Is there a drug problem at Glendora High?

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Glendora Mom

Covina, CA

#1 Sep 15, 2009
Several threads regarding the recent death of a GHS student are currently active in the Glendora Topix forums.

More than one of these threads have turned to name calling, finger pointing, those who claim there's a huge drug problem at GHS and those who claim GHS is no worse than any other Southland school.

Those who claim that there IS a problem that needs to be addressed are slammed by those who don't want to hear it. Those who don't want to hear it claim that it's not a "community problem" but a parenting problem.

Are parents in the dark because they're in denial, or because they're simply uninformed? Is it up to parents to have to dig for this information, or should the information be free-flowing from the district, PD, etc??

Is this Glendora living up to the "Glendenial" nick name, or is it a few people posting under a number of names blowing things out of proportion?

If there IS a problem, should the community take steps to address it, or is that up to the parents?

This should be interesting.
GHS drug store

Rowland Heights, CA

#2 Sep 15, 2009
Glendora High School has some students who are above the law and have way too much money to play stupid games with DRUGS!

Daddy and Mommy protect them with social contacts there the click clubs they belong to, Oh No my little Janney or Johnny could do such a thing!

So what Glendora High School has turned in to a Drug Store for the privilaged students of upper crusters of Glendora, California 91741.
Ugh

Monrovia, CA

#3 Sep 15, 2009
Glendora Mom wrote:
Several threads regarding the recent death of a GHS student are currently active in the Glendora Topix forums.
More than one of these threads have turned to name calling, finger pointing, those who claim there's a huge drug problem at GHS and those who claim GHS is no worse than any other Southland school.
Those who claim that there IS a problem that needs to be addressed are slammed by those who don't want to hear it. Those who don't want to hear it claim that it's not a "community problem" but a parenting problem.
Are parents in the dark because they're in denial, or because they're simply uninformed? Is it up to parents to have to dig for this information, or should the information be free-flowing from the district, PD, etc??
Is this Glendora living up to the "Glendenial" nick name, or is it a few people posting under a number of names blowing things out of proportion?
If there IS a problem, should the community take steps to address it, or is that up to the parents?
This should be interesting.
Your name says it all.*cringe*
Go power walk, or something.
Ugh Less

Rowland Heights, CA

#4 Sep 15, 2009
Ugh's a bigger idiot than what the word implys, go stick your head back in to the bucket of sand!
GLENDORA DAD

Covina, CA

#5 Sep 15, 2009
It's there and it's big. Bigger than we'll ever know.

I'm sure there are some parents that are aware and blow it off as "kids today", or are too stoned on Xanax themselves to realize that Johnny's sharing the bottle with them.

IMO, the vast majority of the parents who's kid's are involved in this problem don't know that there is a problem. "Get a clue" you say? Give me a break. Better yet, give me a hint! Drop them off at school in the AM, pick them up in the PM, keep them in on school nights. How could they be doing drugs? It wouldn't enter into most parents minds that the kids are eating pills at school and are more than just "tired" when they pick them up.

I'm just glad that there hasn't been anything stronger than antibiotics in my house for the last five years, because I wouldn't have thought to do any more than the standard "keep out of reach of children" before hearing of the illegal prescription drug epidemic at the HS last year.

Two neighbor kids got caught up in it last year. Their parents had no clue and one of them is a cop, so spare me the "it's obvious, the parents are just stupid" reply. At what point does the school or another agency (PD? PTA?) to something to increase awareness?

I attended a town hall type meeting at the Bidwell Forum about a dozen years ago as the PD tried to head off the gang problems before they took hold here. If memory serves, I even read about it in the Trib. Several Police Officers and a local "gang expert" told parents what to look out for. They brought in a kid dressed in baggy clothes, then proceeded to pull gun after gun out of his baggy pants, several bags of dope a small window air conditioner (j/k), etc... Point was, there was more to this "fashion" than met the eye and they were trying to prevent it from taking off here.

That's the last time I remember seeing anything pre-emptive done here. Why is that? Did that upset the fifty or so people in attendance so much that the City quit trying? Do they look at this drug problem and just think it's too late, or is it that it's an "uncomfortable" subject so they avoid talking about it?

Those that sit back and throw rock with comments like "mind your kids", "it's not the town's problem", etc... are out of touch plain and simple. When's the last time you had a kid in the HS? I'd bet it was before the HS parking lot was full of new Chevy Trucks, Lexus', etc..., back in the days when drugs meant red eyes, acid trips and the like. Times have changed, but you obviously haven't.

