Justices to hear arguments on traffic cameras

Full story: Akron Beacon Journal

The Ohio Supreme Court will hear lawyers' arguments Sept. 18 in an Akron woman's challenge of automated traffic speed and red-light camera enforcement systems around the state.
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dundeel

Wadsworth, OH

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#21
Jul 5, 2007
 
to late to cry,its a done deal,contracts are signed and if akron bks out,they are -how do we say-lie-A-bull?hehe,mendenhall already knows this,but a show is a show....thanks mendenhall
Sue

Millersburg, OH

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#22
Jul 5, 2007
 
And to think it only took an attorney's wife to break the law to get this back into the limelight. Why do the Mendehalls think they are better than anyone else?
Brian

Cleveland, OH

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#23
Jul 6, 2007
 
The issue of making it civil and not giving points is not valid. If you look at the number of people who drive without valid licenses you would realize that the points don't matter to them. Let the cameras free up the police to do other things and just obey the speed limits.

“2nd BN 42nd FA - 15D10 Lance”

Since: May 07

Los Angeles, CA

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#24
Jul 6, 2007
 
The roaming cameras like they are using now in the school zones are more fair than the permanent cameras where the installer shortens the yellow light time so more tickets are given out.

People are going too fast on neighborhood streets where the speed limit is 20 to 35. This is very dangerious because there are people backing out of driveways, geting in and out of parked cars, children playing or not paying attention, just to name a few.
Boo-hoo-hoo

United States

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#25
Jul 6, 2007
 
Brittany wrote:
the cameras should be outlawed. i personally received one going 35 in a school zone practically minutes before the restriction would have ended.
Doesn't matter. You were speeding. And in a school zone. Way to go, moron. You deserved your speeding ticket. Freaking irresponsible crybaby.
Boo-hoo-hoo

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#26
Jul 6, 2007
 
Kris wrote:
I don't like the idea of the cameras because they are simply money making machines for poor cities.
"Poor cities"? Hey clueless...shut it. You do not know what you are talking about. Unless you wish to cite credible sources as it relates to NE Ohio and "poor cities."

If you aren't speeding, then you aren't going to get busted. The only people whining about it are the idiots with the lead foot.
Boo-hoo-hoo

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#27
Jul 6, 2007
 
Exasperated wrote:
Plus, if you can afford to blow $100 a pop (or whatever the ticket costs today - it can change) for every time you want to buzz through a school zone, where's the incentive to slow down?
The cost of their insurance would skyrocket as a result.
Jim

Williamsburg, KY

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#28
Jul 6, 2007
 
Bubba wrote:
Maybe you shouldn't have been speeding Brit. Won't someone please think of the children?
If they can't cross the street, run 'em over. Besides, they all get dropped off on school grounds from Mommy's minivan anyway.
Go mendenhall

Amelia, OH

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#29
Jul 7, 2007
 
Go Mendenhall!!! Most people would not invest the $$$ to challenge an $85 dollar ticket.... This is a pro bono gig for him since it is his wife. Salute!!
Disillusioned

Cuyahoga Falls, OH

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#30
Jul 9, 2007
 
Keep your eyes open wrote:
People of Barberton beware. Rumors is that the City of Barberton is about to drill a gas well on the Tuscora Park property. This is supposedly the same land that was sold to the hospital for "expansion". Does this appear to be expansion or were the people conned?
Excuse me, we are talking about the legalism of traffic cameras. How does your subject even remotely fit into our discussion?
mots

Richmond, VA

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#31
Jul 10, 2007
 
this is a money making machine, when was the last time a child was hit by a car in a school zone in akron ? not two blocks away but actualy in a school zone? yeah not in my lifetime, big brother is here you cant lend your car to anyone unless they give you 150 bucks to hold for 30 days until you get or dont get a ticket.
this is the politicians using the.....its for the chilllllldren scam to make money,then use it to buy your vote!
LilOne

Hyattsville, MD

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#32
Jul 10, 2007
 
mots wrote:
this is a money making machine, when was the last time a child was hit by a car in a school zone in akron ? not two blocks away but actualy in a school zone? yeah not in my lifetime, big brother is here you cant lend your car to anyone unless they give you 150 bucks to hold for 30 days until you get or dont get a ticket.
this is the politicians using the.....its for the chilllllldren scam to make money,then use it to buy your vote!
I agree with you totally....this is just a way for the city to make some cash. They get tickets...without hiring police officers. What a racket!!

