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Supply Meets Demand On Benghazi

…. the reporter, Lara Logan, has long expressed righteous anger that the killing of Ambassador Chris Stevens hasn’t been avenged. So Logan had a personal agenda that nicely merged with her personal interest in getting a big “scoop”.

…. Lara Logan brought the supply and Lindsey Graham brought the demand and a bill of goods were sold. Graham and other Republicans, of course, can now simply argue the dubious report “raised questions,” and that’s all they need for more wallowing in the “story.” An apology from their supplier isn’t enough.

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From Business Week:

Here’s The Real Reason People Hate Their Individual Market Health Insurance

Unlike people on Medicare, Medicaid and employer-based insurance, people who buy coverage in the individual market know exactly how much they’re paying for it. A plan that you would only rate “fair” when you have to pay $5,000 for it might merit an “excellent” if its apparent cost to you were only $1,000. Almost all of us should be dissatisfied with our health plans, because the American health care system involves paying twice as much as people in other rich countries do to achieve similar health outcomes.

People love their employer-provided coverage because they have no idea how much it’s costing them. One of the reasons I like the disruptions created by Obamacare, and wish there were more of them, is that many of them involve exposing the true cost of American health care to consumers.

The law requires employers to start reporting the cost of employer-sponsored insurance on W-2 forms, so people know how much of their compensation is eaten up by health insurance. Successful health reform should bring that transparency to other parts of the market. That will make the public angry — not because they’re being made worse off, but because they’re finally realizing how bad they’ve had it all along.
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One of the lies listed by Dan the Man surely is no lie. I work two parttime jobs. More and more employers, especially big retailers, keep you parttime forever.That way they can avoid paying benefits like a health plan. With so many unemployed or like me parttime they can get away with that.The laws, and that includes Obamacare, must be revised.

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The Obamacare sabotage campaign

From the moment the bill was introduced, Republican leaders in both houses of Congress announced their intention to kill it. Republican troops pressed this cause all the way to the Supreme Court — which upheld the law, but weakened a key part of it by giving states the option to reject an expansion of Medicaid. The GOP faithful then kept up their crusade past the president’s reelection, in a pattern of “massive resistance” not seen since the Southern states’ defiance of the Supreme Court’s Brown v. Board of Education decision in 1954.

The opposition was strategic from the start: Derail President Barack Obama’s biggest ambition, and derail Obama himself. Party leaders enforced discipline, withholding any support for the new law — which passed with only Democratic votes, thus undermining its acceptance.

Partisan divisions also meant that Democrats could not pass legislation smoothing out some rough language in the draft bill that passed the Senate. That left the administration forced to fill far more gaps through regulation than it otherwise would have had to do, because attempts — usually routine — to re-open the bill for small changes could have led to wholesale debate in the Senate all over again.

But the bitter fight over passage was only the beginning of the war to stop Obamacare. Most Republican governors declined to create their own state insurance exchanges — an option inserted in the bill in the Senate to appeal to the classic conservative preference for local control — forcing the federal government to take at least partial responsibility for creating marketplaces serving 36 states — far more than ever intended.

Then congressional Republicans refused repeatedly to appropriate dedicated funds to do all that extra work, leaving the Health and Human Services Department and other agencies to cobble together HealthCare.gov by redirecting funds from existing programs. On top of that, nearly half of the states declined to expand their Medicaid programs using federal funds, as the law envisioned.

Then, in the months leading up to the program’s debut, some states refused to do anything at all to educate the public about the law. And congressional Republicans sent so many burdensome queries to local hospitals and nonprofits gearing up to help consumers navigate the new system face-to-face that at least two such groups returned their federal grants and gave up the effort.

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Decrying GOP sabotage of HealthCare.gov

Although the statute provided plenty of money to help states build their own insurance exchanges, it included no money for the development of a federal exchange — and Republicans would block any funding attempts. According to one former administration official,[Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen] Sebelius simply could not scrounge together enough money to keep a group of people developing the exchanges working directly under her.

So, the federal exchange that Republicans said wouldn’t work ended up not working because it was starved of the money needed to help make it work.