Those of you with kids at the HS who think this is being blown out of proportion? Put on your denim dress and fanny pack and stick your heads back in the sand. Your kid's probably high right now.
LDT

La Puente, CA

#6 Sep 15, 2009
Ugh wrote:
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Your name says it all.*cringe*
Go power walk, or something.
Obviously you're not a parent wanting to do everything possible to keep your children safe ... I had a brother that was a major crack addict at 17 and still is .
Do you know why he's still an addict at 40 ?
Because in reality what does a 17 year old have to lose ... A home? A spouse ? A real job? Hot Dog On A Stick really doesn't pay the rent ... Basically he's still 17 he went through rehab numerous times ,Did prison time and nothing to this day has snapped this waste of human skin back to reality .
I'm sorry I resent obnoxious ,rude,self important , dexing,xanax bar munching ,EMO, punker wanna be's screwing up the world I want for my child ... If you don't like people questioning and trying to find answers may I suggest you go on a power walk off a short pier ?
Truth Is

Diamond Bar, CA

#7 Sep 16, 2009
The stupidity of some of your comments are pretty annoying Glendora Dad. On the other thread you talked about how the PD knew about this kid and his problem, a kid who had never been in trouble or come to the attention of the PD before. Yet somehow you decided the cops were to blame so your little jabs at them, the schools, the Good Old Boys and programs that don't work pretty much can be round filed. It's all about your personal gripes and that's about it.

Like your response to my post, a two line stupid comment not even close to anything I said or implied, you mistakenly say the city does nothing "preemptive" but what would you call DARE? You might not like the program, as you've made clear, but it is "proactive" same as the countless talks Glendora PD officers have had with kids around town that they know to be involved in drugs that you know nothing about.

Should the city and PD consider other programs, sure but if you didn't agree with them you'd just trash talk those at well. Nothing is going to satisfy someone like you, but I haven't seen any plan you've forwarded, where is it? Do you have any expertise regarding the subject?

For the poster who said certain kids are protected, b.s., cops in this town will take anyone to jail regardless of who they're related to. People who spout that nonsense are going back many years, doesn't happen these days.

I can say with 100% certainty the talks individual cops have with many kids that need to be talked to take place but like the one kid said in the other thread narcing off a friend would mean having to give up himself and his partying habits and that isn't going to happen. That doesn't do any good but it's how the mind of certain kids work involved in not only this type of scenario but tagging and gang crimes.

I just re-read your posts on the other thread where you claimed the PD would have your post taken down, didn't happen did it? A cop hater is always easy to point out and that's all you come off as along with just being someone who wants to throw out blame at those you have some hostility about.

Come up with a program or solution yourself instead of being someone whose here only to run down others.

GLENDORA DAD
Baldwin Park, CA
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Truth Is wrote:
Every high school has it's drug problems, Glendora is no different.
Ah, so it's okay that GHS has a problem as long as others do too. Thanks for clearing that up.
Still telling

Rowland Heights, CA

#8 Sep 16, 2009
For the "truth is" poster, your so full of yourself!

Your claims are clouded in your own self worth of Glendora City Council BULL.
Truth Is

Diamond Bar, CA

#9 Sep 16, 2009
Nope, not at all, just speaking the truth. You're the troll who runs around the Topix Board posting trash about the city no matter what the thread is about. All your posts are disregarded by people with half a brain.

Address the problem if you can, if you can't than move on to another thread.
Like it IS

Rowland Heights, CA

#10 Sep 16, 2009
For the "truth is" poster, your so full of yourself! You wouldn't know the truth if it sat on your head!

Your claims are clouded in your own self worth of Glendora City Council* BULL.

*Gary Clifford, Ken Herman, Karen Davis, Gene Murabito and Douglas Tessitor.

More over your so busy hiding the facts that you have become a GREAT BIG LIAR.
GLENDORA DAD

Covina, CA

#11 Sep 16, 2009
Gee, you have me pegged. I'm just a rock throwing hater who's never happy. I'm so ashamed.

First off, my "two line comment not even close to anything I said or implied" was a direct quote from you on line one. My comment was line two. Try again.

As for DARE? I just asked my Son who graduated last year what DARE did at the high School and he said the last he saw of the DARE program was at Goddard. Next?

Programs? I hand delivered copies of the State's "Safe Schools Program" to the Board who promptly blew it off. I then took it to the PTA who wouldn't look at it and told me that was none of their business. As a member of this "Association" I had ZERO voice unless I wanted to suggest some fun activity or wanted to give input on the up-coming bake sale and I had to take off work during the day to even do that. Why? Because they didn't meet at night when anyone other than stay at home Mom's could attend.

Go read up on that program. One of the key elements is communication with parents. It suggests that parents be made aware of dangerous trends taking form in their schools, what to look out for and how to keep their children from being involved.

As for the PD taking my posts down? My opinion came from another thread regarding Vincent that went from one hundred posts down to sixty over night. Poof. And no, I hadn't posted on that thread.

