uninsured would need to pay an average of $20,000 per year to purchase a Bronze plan in 2016.

Using the conditions laid out in the regulations, the IRS calculates that a family earning $120,000 per year that did not buy insurance would need to pay a "penalty" (a word the IRS still uses despite the Supreme Court ruling that it is in fact a "tax") of $2,400 in 2016.

I don’t know about you, but I think the penalty is looking like more and more of an option every day.$20,000 per year, I don’t think my family of four can handle that kind of health insurance."
Don't worry, me and my family will continue paying for your medical care.

We gave up long ago and Right Wingers ever paying their own way - like all experienced welfare cheats - they collect their government checks and benefits while attacking anyone who asks them to contribute to the cause.

You can always spot a Right Winger at a Pot Luck - they're the ones who arrive with nothing to contribute, leave stuffed and carrying leftovers home, and bitching that Millie only brought 5 Homemade Pumpkin Pies.

Bored

Commerce, GA

#5698 Apr 3, 2013
"According to a new IRS regulation released, they assume the average family will pay a minimum of $20,000 for their health care plans.

Under Obamacare, Americans will be required to buy health insurance or pay a penalty to the IRS.

The IRS's assumption that the cheapest plan for a family will cost $20,000 per year is found in examples the IRS gives to help people understand how to calculate the penalty they will need to pay the government if they do not buy a mandated health plan.

The examples point to families of four and families of five, both of which the IRS expects in its assumptions to pay a minimum of $20,000 per year for a bronze plan.

The annual national average bronze plan premium for a family of 5 (2 adults, 3 children) is $20,000, the regulation says.

Bronze will be the lowest tier health-insurance plan available under Obamacare--after Silver, Gold, and Platinum. Under the law, the penalty for not buying health insurance is supposed to be capped at either the annual average Bronze premium, 2.5 percent of taxable income, or $2,085.00 per family in 2016.

In the new final rules published Wednesday, IRS set in law the rules for implementing the penalty Americans must pay if they fail to obey Obamacare's mandate to buy insurance.

To help illustrate these rules, the IRS presented examples of different situations families might find themselves in.

In the examples, the IRS assumes that families of five who are uninsured would need to pay an average of $20,000 per year to purchase a Bronze plan in 2016.

Using the conditions laid out in the regulations, the IRS calculates that a family earning $120,000 per year that did not buy insurance would need to pay a "penalty" (a word the IRS still uses despite the Supreme Court ruling that it is in fact a "tax") of $2,400 in 2016.

I dont know about you, but I think the penalty is looking like more and more of an option every day.$20,000 per year, I dont think my family of four can handle that kind of health insurance."
Bored

Commerce, GA

#5699 Apr 3, 2013
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Chatsworth, GA

#5700 Apr 3, 2013
Bored wrote:
"According to a new IRS regulation released, they assume the average family will pay a minimum of $20,000 for their health care plans.
Under Obamacare, Americans will be required to buy health insurance or pay a penalty to the IRS.
The IRS's assumption that the cheapest plan for a family will cost $20,000 per year is found in examples the IRS gives to help people understand how to calculate the penalty they will need to pay the government if they do not buy a mandated health plan.
The examples point to families of four and families of five, both of which the IRS expects in its assumptions to pay a minimum of $20,000 per year for a bronze plan.
The annual national average bronze plan premium for a family of 5 (2 adults, 3 children) is $20,000, the regulation says.
Bronze will be the lowest tier health-insurance plan available under Obamacare--after Silver, Gold, and Platinum. Under the law, the penalty for not buying health insurance is supposed to be capped at either the annual average Bronze premium, 2.5 percent of taxable income, or $2,085.00 per family in 2016.
In the new final rules published Wednesday, IRS set in law the rules for implementing the penalty Americans must pay if they fail to obey Obamacare's mandate to buy insurance.
To help illustrate these rules, the IRS presented examples of different situations families might find themselves in.
In the examples, the IRS assumes that families of five who are uninsured would need to pay an average of $20,000 per year to purchase a Bronze plan in 2016.
Using the conditions laid out in the regulations, the IRS calculates that a family earning $120,000 per year that did not buy insurance would need to pay a "penalty" (a word the IRS still uses despite the Supreme Court ruling that it is in fact a "tax") of $2,400 in 2016.
I dont know about you, but I think the penalty is looking like more and more of an option every day.$20,000 per year, I dont think my family of four can handle that kind of health insurance."
I think your comment is full of crap like the rest of you righties.
Informed Opinion

Naples, FL

#5701 Apr 3, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
<quoted text>This one's easy - top of the list - Obamacare. If you can't see that nationalized healthcare is the goal, you aren't paying attention. In 2003, Obama told a meeting of the AFL-CIO: "I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program....that's what I'd like to see."

