The Bible Is Your Infallible Authority

FDG

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#21 Jan 16, 2013
AtsRight wrote:
<quoted text> Congratulations. I'm so happy for you.
Thank you so much!
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I imagine it must be comforting to have everything figured out and to constantly be at peace the way you say you are.
It is. Isn't reality amazing?!
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I'm not really trying to debate any issue with anyone because the bottom line is I don't care what you believe.
Then why even take the time to post? Isn't that what this site is for; to debate ideas?
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I've just noticed a trend where almost every time someone mentions God in a thread, it seems to me there are some that become offended or at least argumentative.
I didn't realize a news based website had anything to do with religion. Again, when a topic is brought up, isn't this site designed to debate the ideas that are expressed?
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I think I understand why but I doubt that the folks I'm speaking of would agree with my assessment.
No we would not. You need to rethink your understanding because it isn't correct.
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Unlike some people, it doesn't bother me for other to disagree with my views.
Amazing how that happens when no one is trying to force legal change on you, isn't it?
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I'd end by saying "Have a good day", however, I'm sure that you already have a good day every day just like you have peace every day as you said in another post.
Right you are!
It's good to be right once in a while.
I hope the gods listen to you today and provide you with a great day as well. ;)
AtsRight

Advance, NC

#22 Jan 16, 2013
FDG wrote:
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Thank you so much!
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It is. Isn't reality amazing?!
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Then why even take the time to post? Isn't that what this site is for; to debate ideas?
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I didn't realize a news based website had anything to do with religion. Again, when a topic is brought up, isn't this site designed to debate the ideas that are expressed?
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No we would not. You need to rethink your understanding because it isn't correct.
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Amazing how that happens when no one is trying to force legal change on you, isn't it?
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Right you are!
It's good to be right once in a while.
I hope the gods listen to you today and provide you with a great day as well. ;)
You don't know what my understanding is, so you surely don't know if it is correct or incorrect. You seem to judge the correctness of an issue by whether you agree with it or not. That's your problem, you try to project yourself as a know it all. This site may be to debate sometimes but you inject a debate where there is none. This was merely a few believers in Jesus Christ communicating with one another. But something in you didn't like that much and you had to berate them. Make your mind up, you've said this site is to debate and then you say it's a news based site. Which is it? For arrogant know it all's it's seems to be anything they want it to be. I'm sure that to the vast majority reading this, your views and your arrogant opinions mean as much to us as our's do to you. Get the point? Go start your own thread and see if those folks berate you like your arrogant butt did them. It's amazing how you manage to be so peaceful and happy as you claim when all this legal change is being forced on you. Say what you want but you sound like a miserable, self-centered, narrow minded individual. I'm going to refrain from wasting my time by "debating" with you. You're a waste of time, not because of your beliefs, but because of your attitude. I have no problem with another's beliefs but an attitude such as yours sucks. So, Mr. Einstein, use your superior intelligence and reply with something brilliant that you know will chaff my butt and feel good about yourself for telling a peon like me how it really is in the world.(You would anyway because you obviously have no self control) I'll not read it but everyone else who does will be in awe of your genius. Enjoy getting the last word in feeling like you've won a big debate. I say that in response to your words, " It's good to be right once in a while." Yes it is, it's also good for a loser to win once in a while? You should know. P.S. May your life turn out exactly like the russian prick you quoted yesterday.

FDG

“Have facts, will travel!”

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#23 Jan 16, 2013
AtsRight wrote:
<quoted text> You don't know what my understanding is, so you surely don't know if it is correct or incorrect.
Not to an exact extent, but one can deduce from your demeanor the direction you were going with that comment.
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You seem to judge the correctness of an issue by whether you agree with it or not.
I judge it based on whether it can be supported by factual evidence which is the correct way to judge something. Sorry, but no there is no place for conjecture or dogma here.
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That's your problem, you try to project yourself as a know it all.
No, that is YOUR problem. You can't argue the validity of factual statements. They simply are. I am sorry that you ignore that.
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This site may be to debate sometimes but you inject a debate where there is none.
Someone has to get the ball rolling. If no one ever did that, then no debates would ever exist. Thought you knew that.
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This was merely a few believers in Jesus Christ communicating with one another.
Oh, I'm sorry. I thought I was on Topix.com , not Jesus.com . If you don't like hearing contrasting views, then perhaps you should post on a website that panders to a specific view; I don't know, say a religious website.
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But something in you didn't like that much and you had to berate them.
I am sorry that you feel a contrasting viewpoint, supported by logic and FACTS is a form of belittlement.
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Make your mind up, you've said this site is to debate and then you say it's a news based site. Which is it?
It is definately a news based site in which one can debate those issues. No where does it mention that this is a Christian website and that those ideas are off limits.
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For arrogant know it all's it's seems to be anything they want it to be.
I agree. That is why I am here to set them straight.
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I'm sure that to the vast majority reading this, your views and your arrogant opinions mean as much to us as our's do to you.
Science, Logic, Reason, and Reality doesn't give two shits about yours or anyone else's beliefs.