So, the federal exchange that Republicans said wouldn’t work ended up not working because the GOP pressured Republican governors to not form their own state exchanges. This made the federal task more complex and difficult, thus ensuring its failure.

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Paert Time Worker wrote:
One of the lies listed by Dan the Man surely is no lie. I work two parttime jobs. More and more employers, especially big retailers, keep you parttime forever.That way they can avoid paying benefits like a health plan. With so many unemployed or like me parttime they can get away with that.The laws, and that includes Obamacare, must be revised.
Sen. Marco Rubio says 75% of small businesses say they’ll fire workers or cut hours under Obamacare

Our ruling

Rubio, arguing to defund Obamacare, said "75 percent of small businesses now say they are going to be forced to either fire workers or cut their hours." That’s not remotely true. In the study of small businesses he cited, less than 10 percent said they might make that choice.

His office cited a news article that misinterpreted ambiguous results from an interest-group survey. But basic statistics about America’s small businesses show the number was seriously unlikely, and a quick message to the U.S. Chamber exposed the error.

Yet opinion pieces under Rubio’s name repeat the claim — one that’s so wrong, it’s ridiculous. We rate it Pants on Fire.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/state...

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“Rate shock”: The GOP’s shameful new Obamacare lie

If you’re a healthcare reform supporter and have found yourself arguing with a conservative about Obamacare this week you’ve probably been confronted with three different but related complaints.

1. Millions of people with individual market healthcare coverage are getting cancellation notices from their insurers.

2. People who got those notices are now experiencing “rate shock.”

3. President Obama thus lied to the public when he claimed, repeatedly, that under Obamacare “if you like your coverage, you can keep it.”

In a way it’s a healthy development for conservatives because for the first time they’re actually reacting to real testimonials from real people, instead of just regurgitating some derp they invented or read on Drudge.

As always, though, the point of the complaints isn’t to address and rectify problems, but rather to deploy them as subterfuge to wreck the entire reform edifice.

We know that because conservatives never weigh the first two complaints against the very clear and obvious good Obamacare promises to do for the uninsured and previously uninsurable. Instead they fuse them into one, and respond to all attempts to clarify the situation by invoking the third complaint. Not everyone’s experiencing rate shock, you say? The law dramatically improves the individual market relative to the pre-Obamacare status quo? Well, you’re just covering for the fact that Obama lied.

Rinse repeat.

http://www.salon.com/2013/10/30/rate_shock_th...
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regulations wrote:
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The GOP?
Screw your party this and that party that, your half breed Chicago huckster liar is robbing everyone.
commie liar
You're the king of all hucksters Taxi...and everyone knows it...

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How Republicans Rig The Game

As the nation recovers from the Republican shutdown of government, the question Americans should be asking is not “Why did the GOP do that to us?” but “Why were they even relevant in the first place?”

So dramatically have the demographic and electoral tides in this country turned against the Republican Party that, in a representative democracy worthy of the designation, the Grand Old Party should be watching from the sidelines and licking its wounds.

Not only did Barack Obama win a second term in an electoral landslide in 2012, but he is also just the fourth president in a century to have won two elections with more than 50 percent of the popular vote.

What’s more, the party controls 55 seats in the Senate, and Democratic candidates for the House received well over a million more votes than their Republican counterparts in the election last year.

And yet, John Boehner still wields the gavel in the House and Republican resistance remains a defining force in the Senate, frustrating Obama’s ambitious agenda.

Through a combination of hyperpartisan redistricting of the House, unprecedented obstructionism in the Senate and racist voter suppression in the states, today’s GOP has locked in political power that it could never have secured on a level playing field.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how...
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Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
“Rate shock”: The GOP’s shameful new Obamacare lie
If you’re a healthcare reform supporter and have found yourself arguing with a conservative about Obamacare this week you’ve probably been confronted with three different but related complaints.
1. Millions of people with individual market healthcare coverage are getting cancellation notices from their insurers.
2. People who got those notices are now experiencing “rate shock.”
3. President Obama thus lied to the public when he claimed, repeatedly, that under Obamacare “if you like your coverage, you can keep it.”
In a way it’s a healthy development for conservatives because for the first time they’re actually reacting to real testimonials from real people, instead of just regurgitating some derp they invented or read on Drudge.
As always, though, the point of the complaints isn’t to address and rectify problems, but rather to deploy them as subterfuge to wreck the entire reform edifice.
We know that because conservatives never weigh the first two complaints against the very clear and obvious good Obamacare promises to do for the uninsured and previously uninsurable. Instead they fuse them into one, and respond to all attempts to clarify the situation by invoking the third complaint. Not everyone’s experiencing rate shock, you say? The law dramatically improves the individual market relative to the pre-Obamacare status quo? Well, you’re just covering for the fact that Obama lied.
Rinse repeat.
http://www.salon.com/2013/10/30/rate_shock_th...
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This is a big scandalous scheme and the more you look at it, systematic dishonesty is rife all the way through it.”

