Are you in favor of legalizing mariju...

Are you in favor of legalizing marijuana?

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#1 Dec 4, 2012
Will it help cut down on crime? Why or why not?

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#2 Dec 4, 2012
It should be legal. It is not nearly as harmful as all those fcking pills the docs are drugging everybody with. It is not as harmful as alcohol.
It would also boost the US economy.
I think wit lower crime rates,everyone would be more mellow and they wouldn't be stealing for pill money if they could grow themselves some weed.
It helps overcome insomnia so people would be more rested.

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#3 Dec 4, 2012
Cookie_Parker wrote:
Will it help cut down on crime? Why or why not?
I don't have a problem with pot or others smoking it.
In fact,I love the smell of it.
Pot smoking can be like a pain killer,like narcs.
However,just like narcs,you can get addicted and when it comes to that then too much of it is not good.
Yes,pot smoking is relaxing and all that one mau but there is a downside.
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#5 Dec 4, 2012
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#6 Dec 4, 2012
Gary Coaldigger wrote:
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I don't have a problem with pot or others smoking it.
In fact,I love the smell of it.
Pot smoking can be like a pain killer,like narcs.
However,just like narcs,you can get addicted and when it comes to that then too much of it is not good.
Yes,pot smoking is relaxing and all that one mau but there is a downside.
But isn't there a downside to alcohol, too? Yet we allow that. I think that the feelings produced from marijuana are far less destructive than those produced by alcohol.

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#7 Dec 4, 2012
No Religion wrote:
From a personal reason I wouldn't care as I have had no interest in pot since the 70's and early 80's. It was most popular then as it became introduced more commonly to our country, as the intrigue of the new and illegal was the initial draw.
Pot has 3 primary negatives, but so do most foods and prescription meds, most things we ingest do. It causes many less problems than alcohol or other drugs. I've yet to see anyone get violent on pot alone. On the flip side it tends to lead to lack of motivation and physical inactivity in many.
Any time an illegal activity is legalized, it eliminates the crime element. You eliminate the middleman that is not paying taxes on their income and charging unreasonable prices as they now do. Neither is the quality regulated. It leads to other more harmful drugs being offered illegally.
If it was legalized for all, it would take even further advantage away from the pharmaceutical companies that own the Gov. as it is. It's use would not have to be designated as medicinal for pain relief.
Under Gov. control it could be taxed just as we do alcohol and tobacco. Those dollars would be spent on improving our schools, roads, employment opportunities, etc. opposed to being collected by mafia, undisciplined and unregulated druggies and hoods, and others that do not benefit the populous through their gains.
I'm thinking it also eliminates the crime element and the ability for private prisons to house less dangerous offenders, getting them to work for corporations for pennies a day.

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#8 Dec 4, 2012
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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But isn't there a downside to alcohol, too? Yet we allow that. I think that the feelings produced from marijuana are far less destructive than those produced by alcohol.
When it comes to drugs,alcohol and tobacco all of it has an equal downside to them no matter how great or small it is and all of them can damage your health and ruin lives if not destroy lives.

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#9 Dec 4, 2012
paganbirdkeeper666 wrote:
It should be legal. It is not nearly as harmful as all those fcking pills the docs are drugging everybody with. It is not as harmful as alcohol.
It would also boost the US economy.
I think wit lower crime rates,everyone would be more mellow and they wouldn't be stealing for pill money if they could grow themselves some weed.
It helps overcome insomnia so people would be more rested.
I agree Pagan

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#10 Dec 4, 2012
Gary Coaldigger wrote:
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When it comes to drugs,alcohol and tobacco all of it has an equal downside to them no matter how great or small it is and all of them can damage your health and ruin lives if not destroy lives.
That's true. Guess there's risk in "sin", huh?

