really

Glasgow, KY

#62 Nov 1, 2012
Gump wrote:
<quoted text>Dr. Marcol was a dear person, but apparently he was just thinking of himself when he committed suicide. Anyone with self respect for his love ones would not shoot himself dead in his home to be found by his loved ones. How do you think his wife and kids would think as they pass the area in there home where he killed himself. If he wanted to kill himself. Drive your car into a lake...
Maybe he could not get up and drive himself anywhere. That's why he was on medical leave, due to a debilitating disease. No, I don't condone the action of suicide, but until WE all walk in another mans shoes don't pass judgement. None of us on here know what we would or would not do until we are forced into that position. It's easy for me to say I would never commit suicide, but we don't know what we would ever do or not do until its US.
really

Glasgow, KY

#63 Nov 1, 2012
oh my wrote:
<quoted text>He wasn't able to work anymore anyways. I am sure that made him feel useless and less of a man. So, therefore his family had ALREADY lost their primary income!! Also, being a dr you know that he knew what was to come with his illness and he didnt want to endure this and the burden on his family to see that and to have to care for him!! He was used to being the caregiver/the provider! So, the contrary, I see it as he was trying to be unselfish and not wanting to burden his family that HE SEEN as he was no use to anymore, anyways! I however, do not agree with suicide and know it puts such a hurt/blame on families/friends but we have to be more empathetic and try to think of how he must have been feeling!! Just pray poeple, what is wrong with you? LOVE and PRAY for our community, his friends, and most importantly, his kids and wife!!!
Amen
Patient

Glasgow, KY

#64 Nov 1, 2012
Selfish: You have it all wrong. When a loved one is in pain and is suffering, with an inevitable passing away in the near future, it is SELFISH to want the person to continue to suffer. Keeping them with you through artificial means, even though they're suffering...THAT is selfish. As far as your judgment of this wonderful soul goes, remember: Judge not, lest ye be judged.
tru

Glasgow, KY

#65 Nov 1, 2012
Patient wrote:
Selfish: You have it all wrong. When a loved one is in pain and is suffering, with an inevitable passing away in the near future, it is SELFISH to want the person to continue to suffer. Keeping them with you through artificial means, even though they're suffering...THAT is selfish. As far as your judgment of this wonderful soul goes, remember: Judge not, lest ye be judged.
Agreed
anonymous

Glasgow, KY

#66 Nov 2, 2012
I heard he had ALS aka Lou Gerig's Disease, don't know if that was true or not, but that's just what I heard. So sorry for his family having to endure this.
Tax Payer

Glasgow, KY

#67 Nov 2, 2012
Patient wrote:
Selfish: You have it all wrong. When a loved one is in pain and is suffering, with an inevitable passing away in the near future, it is SELFISH to want the person to continue to suffer. Keeping them with you through artificial means, even though they're suffering...THAT is selfish. As far as your judgment of this wonderful soul goes, remember: Judge not, lest ye be judged.
I had a sister that die from cancer and it is rough. From what I understand on prior post. It wasn't looked down upon for the reason he killed himself, but how it was done. I never met Dr.Marcol and heard nothing but great things on the type of person he was. "Rest in Peace"
highschoolfriend

Rochester, MI

#68 Nov 2, 2012
I am a high school classmate of Bogdan's. He was always upbeat, bright, and of course, intelligent. What disease did he have? I am sure if it was terminal, he didn't want to prolong the pain. He would never do anything to jeopardize his family. That wasn't Bogdan. Please let me know what happened. Thanks
Selfish

Glasgow, KY

#69 Nov 2, 2012
Patient wrote:
Selfish: You have it all wrong. When a loved one is in pain and is suffering, with an inevitable passing away in the near future, it is SELFISH to want the person to continue to suffer. Keeping them with you through artificial means, even though they're suffering...THAT is selfish. As far as your judgment of this wonderful soul goes, remember: Judge not, lest ye be judged.
That's why there are DNRs and living wills. I didn't say anything about artifical means. I'm just saying that he could obviously still get around well on his own, why end it now? Why so close to the holidays and in such a violant manner? Do you think his family is going to have a thankful Thanksgiving or a merry Christmas when Daddy killed himself a month or two ago. Also, how is it selfish to want someone to live?
Rumors

Glasgow, KY

#70 Nov 2, 2012
Selfish wrote:
<quoted text>
That's why there are DNRs and living wills. I didn't say anything about artifical means. I'm just saying that he could obviously still get around well on his own, why end it now? Why so close to the holidays and in such a violant manner? Do you think his family is going to have a thankful Thanksgiving or a merry Christmas when Daddy killed himself a month or two ago. Also, how is it selfish to want someone to live?
To Selfish,
Have you done something to or against him that you shouldn't have? Is that your problem? You do have one, why not tell it and get it over with? You sound as if you know it all.
Selfish

