glen mills schools
Former GMS STAFF

Ardsley, NY

#65 Jan 27, 2014
Alex Spadel wrote:
I was placed in Glen Mills at the age of 15 by my probation officer for a misdemeanor marijuana charge. I attended from the end of February of 2005 until the end of May; in actuality a very short stay compared to most kids. The way the staff at this school treat the children is disgusting. For simply cutting their eyes or moving their body while talking to staff members I witnessed the beatings of many kids. At one point, I actually witnessed a child who was on crutches get violently thrown into a concrete wall for cutting his eyes while talking to a staff member. The worst incident I ever witnessed was when a child accidentally touched a staff member (I personally witnessed this, and I KNOW it was an accident). This poor kid was brutally beaten by a 300 pound staff member right in front of my eyes. They use the term "physical restraint"; I call it a savage beatdown. I stood in horror as I watched this kid get get thrown into a chalkboard multiple times, and when he fell to the ground on his hands and knees, this massive staff member (who's name is Jason Slizofski in case you wanted to know) proceeded to brutally kick this kid in the ribs with all his might. The kid was dragged from the classroom covered in blood, crying his eyes out. When I saw the kid later that night, he was dragged into the unit office to be beaten again by the team leader, Kevin Owens. I did not witness this, but I am not stupid, and the sounds were clear. He was then given an FTA (Failure To Adjust) and was promptly sent to another placement. The bottom line is that in the Glen Mills Schools, they do not "manually assist" or "physically restrain"; they simply beat the living daylights out of children for not complying or for being disrespectful. Keep in mind that not complying means accidentally twitching while talking to staff, not making complete eye contact, or from using any term deemed as slang when speaking to staff. On a much larger basis, I consistently witnessed widespread verbal abuse also. The staff that work at these schools are nothing short of disgusting animals, and I hope to God that one day the lid gets blown off in this school. The only thing this school did for me was make me realize that there are really some disgusting people in this world; massive men the size of NFL players who enjoy beating children for looking at them the wrong way.
. Its a shame but ur right .
Former GMS STAFF

Ardsley, NY

#66 Jan 27, 2014
State Representative wrote:
Can you provide me with other examples of abuse? If they are abusing kids...this needs to stop!
<quoted text>
. It happens all the time. But protocols are in place to cover up poor behavior and decisions by staff and students.
donel

Doylestown, PA

#67 Mar 4, 2014
i was there from september 2012 till feburary 2014.... i just got discharged a week ago and was that a terrible two years of my life... its gotten worse.... they make the school look good when po's and visitors come on campus... but when they leave its back to hell we go.... i seen kids ket thrown into walls in the cafeteria .... i seen one kid get his arm broke by staff member Jeff Hill and Herb Beekley.... Mike Mcvey is racist he called me a black piece of shit no wonder his ancestors hung my ancestors on trees... i even seen a kid get choked during a so called "physical restraint" and the kid past out and had to go to the hospital and i heard they lied and told the doctors that the kid was getting jumped and the staff member was the one who saved the kid... that place can burn to the ground..... THEY ARE LYING TO ALL VISITORS... saying its a good place and the shops we have....
Kareem Williams

Pittsburgh, PA

#68 Mar 15, 2014
I was a stunt at Glen Mlss from December 98 to June 2000. I was in Johnson Hall. I hear all of the stories here, and I can't judge the way you feel about GM. I myself can say that GM is the best thing that ever happened to me. I was on the wrong path growing up in North Philadelphia, and I needed the redirection that I got from Glen Mills. SOme of the guys mentiioned like Reggie Owens, Bob Johnson, and especially Dave Rodgers helped me tremendously and taught me to be a responsible man. YES, I got tossed around, hemmed up, cursed at, etc....But that's what I needed at the time. I hated it for the first few months. That's mainly because I wasn't used to discipline. I was used to running the streets doing whatever I wanted. But I finally embraced the place after about 4 months, and by my 6th month I was an exec in my unit. By my 8th month or so I was the President of Johnson Hall, which I remained until my graduation and discharge in June 2000. Still to this day I keep up with some of the staff members, providing them with updates on my life. I even worked there for about a year after graduating. Honestly some of the stories I see here may be true, and if so they are horrible. But like i said it's the best thing that happened to me, and that is because rather than to complain about rough treatment, I took advantage of the good things in the program. Including a scholarship to attend college. I now have a masters degree in finance, and work for one of the biggest financial institutions in the world. With all due respect, I'm sure that a lot of the guys complaining here about "abuse" were previously running the streets thinking they were the toughest guy in the world before Glen Mills. But as soon as you're faced with so called "abuse" you curl up in the fetal position and become babies. Like I said, I know some staff went overboard TRUST ME I DO! But the fact remains that a lot of young men need severe discipline to turn their lives in the right direction. I surely needed it. And today I'm a better man for it. So in closing I will say that no kid deserves to be abused, but a little(Or for me A LOT) of tough love may be needed to change the course of your life. It changed mine! I'm forever proud to be a BATTLING BULL!!
Kareem Williams