Your comment about "how the mind of certain kids work involved in not only this type of scenario but tagging and gang crimes" only goes to show how out of touch you really are. The current problem at GHS is wide spread rather than the picture you're painting. Even clean cut kids who are involved in the sports programs and don't walk around with their pants falling off are popping pills. In fact, one of the kids suspended last year was a sports "star" who's now attending a Pac 10 school on a full ride scholarship. For some reason, the school didn't hand him over to Police. Too high profile I'd have to guess?

So you can say with "100% certainty" that the PD makes contact with these kids? I guess that makes you "staff" then, right? Then please explain to me why when one of Vincent's friends told an officer the night he disappeared "He's up on Colby Trail", he was told "we'd need a better lead than that to send Officers up there". Or, explain why the Dispatcher who "uh-huh'd" her way through a phone call with specific information about the case, then didn't even want contact info for detectives to follow up with the "RP"?

I honestly might not have had such a harsh opinion of the PD had it not been for "contact" that I had with a young Officer in July. He and another Officer were in my vacationing neighbor's back yard. When I saw their unit out front and asked what was going on, he looked at me with his mirrored sunglasses and basically told me to move along. I told him that I was watching the house and had a key if they needed it and his reply was "I told you we have everything under control, go back to your house..." End of discussion. Upon return, my neighbor couldn't even find out why they were there. This guy was a first class jerk.

I've answered your questions, so here's one for you... When's the last time YOU had a kid in GHS?
Glendora Native

Covina, CA

#12 Sep 16, 2009
SNAP!!
Crackle an Pop

Rowland Heights, CA

#13 Sep 16, 2009
I bet if you were one of the upper crusters in Glendora, California's City government "Circle Jerker's" you would not be treat that way ever!

Remember it only take one bad apple in any org. to ruin the whole barrel, since we had a drugy on the PD and another who had a mistress and wife or the other who was run out of town because they were too honest!

I honestly might not have had such a harsh opinion of the PD had it not been for "contact" that I had with a young Officer in July. He and another Officer were in my vacationing neighbor's back yard. When I saw their unit out front and asked what was going on, he looked at me with his mirrored sunglasses and basically told me to move along. I told him that I was watching the house and had a key if they needed it and his reply was "I told you we have everything under control, go back to your house..." End of discussion. Upon return, my neighbor couldn't even find out why they were there. This guy was a first class jerk.

I've answered your questions, so here's one for you... When's the last time YOU had a kid in GHS?
GLENDORA DAD

Covina, CA

#14 Sep 16, 2009
I wasn't going to touch your paragraph because this thread isn't about Vincent, but I think it's too important not to touch. "On the other thread you talked about how the PD knew about this kid and his problem, a kid who had never been in trouble or come to the attention of the PD before"

Is that right? I'm his neighbor. I don't have control over what they document and what they don't. Maybe if you hurry, you can check with the HS and get his records before they get mis-filed.

How would you know any of this anyway? Again, staff? Please get back to work and stop wasting my tax money.
GLENDORA DAD

Covina, CA

#15 Sep 16, 2009
Sorry, s/b "first paragraph".
Truth Is

Diamond Bar, CA

#16 Sep 16, 2009
Staff of what, I don't work for the city but know many who do and talked to individual officers all the time. A kid having personal problems is automatically someone who comes under their sphere of investigation, are you kidding? What planet are you living on? You don't control what they document and I'll guess they don't control the information GHS decides to pass on to them.

The PD had a whole bunch of posts removed from here, again, are you kidding? Did you see 40 posts that would have upset the PD? If you did you're dreaming and you need to wake up. Seems like you just make up things as you go to fit your nutty conspiracy mentality.

How did you come up with this? When did they know what you're claiming they did?

GHS? GPD? What did YOU do to prevent this, knowing that Vincent had a problem long before this Boy took his own life. You knoew and promptly swept it under the rug, just like you do everything else.

So the school or PD would just sit by and let this happen than sweep it under some rug? There's no way you'll post any fact to back that up but as his "neighbor" what did you do to prevent this? Seriously now, if you knew and did something I'd congratulate you but if his problems were so well known what did you do as a neighbor? Did you talk to anyone from GHS or GPD? If not, why not?

Individual officers were up on Colby, one was up there for hours looking. Since you've already showed with your idiotic "Oakleys" comment, along with others, that you don't care for the PD why should anyone talk your comments for more than what they obviously are, baseless and ridiculous.
Enough people have complimented the PD to realize you're in the minority, sounds like you don't like anything about this city though. Must be tough living her for you, it's such a bad place.