Glasgow, KY

#71 Nov 2, 2012
I'm just defending my opinion. This is a public forum for opinions and everyone freaks out when someone has a differing thought. I have never had anything against Dr. Marcol or his family. He was a very nice man, his wife is very nice and the kids were always respectful when I met them. I voiced my opinion and got crap and religion thrown back at me so I felt the need to defend my statement. Everyone feels I'm judging him, I not. Nice, loving people do selfish things all the time. It's a flaw in human nature. I'm in no way saying that he wasn't a good man who loved his family. I'm just saying his actions were selfish. My opinion.
tell it like it is

Cave City, KY

#72 Nov 2, 2012
Selfish wrote:
I don't want to hurt anyone. I know what it feels like to lose a parent from illness. I also know what it feels like for that parent to fight with everything they have, though all the pain and misery, just so they can stay around for their family for as long as possible. I don't know what I would have done if my parent decided it was too much to handle. That's why I said it was a selfish act. It's devastating enough to lose your parent at a young age, but too have them take their own life. The emotional damage with never fully heal.
I lost my parent just a little while ago. He was very old and sick. Believe me, did not want to see him just lay around and be sick and be taken care of. I don't think he was selfish to take his life, he wanted to spare his family what he knew would be an inhumane way to live and die. But it's none of my business or yours.
What in the hell

Billings, MT

#73 Nov 2, 2012
Late stage disease symptoms

Difficulty swallowing and chewing make eating normally very difficult and increase the risk of choking or aspirating food into the lungs. In later stages of the disease, aspiration pneumonia and maintaining a healthy weight can become a significant problem and may require insertion of a feeding tube. As the diaphragm and intercostal muscles (rib cage) that support breathing weaken, measures of lung function such as forced vital capacity and inspiratory pressure diminish. In respiratory onset ALS, this may occur before significant limb weakness is apparent. External machines such as bilevel positive pressure ventilation (frequently referred to by the tradename BiPAP) are frequently used to support breathing, first at night, and later during the daytime as well. BiPAP is only a temporary remedy, however, and it is recommended that long before BiPAP stops being effective, patients should decide whether to have a tracheotomy and long term mechanical ventilation. At this point, some patients choose palliative hospice care. Most people with ALS die of respiratory failure or pneumonia.

Although respiratory support can ease problems with breathing and prolong survival, it does not affect the progression of ALS. Most people with ALS die from respiratory failure, usually within three to five years from the onset of symptoms. The median survival time from onset to death is around 39 months, and only 4% survive longer than 10 years.[5] The best-known person with ALS, Stephen Hawking, has lived with the disease for more than 50 years, though his is an unusual case.[6]
Sorry I would not wish my kids to see me on a vent for the rest of my life..... That man was in pain. And would die in pain
Eman Resu

Glasgow, KY

#74 Nov 2, 2012
Selfish wrote:
I'm just defending my opinion.... I'm just saying his actions were selfish. My opinion.
"I'm, I'm, I'm" ... "MY opinion."

Here's a thought. Putting so much more value on your own opinion than you do other people's feelings; is that not the very definition of selfishness?

Whether or not your intention was to upset anyone with your comments is completely irrelevant, as you knew there was a possibility that that was a possible outcome with such a sensitive subject. Yet you did it anyway.

"Let he who is without sin..."

Maybe think next time lest you put your foot in your mouth.
lynn

Glasgow, KY

#75 Nov 3, 2012
I knew a man that killed himself a couple years ago he called 911 and that is who found him instead of his family. I feel so sorry for his family my thoughts and prayers are with them.
D KELLEY

Worthington, KY

#76 Nov 3, 2012
DR MARCOL WAS MORE THEN A DOCTOR HE WAS A SPECIAL FRIEND TO ME AND MY FAMILY. WE'VE KNOWN HIM SINCE 1999 WHEN HE FOUND MY BLADDER CANCER AND ALSO FOUND THAT I ALSO HAD LUNG CANCER. HES BECOME PART OF OUR FAMILY AND HAS KEPT ME GOING; I'VE HAD NUMEROUS SURGEY'S ON MY BLADDER AND KEY-MOE TREATMENTS AND LAST TIME I SAW BO WAS SEPT 10TH AND HE TOLD MY WIFE AND I THAT HE HAD BEEN IN HOSPITAL AND NOT DOING SO WELL. I TOLD HIM TO STAY TUFF AND FILL FREE TO CALL ME ANYTIME FOR SUPPORT AS HE GAVE ME. I SPOKE TO HIM ACOUPLE OF WEEKS AGO . I KNOW HE HAD BEEN ILL FOR AWHILE AND ITS TRULY HARD TO DEAL WITH OR KNOW UNLESS YOU OR SOMEONE YOU KNOW/KNEW HAVE A ILLNESS AS SUCH. I UNDERSTAND HE'S KNOWN THIS FOR FEW YEARS NOW. MY FAMILY WAS TOLD BACK IN 1999 I WOULDN'T SEE 2000 AND WHAT A BLOW THAT WAS JUST AS DOC TOLD ME NOW I KNOW HOW YOU FELT WHEN I TOLD YOUR FAMILY THE NEWS. BECAUSE OF DR MARCOL AND THE ALMIGHTY GOD I'M STILL HERE . THANKS DOC; NOW YOUR UP THERE WATCHING OVER ALL OF US SHEARING YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND WITH NO MORE PAIN. DOC MY FAMILY AND I WILL MISS YOU THANKS FOR BEING THERE FOR US AND WISH I COULD OF HELPED YOU. GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AS YOU'VE BECOME PART OF OURS; YOU'LL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN LOVE AND MISS YA; THANKS AGAIN DOC.YOU SAID LAST VISIT AND THE END OF TIME THE ONLY THING STILL LIVING WOULD BE DINOSAURS'S AND THAT OLD SOB MEANING ME AND THEN LAUGHED. MY WIFE SAID SHE ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WOULD BE AREVERSAL OF DOC SEEING ME RATHER THEN US SEEING HIM. GOD BLESS YA DOC THANKS.
Lennyinfla