"Name calling is entertaining. facts are persuasive." - that's why I no longer read any post of yours that is more that a very few sentences. All you have is name calling, no facts. I have better things to do than waste time on the mind numbed rantings of those who are thoroughly brainwashed by their hate.
In fact, most aspects of "Obama Care" were supported and were pushed by real "Conservative" Republicans long ago. They believed in personal responsibility, and were tired of freeloaders and deadbeats making the rest of us pay so that could steal free medical care at our expense.

Let's see who all these "Socialists" who supported Obama Care:

George Bush, Sr.,
Mitt Romney
Richard Nixon
Newt Gengrich

"Real" Conservatives believe on making people pay their own way when they can.
Bored

Commerce, GA

#5702 Apr 3, 2013
Doo wrote:
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I think your comment is full of crap like the rest of you righties.
You're the one with s**t for a name. Nice name, fully explains you.
Bored

Commerce, GA

#5703 Apr 3, 2013
What Type of Plans Are Available on the ObamaCare Exchange?: Bronze, Silver, Gold and Platinum

There are three tiers of plans you or your employer can purchase on the exchange they range from lower quality, but more affordable "Bronze plans", to "Silver plans" to a more expensive plan with better coverage called a "Gold plan". There is also a "Platinum plan" which is the highest quality and cost plan. Lower premium plans will have higher deductibles.


The bronze plan is for the poor, will only cost them 2.5% of their income.

The Platinum plan is for the rich, will only cost them 2.5% of their income.

The federal government will pick up the tab for all other costs. Who is the Federal government?


Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#5704 Apr 3, 2013
Doo wrote:
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I think your comment is full of crap like the rest of you righties.
Wow, what a persuasive rejoinder - not.
Doo

Chatsworth, GA

#5705 Apr 3, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
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Wow, what a persuasive rejoinder - not.
How doo you defend a pack of lies?
Bored

Commerce, GA

#5706 Apr 3, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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In fact, most aspects of "Obama Care" were supported and were pushed by real "Conservative" Republicans long ago. They believed in personal responsibility, and were tired of freeloaders and deadbeats making the rest of us pay so that could steal free medical care at our expense.
Let's see who all these "Socialists" who supported Obama Care:
George Bush, Sr.,
Mitt Romney
Richard Nixon
Newt Gengrich
"Real" Conservatives believe on making people pay their own way when they can.
Now that you know how much it's going to cost you, you are trying to push obamacare off on the republicans.
Nice try, but it won't wash like all your other posts.
We've got you figured out, you're the strawman who never got to see the wizard.
The ones to blame are::

Obama=non-citizen.
Pelosi=without a brain also.
Reid=we're going to push this through even though we don't know what's in it.

All other Dems= follow the leaders off the cliff because we are exempt.
Bored

Commerce, GA

#5707 Apr 3, 2013
Doo wrote:
<quoted text>
How doo you defend a pack of lies?
By educating yourself, although in your case that may be impossible.
Google is your friend, try using it.

ObamaCare Cost for the Average Family

No one truly knows what ObamaCare will cost. Common estimates for an average family of 4 range from around $7,000 a year to $30,000 a year depending on factors such as age, health status and region.

http://obamacarefacts.com/costof-obamacare.ph...

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#5708 Apr 3, 2013
Doo wrote:
<quoted text>
How doo you defend a pack of lies?
That's what is so lovely about being "right", I only have to give the facts to support my position. I don't have to resort to lies about motivations to smear good, decent people who want to try to keep this country from tanking.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#5709 Apr 3, 2013
Doo wrote:
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Except it just a pack of lies.
What part of it is not true?

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#5710 Apr 3, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
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Look, take a second after you cash that Socialist Security check and go to the Socialist public library, on the Socialist public roads, and speak Socialist publicly paid librarian, and ask her to use one of those computers provided by Socialist public funds,
then,
open any search engine,
and
type the words " Bush and Pat Robertson and Falwell".
You only get 1,647,000 "hits" in less than .8 seconds, each identifying sources containing documents facts regarding the subjects of your search.
Or remain a typical Right Winger, so aware the facts are contrary to those believes you insecurely hold, that you can't risk exposure to reality.
Every time I read a Right Winger's refusal to acknowledge and accept obvious and well documented facts, I feel a kinship with 'Ol Jack who in frustration shouted:
... You can't handle the truth!
Jack Nicholson "A Few Good Men"
( A courtroom scene that in reality would never occur).
Appreciate the shorter post.
Now! If it's so easy to find YOUR links, just post the links. See! Everyone wins! Please post YOUR PARTICULAR LINKS.
Doo

