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Billy

Dallas, TX

#1 Jun 17, 2009
Does anyone have any information on the old Biltmore that was torn down when the Biltmore Plaza (were Chucks Boots is) was built.

Last I remember in the 70's was that it turned into a banquet center.

I have heard numerous claims of it being an illegal mob gambling location with the tall tower used for an armed lookout.

I am looking for accurate historical information and pictures if anyone has them
Kentucky Woman

Campbellsville, KY

#2 Jun 17, 2009
OMG..I forgot about this place.I went there one night to hear some guy sing some Eddy Money songs. It was in the late 70's. I remember hearing about some famous mobsters being there.If I find anything I will let you know..Thanks for the memory.
Kentucky Woman

Campbellsville, KY

#3 Jun 17, 2009
Billy, I just found a poker chip on E-bay from the Biltmore.I'm going to keep looking.
not reliable info

Saint Louis, MO

#4 Jun 18, 2009
The Biltmore opened
its doors in 1929 as a casino for the elite but carried a notorious reputation of being a “speak easy”
operated by friends of well-known gangsters. It was raided often and is rumored to have been
frequented by famous gangster, Al Capone. At one time, the Biltmore was owned by Capone’s friend
Harry E. Belford (a.k.a. Hickory Slim). Belford testified in Al Capone’s defense during the famous tax
fraud trial that sent Capone to prison. The Biltmore conducted shady operations until 1939 when its
doors were closed. In 1951, it reopened as a supper club and later, a nightclub catering to a younger
crowd. In 1979, the Biltmore was destroyed by fire.

Info from http://www.paranormaltaskforce.com/meramecman...
Shalimar

Pevely, MO

#5 Oct 24, 2010
I have information about the "Biltmore Nightclub"....please feal free to post questions and I will try to answer.......
Angie

Covington, LA

#6 Jan 7, 2011
I would love to see any pictures of the old club. I used to live by there and heard music there in the 70s. Thanks. Also, does anyone know if there's a connection to the old Tichenor house and the Biltmore?
Dirk

Covington, LA

#7 Jan 9, 2011
Angie wrote:
I would love to see any pictures of the old club. I used to live by there and heard music there in the 70s. Thanks. Also, does anyone know if there's a connection to the old Tichenor house and the Biltmore?
Angie...My wife and i were Doc's neighbors since the late 1980s. As you may be aware, Doc and Latisha both passed away. We still own the "front" house. When we bought the house from Doc's nurse's family he was living in a smaller house in back (the property was divided in the 1960's). we heard rumors that the front house was connected to the Biltmore, but we have not been able to substantiate it.
Kevin Monzyk

United States

#8 Jan 14, 2011
Shalimar wrote:
I have information about the "Biltmore Nightclub"....please feal free to post questions and I will try to answer.......
I used to be in a band called Hot Shot that played at the Biltmore in 1979. I'm helping a guy add content to a St. Louis Yesteryears band site. We'd like some factual info on the Biltmore and any pics if you have them. Here's the link to the site. http://www.stlmusicyesterdays.com/
old guy

United States

#9 Mar 10, 2011
I played there often with 96 PROOF in the 70's. We paid for our PA playing there.The last time we played there, Saturday night, we finished, packed up all of our equipment and left.Monday morning I was late for work because of all of the emergency vehicles tending to the fire that burned the place down. It was ashamed that was a cool place. would love Photos of those days, I have a few
Angie

United States

#10 Mar 12, 2011
old guy wrote:
I played there often with 96 PROOF in the 70's. We paid for our PA playing there.The last time we played there, Saturday night, we finished, packed up all of our equipment and left.Monday morning I was late for work because of all of the emergency vehicles tending to the fire that burned the place down. It was ashamed that was a cool place. would love Photos of those days, I have a few
Would love to see the pictures. Please post.
Jeff

Saint Louis, MO

#11 Mar 25, 2011
I was driving to work also and saw it burn. Fire guys said they could see oil or gas in the water run-off as they tried to put it out. It had two gun towers which were manned during prohibition, gambling etc. It had two large ball rooms as you entered. I don't think Capone had anything to do with it. He had trouble taking over missouri and southern Ill. rackets. He referred to the St. Louis organized crime familys as Cockcoo Gang because they were crazy. this was the syrian/lebonese side of the mob. Capone did finally take St Louis and southern Ill. so maby he did have some time spent there. Being an all wood structure the Old Lady really burned. It was around 5am when no one was there. jhutch54@msn.com
Elizabeth

Saint Louis, MO

#12 May 1, 2011
Billy wrote:
Does anyone have any information on the old Biltmore that was torn down when the Biltmore Plaza (were Chucks Boots is) was built.
Last I remember in the 70's was that it turned into a banquet center.
I have heard numerous claims of it being an illegal mob gambling location with the tall tower used for an armed lookout.
I am looking for accurate historical information and pictures if anyone has them
My great uncle was one of the original owners back in the late 1920s. He eventually owned the whole place. Upon his death in 1952, my grandmother and great aunt (his sisters) sold the place. I don't know to whom. When going through my aunt's things (my grandmother's daughter) in 2001, we found lots of memorabilia from the original Biltmore...poker chips, china, salt and pepper shakers. There was furniture in her home that was in the foyer of the Biltmore when it was opened. My sister has glass negatives from which she had prints made. It shows the original foyer with the furnishings and paintings that were in my aunt's home as well as the outside of the building. There were two turrets in which armed guards stood watch. The verbal history we were told about the place is that it was indeed a mob hangout.
Eileen

