Former Democratic official files for coroner post

A former state trooper who retired this year shortly after he was accused of hurling a racial slur during a bar fight is running for Macoupin County coroner. Full Story
TongaSailor

Benld, IL

#1 Dec 1, 2011
I Hope he Wins, get the coroners office out of the hands of the under Qualified casket salesmen. I tend to think it's a conflict of interest. What do you think ?
just wondering

Jerseyville, IL

#2 Dec 1, 2011
What does Snider know about being a coroner?
Mr Carlin

Carlinville, IL

#3 Feb 29, 2012
Please Tonga. Your tongue is stuck up Kenny's ass. Are you in that circle jerk just west of Springfield?
Mr Carlin

Carlinville, IL

#4 Feb 29, 2012
Tonga, I think that you are sleeping with Kenny.

You are probably in his group of bullies that get off on harassing people because you think that you are protected. Time will tell.
Triumph

Herrin, IL

#5 Mar 1, 2012
Macoupin County has had a funeral director as coroner since as far back as I can remember. Being a funeral director myself, I have to agree that it is a conflict of interest. I am not saying that Targhetta is a bad guy, but for the most part a funeral director will run for coroner only for the hope of getting more calls. As a deputy coroner a funeral director fits the bill but in all honesty the knowledge isnt there about complex investigations.
Macoupin Democrat

Gillespie, IL

#6 Mar 9, 2012
I think Tonga Sailor is Ken Snider. Check some other posts under other towns and other topics and see what you think. Triunph looks pretty suspicious also. Sounds just like Ken Snider. Tell me Triumph exactly why is a Funeral Director qualified to be a deputy but not the coroner. I want you to explain it as the funeral director you claim to be.
Macoupin Democrat

Gillespie, IL

#7 Mar 9, 2012
Also Triumph why is someone from Herrin following the coroner race in Macoupin County?
Triumph

Herrin, IL

#8 Mar 9, 2012
A deputy coroner in my eyes is serving in a reserve capacity when the coroner is off duty, out of town, etc. That being said, anyone with a fair background in investigation or post mortem familiarization (e.g. Police Officer, Funeral Director, etc.,) would be a viable candidate for deputy coroner. The coroner, is the one who has the final word, and I think the coroner should be one who has more knowledge that goes beyond the scope of what we learned in mortuary science class. It is more than thanatology, it is forensic science. I know some counties are hurting for someone to step up and take that role, and I am not knocking those without the extensive background who do try to be a public servant, but more times than none, a funeral director will look at the coroner's office from the standpoint as a means of getting more calls at their funeral home rather than investigating deaths. Sangamon County had a coroner with nearly no post mortem knowledge, she sent her deputies (many who were firefighters and etc) out on calls. Her pathologist was not very bright either. I look for Sangamon County to transition to an ME in the near future because of that debacle. My interest is that I grew up in Macoupin County and still have family that reside there. I don't think this Snider is a viable candidate either. Just saying.
Macoupin Democrat

Gillespie, IL

#9 Mar 10, 2012
I am still suspicious of you. You lay out the Ken Snider lines like you are either him or close to him. Most Coroners are Funeral directors and they usually have no competition in their area. Targhetta has no competitor to steal from and every Funeral Home is endorsing him. A deputy coroner is in fact the coroner when he works a case. He is making all decisions so if a Furneral Director is unfit to be the Coroner he is unfit to be a deputy. Targhetta is far more than just a Funeral Director. The Alton Telegraph documented him and says Targhetta is the "best trained Coroner in the entire Midwest". Targhetta has the top level of training that any Coroner can get. There are only 150 in the world , 9 in illinois who have this training level. When 911 hit a military jet was sent to pick up Targhetta the next day. No other planes could fly during that time. He was requested for help by the NY City Medical Examiner and worked in their office. He has 30 years experience and continues with education which is requirered. Those lecturers have world class experts and Targhetta not only attends he lectures at them across the country. Surprised you as a funeral director formerly from our county does not know any of this. Now you say Snider isn't viable either. What do you want? The Choices are Snider or Targhetta. Google both of these and compare them. Snider is unfit to be Coroner
Macoupin Democrat

Gillespie, IL

#10 Mar 10, 2012
Triumph you never talk about medical knowlege for Coroners Well over 80% of all coroner's cases are someone dropping over suddenly with no suspicion and no police involvement and even on all cases the Coroner needs medical knowlege. Targhetta has it Snider oes not. A Funeral Director should know this.id it just somehow slip tour mind. You should have bee taught this in your school
Triumph