I'm sure it's not the first time you've posted that type of stupidity about the PD and I'm sure it won't be the last. I'll also bet it's you that's on your work computer, not me.
Cat Spray

Rowland Heights, CA

#17 Sep 16, 2009
What ever upset the "truth is" poster?

Get over it you loser~!
Truth Is

Diamond Bar, CA

#19 Sep 16, 2009
I won't sit here and debate a guy with an obvious agenda and another that's a dimwit.

This thread asks if there's a drug problem at GHS. The answer is of course, just like any high school. What to do about it is the only thing people should be talking about.

Putting all the finger pointing aside, DARE apparently has been restructured and is apparently getting its message across better than it used to.(See the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation Website for further information))

No program itself though can or should be the only method to reach the student populations regarding the danger of drug or alcohol abuse. The first line of prevention, in my opinion, should always be the parents and other family members or friends with reinforcement by school, clergy, city programs and law enforcement. Some parents though can't be counted on to do their job or be proper role models, it's sad but a fact.

It would also be hard to believe a tragedy such as the one that just took place in Glendora won't happen again here or in some neighboring town. As a poster pointed out to me kids aren't going to bring to the attention of some adult that a friend might be in need due to the fear of getting in trouble themselves or because they think nothing will happen in the long run.

All adults can be is vigilant and like with any other serious issue reinforce the positive behavior expected of their children and the negatives of any type of abuse. Calling a parent, law enforcement official or teacher anonymously is something I wish more young people would consider when they know someone needs some type of intervention, most times they're the first ones that know.
GLENDORA DAD

Covina, CA

#20 Sep 16, 2009
My, you're a bitter little fella, aren't you?

Thus far as you're flailing away at me, all you've really done is put words into my mouth. Please show me where you got the idea from ME that "A kid having personal problems is automatically someone who comes under their sphere of investigation". Or, where I said anything about knowing the childs issues prior to his going missing?

Next, as a neighbor I guess you'll tell me I SHOULD know... I said I was his neighbor, I never said anything about knowing him. His family lives eleven doors down. I pass their house a couple of times a day, we nod at each other, etc... Now it's my fault for not getting involved? Do you have any idea how hysterical you sound?

Again, this thread isn't ABOUT Vincent, so why do you keep bringing it up? Yes, I came out hot and heavy on the matter in another thread, so why don't you quit following me around and go back to that thread to post your rhetoric.

I don't know why I feel compelled to even reply to your hogwash, but let me give you a little more back ground on why I posted angrily Saturday. I first heard of Vincent's issues when he went missing. None of my kids are of his age or social group, yet the whole neighborhood (my kid's friends included) was buzzing about it within a day. I know people who gave information to the Police and they were all of the opinion that the PD was simply going through the motions and thought the kid was out partying and would get hungry and come home soon. I heard that over and over.

You're blowing a lot of hot air over things you THINK I said, but I have to guess you're just listening to the little voices in your head.

Now I'm making things up too? Excuse me? So, you're not with the City (currently) in a paid, elected or appointed position? Were you ever? I have a very hard time believing that the PD keeps you posted about their investigations as "Joe Citizen". Who is this really? Richard? Culver? Art? C'mon... Or, are you just making things up like you accuse me of?

You just said that you "won't sit here and argue with a guy with an obvious agenda"? That's all you HAVE done. You say people should be suggesting solutions... What's YOUR'S? Let me guess... for me to go away, right?

By the way, thank you for playing right into a comment of mine on an earlier thread. Here, I copied it for you...
GLENDORA DAD
Baldwin Park, CA
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Monday Shaking my head -
Shouting it from the street corner does no good. They just throw the whole rug over you rather than try to sweep you under it. The tables turn and the "Good Old boys" as they were called a decade ago are suddenly attacking YOU, doing their best to wear you down to the point that you give up. Been there, done that... "

Ring a bell? Hmmm, is it me, or is that EXACTLY what you're doing right now? LMAO

Fact is, you've asked me a number of questions and I've answered. Not what you were expecting, huh? YOU on the other hand never manage to answer ANY of mine (other than not being with the City, which I still take as a 1/2 truth if it's true at all) which is EXACTLY what I expected from you. Turn the tables, put a few more words into my mouth and take another shot. Very nice. Very typical too.

On that note, I have more productive things to do with my time than predict what you'll say next. It's too easy any way. Again, been there, done that. Why don't you and I just sit back and let the thread get back on topic. We'll call it a draw... Naw, you win, how's that? You kicked my butt up and down the bandwidth of this forum and I give up. Go ahead and take one more poke at me, then just go away.

By the way, When's the last time YOU had a kid in GHS?
Dave Snyder-Glendora

La Quinta, CA

#22 Sep 16, 2009
I'm just glad my daughter's at St. Lucy's after reading all this!

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