Fenton, MO

#13 May 1, 2011
To add to my sister's information on the Biltmore, I also have a hand written inventory list which was taken when our great uncle died. Included was several firearms including a sawed-off shotgun.
Kevin

United States

#14 May 2, 2011
If you have a picture of the outside of the place, I'd like to have a copy to put out on the St. Louis Rock History Site website.
Shalimar

Kearney, NE

#15 May 3, 2011
Elizabeth wrote:
<quoted text>
My great uncle was one of the original owners back in the late 1920s. He eventually owned the whole place. Upon his death in 1952, my grandmother and great aunt (his sisters) sold the place. I don't know to whom. When going through my aunt's things (my grandmother's daughter) in 2001, we found lots of memorabilia from the original Biltmore...poker chips, china, salt and pepper shakers. There was furniture in her home that was in the foyer of the Biltmore when it was opened. My sister has glass negatives from which she had prints made. It shows the original foyer with the furnishings and paintings that were in my aunt's home as well as the outside of the building. There were two turrets in which armed guards stood watch. The verbal history we were told about the place is that it was indeed a mob hangout.
..........Hello Elizabeth, It sounds like your relatives, sold the Builtmore to mine, Ed and Marie Campbell, I would love to email, and compare notes, I do have some pics....please let me know if we could do this....Thanks so much
Elizabeth

Saint Louis, MO

#16 May 4, 2011
Shalimar wrote:
<quoted text>..........Hello Elizabeth, It sounds like your relatives, sold the Builtmore to mine, Ed and Marie Campbell, I would love to email, and compare notes, I do have some pics....please let me know if we could do this....Thanks so much
My sister has all of the Biltmore stuff that we kept. We did not keep any of the larger furniture. I spoke to her and she is trying to figure out how to scan the pictures she had made from the negatives so that they can be emailed. The glass negatives are about 8" x 10" and were quite a find. None of us had ever seen a negative like this before. We do have a second cousin who is a generation older than my sister and me. Her mother and my grandmother (sisters) were the ones who inherited from their brother. I will have to call my cousin and see what her memories are of the Biltmore. She was actually old enough to have gone there. I was only there once...and that was in the late sixties on a date long after it had been sold by our family. If you would like to give me your email address, we can get in touch.
Shalimar

Kearney, NE

#17 May 4, 2011
Elizabeth wrote:
<quoted text>
My sister has all of the Biltmore stuff that we kept. We did not keep any of the larger furniture. I spoke to her and she is trying to figure out how to scan the pictures she had made from the negatives so that they can be emailed. The glass negatives are about 8" x 10" and were quite a find. None of us had ever seen a negative like this before. We do have a second cousin who is a generation older than my sister and me. Her mother and my grandmother (sisters) were the ones who inherited from their brother. I will have to call my cousin and see what her memories are of the Biltmore. She was actually old enough to have gone there. I was only there once...and that was in the late sixties on a date long after it had been sold by our family. If you would like to give me your email address, we can get in touch.
"Thanks so much for getting back to me so quick, I would love to talk with you, My mom worked as a hat check girl, and seamstress for the dancers.....in the 50's and 60's.....I basically grew up at the Biltmore, as she would sew during the day, and I was left to run around the place......I have wonderful memories, I would like to share.....My email address is ....JUSTHORSES247@YAHOO.COM... ....I would dearly love to hear anything anyone remembers, Ed and Marie Campbell have passed away, and I only have one conection to the place, which is thru their adopted daughter, who came in the picture after they had sold it...so she doesnt have any memories.....I will scan and send the pics that I have.....take care....
Chris Jones

Houston, TX

#18 Sep 3, 2011
My grandparents and their relatives used to tell a lot of stories about that place when I was growing up - not sure if they're true. One is that the place was built, literally with the St. Louis/Jefferson county line running through it - and that when Jeff county cops came, they moved the gambling to the St. Louis county side and vice versa - probably the same for drinking during prohibition.

I also remember hearing about a planned mob assassination - and one of them seeing a car with a lot of guys with guns coming down the road and them running to warn someone - I wish I remembered who. Whoever it was was able to get away. I was told there were some bullet holes in the building too - but don't know if anyone could verify it. My Grandmother is 102 and still living so I'll have to ask again and see if she still remembers.
Cindy in Missouri

United States

#19 Dec 3, 2011
I believe the county line did run down the middle. When I was in grade school my family lived in the farm house across the highway where that big nursing home is now. The county line divided the property, it made it hard for the school dist. to decide what county's school we would all go to.
DomB

Spring, TX

#20 Mar 14, 2012
Chris Jones wrote:
My grandparents and their relatives used to tell a lot of stories about that place when I was growing up - not sure if they're true. One is that the place was built, literally with the St. Louis/Jefferson county line running through it - and that when Jeff county cops came, they moved the gambling to the St. Louis county side and vice versa - probably the same for drinking during prohibition.
I also remember hearing about a planned mob assassination - and one of them seeing a car with a lot of guys with guns coming down the road and them running to warn someone - I wish I remembered who. Whoever it was was able to get away. I was told there were some bullet holes in the building too - but don't know if anyone could verify it. My Grandmother is 102 and still living so I'll have to ask again and see if she still remembers.
I heard the same story. As I was told it, the operators of the club had connections with both Jefferson County authorities and St Louis County authorities. As neither county would coordinate a raid with the other, the Biltmore got advanced notice of a pending police raid and simply moved the gaming table to one end of the hall in the "non-affected" county. This allowed the patrons to continue to party. I heard this when I was young in the mid to late 50's. So I can not confirm it to be true; nor when this would have occurred - prohibition era or later.... Would love to hear from some of the owners' relatives!

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