Herrin, IL

#11 Mar 10, 2012
A funeral director does have medical knowledge, just not to the extent a medical professional would have. IT is the duty of the coroner to oversee each and every case that comes through the office, even if s/he was not present at the scene. Yes, the deputy will say "I think death occurred as a result of a cardiac event or etc.," but here is the data that I have collected and this is MY opinion. Mr. Targhetta may not have any direct competition in Brighton, but there are neighboring cities without funeral homes that are considered "fair game" to other funeral homes. Mr. Targhetta is on what is called a DMORT team, Disaster Mortuary Operational Response Team which several funeral directors are apart of. On 9/11 several DMORT team members were dispatched to NYC to help deal with the mass disaster and help transfer remains and assist with identification purposes. More from a mortuary standpoint than a coroner's office duty. A lot of coroners are not funeral directors in this day in age anymore. Check out Montgomery County, Madison County, Sangamon County...none of those surrounding counties have funeral directors serving as coroner. In all honesty though, those coroner's are not very well educated either. The training that you speak of is a 2 week Medicolegal training course usually held in Saint Louis. Not that it is not informative, but its still not enough in my view. That 80% of sudden deaths is all the more reason to have trained and educated eyes on the case. Again, I am not knocking Mr Targhetta, nor do I have anything personally against him, I am simply saying that a funeral director running for coroner whatever his background may be is a conflict of interest. To answer your question about most viability, I think Targhetta is a more viable candidate than Snider, all I am saying is that it is a conflict of interest.
Macoupin Democrat

Gillespie, IL

#12 Mar 10, 2012
Your first comment was that Funeral Directors usually want to be a Coroner to get more funeral business. What proof do you have of this or is it only an opinion which is worth nothing? If this were true a Funeral Director would be just as crooked as a Deputy. Why would anyone say their profession is full of crooks and if you feel that way why would you stay in it? Explain why every Funeral Home is endorsing Targhetta? If Snider offers so much as a Cop why is Targhetta endorsed by the entire Sheriff Dept., including the Sheriff, past Sheriff Chief Deputy,all Past Chief Deputies, the detectives past and present, every Chief of police in our County and our Former State's Attorney and Retired Circuit Judge? Snider has no training to be coroner, no medical training at all, is not certified as a lead homicide detective and has never served as a lead homicide detective in any death in our County and that same Judge does not remember him as ever testifing in any major way in any murder case in our County. Again what is your response to the Alton Telegraph calling Targhetta "the best trained Coroner in the Midwest"?
Triumph

Herrin, IL

#13 Mar 10, 2012
I am not saying that funeral directors are crooked (some are). What I am saying is that most generally there is an ulterior motive for most, because generally, depending on the size of the county the compensation is really low compared to other offices. Politics are politics, one politician will find leverage from another, and vice verse. And I am not accusing Targhetta of using this as leverage, this is not what I am saying. But I have been around funeral home owners enough to know that they want to have their finger on the "pulse" of whats going on as deaths are related in their county. A few years back, I interviewed at a funeral home in the central IL area, and one of the requirements from the present owner was that I become a deputy coroner. When I asked him why, he told me that it was good for his business. I have had a sour taste about it ever since, I just didnt feel it was right. Maybe Targhetta has been doing a good job hence his praise from the Telegraph, I am not saying he has not since Landers left, I am not saying that I am right and you wrong, again, I am simply saying that I believe it to be a conflict of interest. If I were living in Macoupin County and a registered voter therein, I would vote for Targhetta over Snider, just for the simple fact that Snider has been noted on several unprofessional instances, like that business at the tavern.
Macoupin Democrat

Gillespie, IL

#14 Mar 11, 2012
Triumph your last post makes no sense with the leverage issue. You say that you are not saying Funeral Director Coroners are not crooks and then go on to say most have an "ulterior motive" which is to steer Funerals using their position. That is both unethical and illegal as a funeral director and a coroner. Again that would apply to both the Coroner and the deputy so you never answer why you support Funeral Directors as Deputies. You come on this dicussion which starts out as an attack on Coroner Targhetta and post your original post and now you say that "maybe Targhetta is doing a good job" All of your posts come back as a to knock Mr. Targhetta in some way or another. You offer no specifics only general opinions on what you think about these issues.My opinion is that people don't change their nature. The way they live and their conduct will remain the same for everything throughout their lives.I know the Funeral Directors in Macoupin County. They including Brad targhetta are highly respected in their communities and set excellent examples that the rest of us including you need to strive to follow. Research Targhetta on the internet and see what you see. He is a role model in running his Funeral Home and serving as Coroner and has never compromised his ethics nor will he in the future.
not a politician

Belleville, IL

#15 Mar 11, 2012
Thank you for the comments Macoupin Democrat. I have read the comments for a while now and I must now put my $.02 worth in. I also know the funeral directors in Macoupin County. I have talked with several in the northern portion of the county. They ALL have said Mr Targhetta & his predecessor Mr Landers go out of their way to ensure no one is misrepresented. They are stealer individuals and Macoupin County is fortunate to have them. I only wish other counties could be this fortunate. Our world is better with them in it!

I also know Mr Targhetta has never lived in Jersey County as his opponent has stated. Shame on snider for dirty politics.

Thank you to Mr Targhetta for keeping his campaign clean. It is refreshing to see someone with his integrity and character NOT slinging mud and lies!

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