FDG

“Have facts, will travel!”

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#24 Jan 16, 2013
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Go start your own thread and see if those folks berate you like your arrogant butt did them.
Why would I start a thread about religion? This site is few news, not fiction.
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It's amazing how you manage to be so peaceful and happy as you claim when all this legal change is being forced on you.
It's amazing what reality will do for you, isn't it. You know, when you aren't wasting time praying to make believe gods and fighting imaginary wars against your beliefs. Living a non-delusional life has MANY benefits.
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Say what you want but you sound like a miserable, self-centered, narrow minded individual.
I always say what I want and you are simply wrong.
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I'm going to refrain from wasting my time by "debating" with you.
Too late.
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So, Mr. Einstein, use your superior intelligence and reply with something brilliant that you know will chaff my butt and feel good about yourself for telling a peon like me how it really is in the world.
I already have.*See previous text*
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I'll not read it but everyone else who does will be in awe of your genius.
Yes you will.
Do you think this is the first time I have dealt with your type? You don't like the facts or the logic that is being used to support my side in this case, so instead of providing a counter argument, you simply attack me instead of the issues. You are a dime a dozen.
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Enjoy getting the last word in feeling like you've won a big debate.
I SLAUGHTERED you in this debate. Once you strayed away from the facts and started the character assassination, it was all over. You loudly admitted defeat and hung your head accordingly. It's ok. Like I said, you are not the first to succumb to this. There have been many before you and you won't be the last.
PS: In response to Isaac Asimov. You said, "May your life turn out exactly like the russian prick you quoted yesterday." The man died from a heart attack which was cause by HIV that he got from a blood transfussion. This is what you wish upon me? I certainly did get under your skin didn't I? What a good Christian you are. It didn't take long for you show your true colors, did it?
I wish you nothing but the best in life.
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FDG

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#26 Jan 17, 2013
Dragula the Terrible wrote:
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If God wants everyone to believe in him, then he should appear in person, and not do a disappearing act.
"When we landed on the moon, that was the point where God should have come up and said hello. Because if you invent some creatures, put them on the blue one and they make it to the grey one, you f*ckin' turn up and say "Well done."
--Eddie Izzard - Live at Madison Square Garden
LTT

Charleston, WV

#27 Jan 17, 2013
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I am not trying to prove that gods don't exist. That responsibility doesn't fall upon me. You can't prove a negative. The proof that a god exists lies upon the person making the affirmative statement, which in this case, would be you.
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This is only one of MANY MANY reasons I don't believe in any of the gods. This is just the tip of the iceburg Atheists don't worship your chosen god.
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Science hasn't found the answer to what? I am not sure what you are referring to here.
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You mean like you did earlier in a previous post? I quote you here as saying, "...He created the Universe and all that exist within the inner and outer boundaries of it's amazing size. Scientist can't even get a true measurement on it. This in itself tells us there is definitely a supernatural force behind even all the Scientific studies abroad the world." You are saying here that scientists can't provide evidence, so your god has to be the proof. Ahem...in your own words, WRONG. Don't be a hypocrite.
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A more reasonable and logical assessment would be until religions slowly fade away as we become a more rational and reality based society.
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There are many religious texts that can claim that very thing, with many being MUCH MUCH older than the Bible. Do you ever question whether those religions may be in ownership of the one true god? Why not?
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So, you don't find it the least bit interesting that if you were born in the middle east you would be a Muslim? That none of your beliefs now would matter at all and you would have the same exact feelings toward the Quran instead of the Bible? Don't you find the slightest bit of flaw in a system in which gods are not chosen on their validity, but rather than the geography in which you were born? These are things you have to honestly answer, and if you don't, you are only cheating yourself.
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I have peace everyday. I find it sad that you need an outside source of strength to make it through your daily routine instead of embracing reality and living this life, the only life you are truly guaranteed, to it's fullest. I hope that someday you truly will ask yourself the hard questions and answer them honestly.
Please excuse me while I briefly cut in on your conversation. No offense intended--but you remind me of a poster I used to talk to a long time ago on another forum. He was an athiest. He came off as if he were one of the smartest posters on the forum. Yet, most of the time he posted, he practically negated himself, and basically "stuck his foot in his 'mouth'" all the time. He'd even negate his own comments--on a regular basis, at that.
1. You say "you are not trying to prove that gods don't exist," yet, that's the purpose of your writing your comments on this subject. If you're not trying to prove that gods don't exist, then, you must not have a problem if they do exist. You said, "You can't prove a negative." How do you know? Perhaps there's information above what you know. Can you agree that there's information that you don't yet know, or do you know everything there is to know already? If you know everything there is to know already, then you have no need to seek further and find out whether there is/is not a god or a God. If you don't know there is a god/or a God, then I'd say the burden of proof is on you as well. After all, we each answer for our own selves to God. You can't blame Science if it turns out that God exists, because Science is made of mostly theories and hypotheses, until someone comes along and finds information to disprove them. Perhaps Science has not yet come up with it's own explanation for God yet. Or, has it? Some scientists who were previously athiests, have come to the conclusion that there must be a God. There would be no way out of "all this" just coming to be--and there would have to be a loving and intelligent Designer Who put it all together--and holds it there.
LTT