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Igor Volsky:

6 Reasons Why Obamacare Enrollment Is Going Better Than You Think

The Wall Street Journal reported on Monday that between 40,000 and 50,000 uninsured Americans signed up for health care coverage in the 36 states where the federal government is running the Obamacare exchanges. But the initial estimate doesn’t tell the whole story about how many people are connecting to coverage. Here is what you need to know about the enrollment figures

More than 500,000 have signed up for insurance overall. Avalere Health, a consulting firm tracking sign-ups, estimates that at least 440,000 people have signed up for Medicaid and another 49,000 people enrolled in coverage in 12 states and the District of Columbia that are operating their own exchanges. Significantly, that state number don’t appear to include enrollment from California, Massachusetts, or Oregon. Thus, all told, more than 529,000 have enrolled in coverage.
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Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
Igor Volsky:
6 Reasons Why Obamacare Enrollment Is Going Better Than You Think
The Wall Street Journal reported on Monday that between 40,000 and 50,000 uninsured Americans signed up for health care coverage in the 36 states where the federal government is running the Obamacare exchanges. But the initial estimate doesn’t tell the whole story about how many people are connecting to coverage. Here is what you need to know about the enrollment figures
More than 500,000 have signed up for insurance overall. Avalere Health, a consulting firm tracking sign-ups, estimates that at least 440,000 people have signed up for Medicaid and another 49,000 people enrolled in coverage in 12 states and the District of Columbia that are operating their own exchanges. Significantly, that state number don’t appear to include enrollment from California, Massachusetts, or Oregon. Thus, all told, more than 529,000 have enrolled in coverage.
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“you want your plan, you keep your plan”

True or False?

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A swing and a miss!

I'm sorry, but you've struck out.

Again.

Please feel free to play again later when you've developed a response with substance and honesty in it.

LOL!
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" If your like your healthcare provider , you can keep it, and if you like your doctor you can keep him to".....?????

Obama has said this 1000 times ,and now people have to change health care providers and doctors, after their healthcare was dropped for them....... now spin that or change the subject !!

Once the truth hits you right in the face, you still defend this POTUS !!

WHY? Tell it like it is!!
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Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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6 Reasons Why Obamacare Enrollment Is Going Better Than You Think
The Wall Street Journal reported on Monday that between 40,000 and 50,000 uninsured Americans signed up for health care coverage in the 36 states where the federal government is running the Obamacare exchanges. But the initial estimate doesn’t tell the whole story about how many people are connecting to coverage. Here is what you need to know about the enrollment figures
More than 500,000 have signed up for insurance overall. Avalere Health, a consulting firm tracking sign-ups, estimates that at least 440,000 people have signed up for Medicaid and another 49,000 people enrolled in coverage in 12 states and the District of Columbia that are operating their own exchanges. Significantly, that state number don’t appear to include enrollment from California, Massachusetts, or Oregon. Thus, all told, more than 529,000 have enrolled in coverage.
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A swing and a miss!

I'm sorry, but you've struck out.

Again.

Please feel free to play again later when you've developed a response with substance and honesty in it.

LOL!
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An estimated 5 million Americans have had their health plans canceled under President Obama’s Affordable Care Act. Here’s how many people now need to sign up for new plans every day.

The White House announced Wednesday about 106,000 people selected new health plans in the first month of open enrollment through the state and federal insurance marketplaces.

Of those, about 27,000 people actually signed up for health plans through the federal site HealthCare.gov .