Pittsburgh, PA

#69 Mar 15, 2014
For the record Im not in Pittsburg. Not sure why it says that.
tj bektashi

Macomb, MI

#70 Mar 16, 2014
I was Buchanan hall 2011-2012 flyer from Michigan I've played soccer I ran track and also swimming I was not a superstar although I did start at varsity level for soccer loved my coaches most of the time we got on sports and we treated our coaches and teammates like a second family we got close especially during camp when we had to go to practice 3 times a day. It was alright I never felt like I was locked up although I did ms my girlfriend and family and felt home sick after the phone calls and packages and mail but if u fuck up depending on who it is working you would get fucked up I got it bad one time because I fought back when Nate from Buchanan hall our hall also my counciler slapped me across the face I put him in a head lock and told him to go to sleep but while that happened I had 4 staff pounding my entire body I had 2 black eyes a broken nose never had propper treatment for my nose its still crooked towards the bridge of it but what they did to me was they cut my mail and phone privs til I healed up I never told anybody but my parents because I just wanted to do my time and once I got my shit together I didn't drag the issue because I was happy I was out and tried hard to forget everything I've gone through I was 15 when I was there June 28th 2011 turned 16 June 30th they gave me a stale b day cake the size of a soft ball lmfao but I laugh about this shit now nothing we can do about it my entire time there I've seen 1 staff fire for over doing it now that was like watching a scary movie so many screams what creeped me out the most was at night walking the hill was the cementary from kids who died during a fire
Flint town

Davison, MI

#72 Apr 26, 2014
I was at Glen mills from 95 to97 in Fillmore hall. I did also witness kids beaten but was never touched once while I was there because I to knew how to play the game so I could get the hell out of there. Most staff are animals that should b locked up themselves. I was lucky to have the best counselor on campus James Jackson who I admired and still think about today. The beatings are real but if u can make it though u can take some good things from the program as well
God bless you

Saint Clair Shores, MI

#73 May 1, 2014
My brother goes there and he is doing great, I read all the other reviews. It sounds like you only get hit or punished if you do something bad. if you don't want to get hit , do what your supposed to...
Brian

New York, NY

#74 May 19, 2014
Let's be clear here, Glen Mills is about sociopaths who have learned how to function in society (the staff) teaching other sociopaths who haven't learned how to function in society become better more adaptive sociopaths (the students) who take advantage of students who are unable to adapt to the new environment because they have disabilities.
Just because they have better outcomes than other juvenile justice settings doesn't make it great. By their own admission the way the program works is kind of fucked up.
south

United States

#76 Jun 1, 2014
I was there in 2003. I was in Johnson Hall. To be honest, that place is hell. They allow other peers to spit in your face, for the littlest thing's, while in town house, I think it was called. The staff beat you and some more shit. SMH..... I remember non bulls had to sit on the floor. The bulls could stand up, and the executives could sit on the couches . That place is some shit. For the people who remember the staff member Charles ..... that use to play for the Green Bay Packers ...... his big bit*h a$$ fuc*ed me up a few times .... lls, I wish I could see him now ...... in just in case if he see's this im Thomas Stewart ..... remember the Maryland boy as you use to call me.... remember when you use to beat on me and I laughed ......lls that only made the beatings worse ...... but fyi nicca I wuz 1 of dem real niccaz wit cha bamma a$$...
Kareem