Still, since alcohol is legal, and only those who abuse it suffer the consequences of being charged with crimes, shouldn't the same be for marijuana, too?>
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#13 Dec 4, 2012
No Religion wrote:
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One of the most harmful elements of pot is smoking it. Any smoke that is contained in the lungs is quite harmful. Although it doesn't contain other deadly chemicals as tobacco, the lungs were not made to house smoke of any sort. There are ways to make tinctures and ingest cannabis, but that can lead to other problems with some. Since the active ingredient, THC, can be extracted, it can be utilized in other manners although smoking is by far the most common means of getting high.
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Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) is the active chemical in cannabis and is one of the oldest hallucinogenic drugs known. There is evidence that cannabis extracts were used by the Chinese as a herbal remedy since the first century AD.
The cannabinoids are basically non-polar molecules, with low solubility in water, so they are normally self-administered by smoking. The volatilised fractions are inhaled as a vapour and give rise to a number of physiological effects. These effects depend very much upon the expectations and mood of the user, the quantity taken, and the possible presence of other drugs (such as alcohol) in the body. Generally people experience a pleasurable state of relaxation, with heightened sensory experiences of taste, sound and colour. Repeated experiments have failed to show any short term dangers, although it hasn't been proven to be 'safe' in the pharmacological sense either. THC is non-addictive and there are no withdrawal symptoms. However, one of the side-effects of its use is to make the user drowsy, with reduced concentration and short term memory.
Apart from the recreational uses and abuses, THC does have some medical uses. Its anti-emetic properties (inhibits vomiting) are particularly useful in the treatment of cancer patients on chemotherapy. Also, as THC increases the appetite and reduces the vomit response, it is starting to be used in the treatment of anorexia and other eating disorders.
http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/vchemlib/mim/bristol/t...
It is supposed to be bad for the lungs. As bad as alcohol is on the brain. Adding chemicals to it does enhance the experiences...but does a lot more damage, as well.

Then again, as you have mentioned, it does help with cancer patients and it helps a LOT better than Marinol ever did.

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#14 Dec 4, 2012
No Religion wrote:
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Yes. And I believe it should be regulated, sold, and taxed in a similar manner. Age limits with penalties. Penalties for driving under the influence as with alcohol. Approved license to sell. Stipulation of use such as in the workforce. Etc.
All good things to generate more taxes for this nation...I like it!! What a good way to get revenue.

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#15 Dec 4, 2012
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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That's true. Guess there's risk in "sin", huh?
Still, since alcohol is legal, and only those who abuse it suffer the consequences of being charged with crimes, shouldn't the same be for marijuana, too?>
Actually,at one time,and I'm pretty sure you know this,that alcohol specifically whiskey was used for medical purposes during surgeries or treatment from gunshot wounds and snakebites in the Old West days.
During Biblical times there were those who drank wine do to certain places being in a drought or low on water and during those times if you had a a filled water well it was like a goldmine and that well would sometimes have to be protected in some areas who owned the well.
Now,I may have this wrong about the pot but pot was used by the Indians during rituals and other Indian events.
With sin,I don't know where you're going with that because we all sin and I freely admit that I am a sinner and I sin everyday but when I do sin I'm not hurting anyone else..
I'm just a person who enjoys freedom but the freedoms that I enjoy comes with responsibility and when ever someone acts out irresponsibly within the confines of the freedoms they take for granted then that person or persons are just asking for trouble.
Its cool to have freedom but to abuse that freedom is not cool at all and sometimes comes with a price to pay.
TRUTH

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#16 Dec 4, 2012
drunks drivers kills...
pill heads kill and or steal
potheads...stay home, watch tv, and eat.
never will you hear of a pothead in a car wreck
if you do....there was something else to do with it
pills and or drinking...or whatever.
everyone should be ashamed of there selfs for not
doing something to get it legal..
shame shame on you
yes YOU !!!!!!!!!!