United States

#77 Nov 3, 2012
I knew him well as a patient and friend when he was in Fla. Talked at times after he moved. "Bo" was the best! The kind of guy you never forget.
Condolences to the family. RIP m' friend!
Who are we to judge

Glasgow, KY

#78 Nov 3, 2012
I personally did not know this DR. but I do know the pain you go thru while battling a disease of anykind. U get to the point that you dont want to live ( not because you have grocery shoppnig to do that you hate ) It is because your MIND is sick . We all want to live if we can live a somewhat peaceful. painless happy life . But no one wants to live when you are so sick physically or mentally ill that you are sadden because you woke up the next morning . Suicide sucks all the way around, but let me tell you from experience there comes a time that you cant think about anything but getting rid of the pain . As far as going to hell , God is a just loving God and I do think that if you are so sick physically or emotionally sick you are not in you the right frame of mind to weigh the pros and cons of suicide and God knows that , you will not be punished for doing the only thing you know of that will stop the pain . God knows us he knows our hearts and he knows our needs. May he rest peacefully in Gods arms free of pain and worry . God Bless his family
Who are we to judge

Glasgow, KY

#79 Nov 3, 2012
Selfish wrote:
<quoted text>
That's why there are DNRs and living wills. I didn't say anything about artifical means. I'm just saying that he could obviously still get around well on his own, why end it now? Why so close to the holidays and in such a violant manner? Do you think his family is going to have a thankful Thanksgiving or a merry Christmas when Daddy killed himself a month or two ago. Also, how is it selfish to want someone to live?
This man was SICK beyond our comprehension , we dont know how he was living or how he felt he opted to commit suicide because that was the only option his mind had. HE WAS IN NO FRAME OF MIND OF HOILDAYS FOR GOD SAKES . HE WAS SO SICK HE TOOK HIS LIFE ENOUGH SAID , I PRAY THAT THIS YEAR HIS FAMILY WILL BE ESPECIALLY THANKFUL BECAUSE THEIR DEAR LOVING FATHER IS NO LONGER SICK AND IN PAIN . My father died Nov 15 almost Thanksgiving missing him then hurts no more than missing him now . I think you prove your greatest love to someone more when youd rather see then gone than here on earth suffering .....
Andie Marcol

Tucker, GA

#80 Nov 25, 2012
Selfish wrote:
What happened was selfish and horrible. I feel sorry for his family. Once you have kids something as selfish as suicide is no longer an option. I don't care how sick you are. Now his kids are going to grow up without a father, his family is without their primary income and there won't even be life insurance to help them financally. There had to be some other way than to destroy his entire family.
My father, selfish? Don't you say such a damn thing about him or say that he destroyed our family. None of you have ANY idea what he was going through. His illness was not the single cause of this, and all I can do is respect his decision to not have to suffer anymore. He was everything to me, and I hate that he left me, but I can only be content with his peace.

I appreciate everyone else's kind words, and I am proud to see how many lives he touched. To everyone else with rude comments: Fuck off and keep to yourself since you obviously don't know a damn thing about us.
Mr Smith

Glasgow, KY

#81 Nov 26, 2012
Andie Marcol wrote:
<quoted text>
My father, selfish? Don't you say such a damn thing about him or say that he destroyed our family. None of you have ANY idea what he was going through. His illness was not the single cause of this, and all I can do is respect his decision to not have to suffer anymore. He was everything to me, and I hate that he left me, but I can only be content with his peace.
I appreciate everyone else's kind words, and I am proud to see how many lives he touched. To everyone else with rude comments: Fuck off and keep to yourself since you obviously don't know a damn thing about us.
Andie, I am so sorry people on this forum have used their mouths against your Dad. I was a patient of his and I want you and your family to know that I appreciated everything he did for me. My wife & I have kept all of you in prayer and hope and pray you all will heal with time and God's good grace.

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