Pittsburgh, PA

#77 Jun 4, 2014
south wrote:
I was there in 2003. I was in Johnson Hall. To be honest, that place is hell. They allow other peers to spit in your face, for the littlest thing's, while in town house, I think it was called. The staff beat you and some more shit. SMH..... I remember non bulls had to sit on the floor. The bulls could stand up, and the executives could sit on the couches . That place is some shit. For the people who remember the staff member Charles ..... that use to play for the Green Bay Packers ...... his big bit*h a$$ fuc*ed me up a few times .... lls, I wish I could see him now ...... in just in case if he see's this im Thomas Stewart ..... remember the Maryland boy as you use to call me.... remember when you use to beat on me and I laughed ......lls that only made the beatings worse ...... but fyi nicca I wuz 1 of dem real niccaz wit cha bamma a$$...
First of all if you were so real, you would've did something to Charles while you were at GMS instead of talking trash on a website that he will likely never look at lol. But I hear you though. Anyway, I'm trying to think If I was working in Johnson in 03. I also was the President of the unit when I was committed there (December 1998-June 2000). My picture was on the top of the wall of fame in staffs office. My name is K. Williams. Glen Mills is hell if you are a immature kid that can't control yourself. It teaches you about accountability, something that I didn't know about before I got there. Charles was my counselor actually, and he put his hands on me maybe twice in 18 months. So that proves it was YOU who didn't know how to act. I actually spoke at career day this past April and had lunch with Charles and Reggie Owens. Glen Mills changed my life for the better. I see after 10 years you still have a childish mentality though. Still not accepting the fact that you probably needed your ass whooped when you were a kid at the mills.
posie

Philadelphia, PA

#78 Jun 4, 2014
Kareem wrote:
<quoted text>First of all if you were so real, you would've did something to Charles while you were at GMS instead of talking trash on a website that he will likely never look at lol. But I hear you though. Anyway, I'm trying to think If I was working in Johnson in 03. I also was the President of the unit when I was committed there (December 1998-June 2000). My picture was on the top of the wall of fame in staffs office. My name is K. Williams. Glen Mills is hell if you are a immature kid that can't control yourself. It teaches you about accountability, something that I didn't know about before I got there. Charles was my counselor actually, and he put his hands on me maybe twice in 18 months. So that proves it was YOU who didn't know how to act. I actually spoke at career day this past April and had lunch with Charles and Reggie Owens. Glen Mills changed my life for the better. I see after 10 years you still have a childish mentality though. Still not accepting the fact that you probably needed your ass whooped when you were a kid at the mills.
He's got a really small PP
James H

Chantilly, VA

#79 Jul 29, 2014
My name is James Holmes i attended glen mills from 2000-2002. I was a ward of the state of michigan. My parents had died and i was a teen and foster care was not for me. I had a great experience there. I played basketball and football every season got my GED and got along with staff. I was one who hit a staff member because he touched me first. I was restrained i was not hit once. I was a member of lincoln hall at that time. I learned great leadership skills being there. I was a bull then promoted to unit executive. Now im an army vet with 2 combat deployments with the 82nd airborne division. Played semi-pro basketball in the ABA Leaue, now i own my own business. Glen mills is what you make it.
mikeaaron424