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#17 Dec 4, 2012
No Religion wrote:
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One of the most harmful elements of pot is smoking it. Any smoke that is contained in the lungs is quite harmful. Although it doesn't contain other deadly chemicals as tobacco, the lungs were not made to house smoke of any sort. There are ways to make tinctures and ingest cannabis, but that can lead to other problems with some. Since the active ingredient, THC, can be extracted, it can be utilized in other manners although smoking is by far the most common means of getting high.
~~~~~
Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) is the active chemical in cannabis and is one of the oldest hallucinogenic drugs known. There is evidence that cannabis extracts were used by the Chinese as a herbal remedy since the first century AD.
The cannabinoids are basically non-polar molecules, with low solubility in water, so they are normally self-administered by smoking. The volatilised fractions are inhaled as a vapour and give rise to a number of physiological effects. These effects depend very much upon the expectations and mood of the user, the quantity taken, and the possible presence of other drugs (such as alcohol) in the body. Generally people experience a pleasurable state of relaxation, with heightened sensory experiences of taste, sound and colour. Repeated experiments have failed to show any short term dangers, although it hasn't been proven to be 'safe' in the pharmacological sense either. THC is non-addictive and there are no withdrawal symptoms. However, one of the side-effects of its use is to make the user drowsy, with reduced concentration and short term memory.
Apart from the recreational uses and abuses, THC does have some medical uses. Its anti-emetic properties (inhibits vomiting) are particularly useful in the treatment of cancer patients on chemotherapy. Also, as THC increases the appetite and reduces the vomit response, it is starting to be used in the treatment of anorexia and other eating disorders.
http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/vchemlib/mim/bristol/t...
You don't have to smoke it. Pot can be baked into brownies and brewed into tea.
In the Netherlands it is semi-legal. It can be sold in small amounts at cafes and people are allowed to grow small amounts of it. It is illegal to carry pot around with you. It has to be smoked/drank/or eaten at the cafes or at home. It boosted the Dutch economy and the stats for drug addiction to hard drugs is much lower there than it is here.

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#18 Dec 4, 2012
Gary Coaldigger wrote:
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When it comes to drugs,alcohol and tobacco all of it has an equal downside to them no matter how great or small it is and all of them can damage your health and ruin lives if not destroy lives.
Alcohol and tobacco and prescription pain killers and psych drugs are a lot more harmful than pot.
Anything can become an addiction. There are people with eating disorders and sex addictions and hoarding addictions etc.

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#19 Dec 4, 2012
paganbirdkeeper666 wrote:
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Alcohol and tobacco and prescription pain killers and psych drugs are a lot more harmful than pot.
Anything can become an addiction. There are people with eating disorders and sex addictions and hoarding addictions etc.
I'm not talking about which is more harmful,A B C or D.
If you think like that then you're missing the point or else you are not taking the point serious enough.
I'm not against pot,I'm not against anyone who smokes pot,I like the smell of pot and even so I like the smell of a good cigar.
Both alcohol and pot can be good medicine but like all medicines,the use of alcohol and pot as well can be abused.
Whether pot becomes legalized in all states throughout the country or not still it will eventually pot smoking will be abused just like any narcotic drug.
for example...pro long abuse of pot smoking can cause impaired thinking,coordination difficulty,short term memory loss,traffic accidents and seizures.
It can also increase schizophrenia plus cause anxiety disorders,insomnia and possible AHAD.
Of course,these are all possibilities and it has been found in dome cases of pot abuse.

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#20 Dec 4, 2012
typu = some cases

Damn small keyboard,

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#21 Dec 4, 2012
Gary Coaldigger wrote:
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I'm not talking about which is more harmful,A B C or D.
If you think like that then you're missing the point or else you are not taking the point serious enough.
I'm not against pot,I'm not against anyone who smokes pot,I like the smell of pot and even so I like the smell of a good cigar.
Both alcohol and pot can be good medicine but like all medicines,the use of alcohol and pot as well can be abused.
Whether pot becomes legalized in all states throughout the country or not still it will eventually pot smoking will be abused just like any narcotic drug.
for example...pro long abuse of pot smoking can cause impaired thinking,coordination difficulty,short term memory loss,traffic accidents and seizures.
It can also increase schizophrenia plus cause anxiety disorders,insomnia and possible AHAD.
Of course,these are all possibilities and it has been found in dome cases of pot abuse.
I realize that. I was only saying that pot is the least harmful of all controlled substances.
There is not anything,that doesn't negatively affect certain people. Those people will either have to abstain from using or suffer the consequences of their stupidity.
Betty Boop

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#22 Dec 16, 2012
NO WAY!

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