In order for everyone to retain insurance, 156,000 people will need to sign up for new health plans every day until Dec. 15 — the deadline for health coverage to go into effect on Jan. 1, 2014.

Take a peek here:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/passantino/heres-how-...
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Ha ha ha ahhh them racial hating tea bags. That lumbaugh nut juice is all the health care your ignorant asses deserve. America says just blow it out
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George Will:

Young People Fleeing Obamacare in 'Rational Terror'

Healthcare.gov isn't going to be fixed by the end of November.

Yet, that's the least of the Obama administration's worries concerning their epic failure in rolling out their new health care law.

Bloomberg's Megan McArdle apty noted that only

"hope"

would be able to save Obamacare.

With the system collapsing, pundit George Will said last night that a critical component of Obamacare's success - young people - is running away in "rational terror."

- See more at: http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/matt-vespa/geor...
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Igor Volsky wrote:
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A swing and a miss!
I'm sorry, but you've struck out.
Again.
Please feel free to play again later when you've developed a response with substance and honesty in it.
LOL!
One month into the rollout of Obamacare, 106,185 people had chosen a private health insurance plan using the health care reform law's troubled exchanges, the Department of Health and Human Services announced Wednesday, the first time the Obama administration has given enrollment figures

The disappointing results of the first phase of Affordable Care Act enrollment underscore the fragility of the new marketplaces and the urgent need for the Obama administration to get HealthCare.gov reliably functioning by the end of this month. The coverage of millions of people whose plans are being eliminated hangs in the balance, as does the prospect of reducing the ranks of the 48 million Americans who have no health insurance.

Some 26,794 people who have selected a health plan did so via the federally run insurance exchanges, compared to the more than 79,000 who used the exchanges in the 15 states and the District of Columbia that are operating their own marketplaces, according to the HHS report, which spans the period from Oct. 1 to Nov. 2.

Not all of the more than 100,000 people tallied by the administration have taken the final necessary step and actually made the first payment for their coverage, which begins in January, the report indicates. The Department of Health and Human Services doesn't have accurate data on how many people made payments to insurers, which aren't due until Dec. 15, Sebelius said.

An additional 975,407 people have completed the application to determine whether they can receive subsidies and now have only to choose a health plan, the report says. More than 396,000 people using the exchanges have been deemed eligible for Medicaid or the Children's Health Insurance Plan.

Yoy cant run or hide from the actual numbers !!
Read more here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/13/obam...
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Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
Igor Volsky:
6 Reasons Why Obamacare Enrollment Is Going Better Than You Think
The Wall Street Journal reported on Monday that between 40,000 and 50,000 uninsured Americans signed up for health care coverage in the 36 states where the federal government is running the Obamacare exchanges. But the initial estimate doesn’t tell the whole story about how many people are connecting to coverage. Here is what you need to know about the enrollment figures
More than 500,000 have signed up for insurance overall. Avalere Health, a consulting firm tracking sign-ups, estimates that at least 440,000 people have signed up for Medicaid and another 49,000 people enrolled in coverage in 12 states and the District of Columbia that are operating their own exchanges. Significantly, that state number don’t appear to include enrollment from California, Massachusetts, or Oregon. Thus, all told, more than 529,000 have enrolled in coverage.
LMFAO Thanks for the laugh!
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Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
Republicans are the real lying liars on Obamacare
Noble lies have in many ways defined the debate over the Affordable Care Act, but the vast majority of them have been lies conservatives told in a failed effort to nix reform.
Death panels are the most famous such lie. Another is that Obamacare is destroying the economy, creating a part-time labor pandemic and a major obstacle to recovery from the great recession. A third is that it will blow up the debt.
A fourth, also still with us, is that Obamacare is a stalking horse for socialized healthcare.
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the right’s been given a complete pass for feigning concern for people whose coverage has been canceled, when their own reform proposals are an order of magnitude more disruptive.
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Lying is bad. People shouldn’t lie. But on this score, just ask yourself whose descriptions of Obamacare were closer to reality: Obama’s or the Republican Party’s?
It isn’t even a close call.
http://www.salon.com/2013/11/07/a_petty_rant_...
LMFAO!

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