Chatsworth, GA

#5711 Apr 3, 2013
Bored wrote:
<quoted text>
By educating yourself, although in your case that may be impossible.
Google is your friend, try using it.
ObamaCare Cost for the Average Family
No one truly knows what ObamaCare will cost. Common estimates for an average family of 4 range from around $7,000 a year to $30,000 a year depending on factors such as age, health status and region.
http://obamacarefacts.com/costof-obamacare.ph...
Let me give you a clue if an article is correct or not. When someone calls "Obamacare" that automatically means some right wingers article. Why? Because there is not an "Obamacare". The correct name is "The Affordable Health Care Act" and not only did Obama sign it but Congress approved it all legal and fair and square like. "Obamacare" right wing slang to make it sound worse than it really is. If you are trying to be factual, then start somewhere besides "Obamacare" that don't exist.
Doo

Chatsworth, GA

#5712 Apr 3, 2013
Hey...all you righties...try typing in "The Affordable Health Care Law" instead of going to some right wing "Obamacare" thing. You may find that more facutal.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#5713 Apr 3, 2013
Doo wrote:
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I think your comment is full of crap like the rest of you righties.
Wow! Now THAT reply is PROFOUND!

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#5714 Apr 3, 2013
Doo wrote:
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Let me give you a clue if an article is correct or not. When someone calls "Obamacare" that automatically means some right wingers article. Why? Because there is not an "Obamacare". The correct name is "The Affordable Health Care Act" and not only did Obama sign it but Congress approved it all legal and fair and square like. "Obamacare" right wing slang to make it sound worse than it really is. If you are trying to be factual, then start somewhere besides "Obamacare" that don't exist.
Obama stated himself that he LIKES it to be called Obamacare.( You know what a narcissist he is!)

This bill was FORCED through. NO ONE had read it in its entirety.(Pelosi was proof of THAT.) Do you know how many pages is in that bill? That was done BY DESIGN.

It sounded like a good idea at first to a lot of uninformed people, but as time moved on, a MAJORITY of the PEOPLE didn't want it, but guess what???? The bill was signed ANYWAY.

Wonder WHY the bill wasn't published in advance of the signing( AS PROMISED) so that everyone would KNOW what was about to happen to them????(Again, that was by design.)

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#5715 Apr 3, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
In fact, most aspects of "Obama Care" were supported and were pushed by real "Conservative" Republicans long ago. They believed in personal responsibility, and were tired of freeloaders and deadbeats making the rest of us pay so that could steal free medical care at our expense.
Let's see who all these "Socialists" who supported Obama Care:
George Bush, Sr.,
Mitt Romney
Richard Nixon
Newt Gengrich
"Real" Conservatives believe on making people pay their own way when they can.
The operative word in your post is ASPECTS. You were hoping that would slip by, huh?
Healthcare DOES need reform. No one has argued with that. You have NO IDEA about what Obamacare is going to end up costing YOU. The GREAT thing is, YOU are going to find out. You don't have to believe what you are reading. YOU (and the rest of us) are going to live it. I already am. My costs are UP. It's all happening in a push toward a single payer system.
Doo

Chatsworth, GA

#5716 Apr 3, 2013
Synergy wrote:
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Obama stated himself that he LIKES it to be called Obamacare.( You know what a narcissist he is!)
This bill was FORCED through. NO ONE had read it in its entirety.(Pelosi was proof of THAT.) Do you know how many pages is in that bill? That was done BY DESIGN.
It sounded like a good idea at first to a lot of uninformed people, but as time moved on, a MAJORITY of the PEOPLE didn't want it, but guess what???? The bill was signed ANYWAY.
Wonder WHY the bill wasn't published in advance of the signing( AS PROMISED) so that everyone would KNOW what was about to happen to them????(Again, that was by design.)
You actually believe that a bill got signed and passed into "LAW" and no one actually read it? You are sooo funny it is potheitcal. You listen to all the right wingers and believe all the lies and distortions they feed you. You are a big fan of Fox...I can tell. May want to try some real news channels and be enlighted by facts that are not twisted and distorted by the right wing. You are totally unbelievable and funny to me. The Sky is Falling!.....The real truth is Obama was re-elected by the majority of Americans that actually likes and appreciates what he has done for them. If he could run a third term...he would win again. Just the facts.

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