Alaska glaciers got thicker this year

Alaska glaciers got thicker this year

There are 14 comments on the Connecticut Post story from Nov 6, 2008, titled Alaska glaciers got thicker this year. In it, Connecticut Post reports that:

Two hundred years of glacial shrinkage in Alaska, and then came the winter and summer of 2007-2008. Unusually large amounts of winter snow were followed by unusually chill temperatures in June, July and August.

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Bill C

Brooklyn, NY

#2 Nov 7, 2008
Al Gore...How do you explain this?
tdowen

Philadelphia, PA

#3 Nov 7, 2008
He has not had the opportunity to blow any of his "Hot Air" North of the Yukon this past year.

“WEATHER is not CLIMATE”

Since: Jun 08

Katy, TX

#4 Nov 7, 2008
You have to distinguish Weather from Climate.
MAG in NM

Newington, CT

#5 Nov 7, 2008
tdowen wrote:
He has not had the opportunity to blow any of his "Hot Air" North of the Yukon this past year.
Nah, it's because they sent Sarah Palin south to blow her hot air around down here.
tdowen

Philadelphia, PA

#6 Nov 7, 2008
MAG in NM wrote:
<quoted text>
Nah, it's because they sent Sarah Palin south to blow her hot air around down here.
Nah, she was gone for to short a time to have made any differance. It was definately the lack of Gore's big mouth!!

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#7 Nov 7, 2008
See, here's the thing: we know Al Gore didn't invent the Internet, but we can be pretty sure he made up global warming!

I have no respect for someone who tells me I need to reduce my carbon footprint, when he's flying from here to there and everywhere else in his private jet to tell us so.
Mr_Peepers

Elizabeth, NJ

#8 Nov 7, 2008
Bill C wrote:
Al Gore...How do you explain this?
This is a single year change. The climate change (global warming) that Al Gore and a vast majority of the scientific community talk about is the increase in average global temperature since humans have been able to make an impact (industrial revolution). So Alaska had one year where it was a little colder than it's been. It means nothing unless it keeps happening.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#9 Nov 7, 2008
Nacho Man wrote:
You have to distinguish Weather from Climate.
Correctly stated. But you should have mentioned the last climate change that began that we are a part of began before they say humans walked the earth. We might be contributing to it in various ways but even if we were still living in huts and caves, the Al Gores of the day would find a way to blame humans.

“WEATHER is not CLIMATE”

Since: Jun 08

Katy, TX

#10 Nov 7, 2008
Many things make for climate change. Sometimes rapid. Sometimes slow. Interpretation now is that there is an anthropogenic source for at least part of the current change.

Ultimately, it matters less what causes the current change than what we have to do to attempt to mitigate the change, or to cope with what is virtually unavoidable.

There have been many local climate changes seen within the course of human history. Sub-sahara, Morocco, Jordan being some of the most notable.

It doesn't matter if you believe Gore is right or wrong,and no, he was far, far from the first to talk about it. My first exposure to it from reasonable scientists with reasoned thought was back in the mid-80's. They noticed certian patterns and without attempting to associate it to a cause, started to draw people's attention to it. Most, including some who were my friends, are dead now.

Politicizing climate change is wrong. It doesn't matter if you believe a particular view or not. Your "belief" will not stop Pacific islands from being inundated. That is real. That is happening.

Is it man made? Yes, you can make that arguement. Is it fully man made? No, you can make that arguement as well. Does it matter? No.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#11 Nov 7, 2008
"Interpretation now is that there is an anthropogenic source for at least part of the current change."
As said, I can agree in part. But another camp is coming to understand in theory that oceanic movements and currents, displacing warm and cold currents and effecting wind currents is a major reason for climate change affecting weather in general from years to centuries to who knows how long.

“WEATHER is not CLIMATE”

Since: Jun 08

Katy, TX

#12 Nov 7, 2008
No Surprise wrote:
"Interpretation now is that there is an anthropogenic source for at least part of the current change."
As said, I can agree in part. But another camp is coming to understand in theory that oceanic movements and currents, displacing warm and cold currents and effecting wind currents is a major reason for climate change affecting weather in general from years to centuries to who knows how long.
I agree. That is some of the natural cycle thatis compounding the effect.
Chattanooga Choo Choo

Chattanooga, TN

#13 Nov 26, 2008
Carbon dioxide is not an air pollutant. It is plant food. All life on Earth depends on it. It is natural. It forms the bubbles in bread, champagne, and Coca-Cola. You breathe it out, and plants breathe it in. The Earth contains a lot of CO2, but the atmosphere contains so little that the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) rightly calls CO2 a “trace gas”. A scientific mystery is why the air does not hold more CO2 than it does. Half a billion years ago, there was almost 20 times today’s CO2 concentration.

Most farmers would prefer to grow crops under much-higher concentrations of CO2 than today’s 385 parts per million - less than 1/25 of 1 percent of the atmosphere. To feed the world, low CO2 concentration is not such a great idea. High concentrations are better, and they cause no harm.

“WEATHER is not CLIMATE”

Since: Jun 08

Katy, TX

#14 Nov 26, 2008
Wrong on nearly everything.

Everything is a pollutant if too much of it is present or if it is in the wrong place.

Natural does not mean healthy. It doesn't take much of a bad thing to have a bad result.

Yes, CO2 is a Trace Gas but that is only a label. You seem to assert that since it is only in the atmosphere in trace amounts that it can't possibly be bad. Radon is also a trace gas but it is harmful. Too much of anything is harmful.

There is no CO2 mystery 500 million years ago. Look up CO2 buffer. Figure out what a CO2 sink is. And how much life on land was there then? Not a heck of a lot of photosynthesis going on.

When you say higher concentrations are better, how high do you mean? You do realize that as concentration increases, the pH of rain will change right? That won't be all that harmless for today's vegitation.
Colorado Kid

Placerville, CO

#15 Dec 6, 2008
Stimulating the economy with massive new investments in “green” infrastructure seems to be a popular idea, and President-elect Obama has made it a centerpiece of his program. Will it work? No. Both Obama and congressional Democrats believe we can move to a new carbon-free future by “investing” in “green” technologies and infrastructure, while creating millions of new jobs.

Spending money on projects where costs exceed benefits simply to “create jobs” is a bad idea. Taking capital from productive uses and redeploying it to politically popular but nonproductive uses lowers productivity by paying those with “green jobs” more than their output is worth. It’s not welfare, it’s “greenfare.” This, by the way, was the make-work model followed during the Great Depression. It didn’t work then, and it won’t work now. These ideas aren’t new - they were thoroughly debunked 158 years ago by pioneering French economist Frederic Bastiat, who wrote about the “broken window fallacy.”

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