Royal Oak, MI

#80 Oct 9, 2014
I was there for the same incident. I used to kick it with that kid every once in a while cuz im from Michigan too. but we was in different units and I aint really get all the details of the story but I kinda know what happened. the kid I think was from Muskegon or some where but... he got grabbed or whatever and ended up breaking his elbow or something during the restraint. I knew the kid and I KNOW he wasn't violent. just another kid but more of the real boyish innocent talkative class clown type kid. but I know before he got put in a cast and his unit pm senior counselor came in after the issue and asked him to know what happened he told the kid to put his arms at his sides like the norms say when confronted by staff. but the kid told him he couldn't do it probably at least a few times cuz it wouldn't go down but the staff wasn't havin that. I don't know if he didn't buy that his arm was messed up or what but he gripped him up like hes supposedly allowed to do and messed him up even more. I know or heard he had some law action taking place in his defense after that but I never found out what happened. anyone who says they don't beat kids there is delusional or straight up lying. I don't know how many of u in ur sick mind think its right to do all the unspoken acts that go on there I cant even begin to describe. anyone whos was there KNOWS. I don't give a flying f what that school did for you. if u think it was anything less than cruel the way they treated u viewed you and talked to u then there is something wrong in ur picture. morals or perception are all messed up SERIOUSLY. I cant begin to describe just how I feel about that place and what its like on the inside. but them staff and people are straight disgusting. even the females. what mother of children would stand and be okay working there knowing what was going on and seeing how that place was? and I bet them disgusting females and mothers enjoyed that *ish* too. just imagine what they must have thought about us to be okay with all that ya know. I mean they did a lot for me there ill admit. SO much actually and that's the cover up. best school in America am I right. or the worst behind closed doors??? but even all the good it gave me I can never forget or take back all the abuse, disrespect, suppression I felt and loss of control and my self and who I was. and the fact that justice isn't being served. I didn't even have it as bad as other kids but I didn't need to. all I can do now is move on and take the best of what they gave me and what it was and learn from it. I understand why they do some of it because u got wild kids from the hood ya know. but that place is the perfect example of responsibility and power being abused because of grey areas in the book of rules and use of individual discretion towards how to handle situations the way they want based on the rules( and when they all team up on you and lie about what happened and how it really went down in the log books). but in reality, a lot of the time its not bending the rules but straight up breaking them. JUST like many aspects and areas of the world we live in. the corruption there was mostly based on those "peoples" morals and abuse of power. but I cant even describe what then 2 faced people are like on the inside. all I know is the kids there probally need help as were out here and if I ever seen some of them people....... I guess id wanna catch up a bit. cuz I KNOW how things with them are still today and everyday. WAKE UP, GO TO WORK, AND BE EVERYTHING!!!!! them kids hate right now and justifiably.
dboy

United States

#81 Oct 27, 2014
Kareem Williams wrote:
I was a stunt at Glen Mlss from December 98 to June 2000. I was in Johnson Hall. I hear all of the stories here, and I can't judge the way you feel about GM. I myself can say that GM is the best thing that ever happened to me. I was on the wrong path growing up in North Philadelphia, and I needed the redirection that I got from Glen Mills. SOme of the guys mentiioned like Reggie Owens, Bob Johnson, and especially Dave Rodgers helped me tremendously and taught me to be a responsible man. YES, I got tossed around, hemmed up, cursed at, etc....But that's what I needed at the time. I hated it for the first few months. That's mainly because I wasn't used to discipline. I was used to running the streets doing whatever I wanted. But I finally embraced the place after about 4 months, and by my 6th month I was an exec in my unit. By my 8th month or so I was the President of Johnson Hall, which I remained until my graduation and discharge in June 2000. Still to this day I keep up with some of the staff members, providing them with updates on my life. I even worked there for about a year after graduating. Honestly some of the stories I see here may be true, and if so they are horrible. But like i said it's the best thing that happened to me, and that is because rather than to complain about rough treatment, I took advantage of the good things in the program. Including a scholarship to attend college. I now have a masters degree in finance, and work for one of the biggest financial institutions in the world. With all due respect, I'm sure that a lot of the guys complaining here about "abuse" were previously running the streets thinking they were the toughest guy in the world before Glen Mills. But as soon as you're faced with so called "abuse" you curl up in the fetal position and become babies. Like I said, I know some staff went overboard TRUST ME I DO! But the fact remains that a lot of young men need severe discipline to turn their lives in the right direction. I surely needed it. And today I'm a better man for it. So in closing I will say that no kid deserves to be abused, but a little(Or for me A LOT) of tough love may be needed to change the course of your life. It changed mine! I'm forever proud to be a BATTLING BULL!!
I was there in 93-94 and it was like some are saying, but I'm with the person above who's comment I'm replying too, I'm from Baltimore and it's what I needed at that time, I got my Ass kicked just like the rest but I got nothing but love for Glen Mills Schools!!!! Battling Bulls
Christopher