I completely agree that all those speeding in school zones should be ticketed. But, hire a cop to do it. My guess is that he'll more than pay for his salary and benefits within the year...and it will be one fewer person on the unemployment line.

However, because the city doesn't really care about the speeding, or the cops....they use the cameras for a simple revenue stream. Typical.

“I'm as Mad as Hell...”

Since: Mar 07

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#33
Jul 10, 2007
 
Instead of cameras, I'd feel better about the city investing some of its apparent mad money into the replacement of our 100+ year old water mains. Just wait til one breaks on your street or in front of your drive. Only a matter of time.

Public safety (or cash-grab) vs. quality of life (public services). No contest, I suppose.
JLH

Ravenna, OH

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#34
Jul 10, 2007
 
I have to say I am for the cameras. I've been in 2 accidents, both caused from the other persons excessive speed. People just drive too fast and with too many distractions in their car. My brother is a prime example: He can drive, shift, drink, eat, smoke and talk on his cell all at the same time. Three accidents already, but thankfully none serious. Slow down people.
LilOne

Hyattsville, MD

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#35
Jul 10, 2007
 
Howard Beale Jr wrote:
Instead of cameras, I'd feel better about the city investing some of its apparent mad money into the replacement of our 100+ year old water mains. Just wait til one breaks on your street or in front of your drive. Only a matter of time.
Public safety (or cash-grab) vs. quality of life (public services). No contest, I suppose.
Replacing the water mains won't generate almost immediate, cost-free revenue. City's decision made.
Mikey

Cleveland, OH

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#36
Jul 19, 2007
 
Cameras are stupid. Why don't these cities invest their money where cameras are really needed? The corners that they KNOW drug dealers hang out at, near bar districts, near schools. Not for speeders. And how do these cameras know the extenuating circumstances? How do they kow you werent going to the hospital? going to pick up an ill friend? Maybe late for your wedding, all things a cop might give you off for.
Mikey

Cleveland, OH

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#37
Jul 19, 2007
 
Boo-hoo-hoo wrote:
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The cost of their insurance would skyrocket as a result.
Not quite. These don't go against your license as they dont know who the driver was so cant hold it against you.

“At least I'm housebroken.”

Since: Jun 07

Canton, OH

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#38
Jul 19, 2007
 
There are studies that show that red-light cameras do not reduce accidents. In fact, accidents actually go up at most of the intersections that have red-light cameras. See http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...

Fight fire with fire. Get yourself a TomTom GPS and you can download all of the red-light camera locations in the area. The GPS then alerts you when you are in the vicinity of one.
William J Sanek

Ashburn, VA

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#39
Aug 23, 2007
 
"Mobile" traffic cams are much more reminiscent of TYRANNY than law enforcement. I can see their use in school zones, senior citizen cross walks, and highway construction stretches, etc. But the "diabolical trickster" element to them is patently unconstitutional. It is more of a "spider" mentality than of a "fair and square" mentality. There's no mistaking. But the dollar-happy administrators of mis-managed cities have found in this a new inscrutable, impudent, ineffable, diabolical "shameless" means of milking the public. In Cleveland's law, the then mayor Jane Campbell's team, put in a clause that stated that certain "public notifications" must be made BEFORE the mobile traffic cams could operate in a given area. Umm... isn't that like ADMITTING that they were themselves suffering scruples/doubts about how ethical such a law is? By that alone, Cleveland's law is null. "They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - BEN FRANKLIN, 1759. HEIL CLEVELAND !
William J Sanek

Ashburn, VA

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#40
Aug 23, 2007
 
Outrage is dead because people expect the worst and live, subterranean-like, under that expectation.

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