Garden City, MI

#82 Nov 19, 2014
I was there 1991 it was rough at first but after all the confrontations I realized it wasn't that bad and stayed out of trouble.
garth

Dewitt, MI

#83 Nov 30, 2014
State Representative wrote:
Can you provide me with other examples of abuse? If they are abusing kids...this needs to stop!
<quoted text>
I was there novermeber 2011 to December 2012 its still going on and much worse I witnessed kids get starved beaten there favorite thing in my unit (Madison hall) under Eric maelstrom was to choke you unconscious then repeatedly kick and punch your back and the back of your head as to not leave visible marks this place was hell I considered ending my life multiple times just so the beating s and fear would end.
dontsendyourkids here

Royersford, PA

#84 Dec 6, 2014
I got sent to Glen Mills Schools in 2012 for violating my probation. I got caught with weed. i spent all of what would have been my senior year of high school stuck there. Grouped with kids facing felony charges like aggravated assault and even manslaughter. The staff are around 6'3" 215+ lbs on average. If a kid was to step out of line in the slightest way they would usually immediately be gripped up. here's where the abuse happens... if they showed any kind of "resistance", or rolled their eyes, they would then be thrown to the ground and beaten pretty harshly. if they continued to struggle, they would then be beaten by multiple staff, until they were pretty much too fucked up, and had zero fight left. I was beaten by 2 staff members because apparently i was talking back, when confronted I complied, but for some reason the staff just kept escalating the situation. the one staff grabbed my collar and started slamming my head into the cinder block wall that was behind me. My eyes rolled in the back of my head and i could feel my body starting to go numb. instinctively i tried to get free, and he threw me to the ground. Then both staff members stomped me out while i defenselessly tried to regain consciousness. I also saw many other kids get beat.. from getting their head thrown through the wall, to straight up trampled. Please don't ever let your kid get sent here. I would love nothing more than to see this place shut down. it's cruel, and i honestly don't know how it hasn't been shut down yet.
dcheatam

Simpsonville, SC

#85 Jan 22, 2015
Glen mills graduate 1984-1987, and the place is great. Just look at the numbers, 35%recidivism rate. Where other programs are up around 80 or 90%. So if you were beat, your probably in that 35%. Gms was my 3rd placement from the time I was ten years old. And the other programs couldn't even compare. When I first arrived, it took a Lil time to get used to all the norms, and structure. Like most kids I was very hard headed, and disrespectful towards authority. So yes I had to be touched for attention a couple of times in the beginning. But I learned quick, how to RESPECT my elders. And during my time I also learned a very valuable lesson, if u want respect show respect.! So all y'all crybabys suck it up, and move on. They gave me and a bunch of other kids a way out of poverty and criminal activities. And I'll always love the mills. Tom Mann and Rico Joseph, love yo u guys! Duwayne Cheatam...hoopteam! Go bulls!
Gmmom

Nazareth, PA

#86 Jan 23, 2015
State Representative wrote:
Can you provide me with other examples of abuse? If they are abusing kids...this needs to stop!
<quoted text>
We are an upscale family whose son went down the wrong path and became involved with drugs. This is a boy who was raised with respect in a respectable family, who now resides at Glen Mills with boys who sell meth and shoot people. He reports that boys are frequently beaten, which is called PR or physical restraint (he states that some of the boys don't understand any other method of punishment and "deserve" it and that other boys don't). I spoke to him yesterday and he reported that he was threatened by staff that they would keep him there as long as they want. He sounds and appears heavily medicated. In the beginning, I supported his stay there, as I was told that it would help get him on the right track and help him finish high school. He says that there is barely enough time to finish school work and needs help with certain topics, which he isn't getting, even though I requested it in writing. He wants to graduate, but is not being given the tools to do so. This post will be the beginning of a letter writing campaign against this school, which looks like a country club, but raises serious moral and ethical questions about what is really going on behind closed doors. This place is a glorified prison and I hope the state will look very carefully at the punitive methods employed there. Cameras and video equipment should be in place everywhere on campus and there is none.

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