Charleston, WV

#28 Jan 17, 2013
FDG wrote:
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I am not trying to prove that gods don't exist. That responsibility doesn't fall upon me. You can't prove a negative. The proof that a god exists lies upon the person making the affirmative statement, which in this case, would be you.
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This is only one of MANY MANY reasons I don't believe in any of the gods. This is just the tip of the iceburg Atheists don't worship your chosen god.
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Science hasn't found the answer to what? I am not sure what you are referring to here.
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You mean like you did earlier in a previous post? I quote you here as saying, "...He created the Universe and all that exist within the inner and outer boundaries of it's amazing size. Scientist can't even get a true measurement on it. This in itself tells us there is definitely a supernatural force behind even all the Scientific studies abroad the world." You are saying here that scientists can't provide evidence, so your god has to be the proof. Ahem...in your own words, WRONG. Don't be a hypocrite.
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A more reasonable and logical assessment would be until religions slowly fade away as we become a more rational and reality based society.
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There are many religious texts that can claim that very thing, with many being MUCH MUCH older than the Bible. Do you ever question whether those religions may be in ownership of the one true god? Why not?
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So, you don't find it the least bit interesting that if you were born in the middle east you would be a Muslim? That none of your beliefs now would matter at all and you would have the same exact feelings toward the Quran instead of the Bible? Don't you find the slightest bit of flaw in a system in which gods are not chosen on their validity, but rather than the geography in which you were born? These are things you have to honestly answer, and if you don't, you are only cheating yourself.
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I have peace everyday. I find it sad that you need an outside source of strength to make it through your daily routine instead of embracing reality and living this life, the only life you are truly guaranteed, to it's fullest. I hope that someday you truly will ask yourself the hard questions and answer them honestly.
2. What? Because you can't touch God or see God? Don't you know that if you can believe Him, there are too many times to mention all that you can feel Him. I'm not saying you, I'm saying or speaking of a person who does believe in Him. Now, as far as those other gods goes, yes, people can make a god just about out of anything. Two examples would be Science and Self. Can you see Science? Can you see or know about Self? Now, that's with the natural or physical senses. There is a spiritual, or a supernatural sense or dimension you are overlooking. Why is that? Do you think it's your flesh that has emotions, and such? Your flesh is the house of your spirit and soul. Is your earthly house one dimentional, or is there things in it passersby does not see or know about? True, they don't need to know what's in your house. Point is, there's things in there! Who sees? Who knows? If there was something in there that could benefit mankind in a wonderful and everlasting way, wouldn't you want to share it? That's how Jesus is, once He's "in the house" we feel like sharing Him. He's too good to keep to ourselves alone. He's a lifesaver. I want my friends and others to have a lifesaver, too. So, I tell and I show what's in my house--if it can benefit others so well. If I didn't share it, it'd be wrong with me to not throw out my lifesaver, say, in a rough, life-threatening sea, to help rescue someone else.
Thing is, who wants to reach out and take ahold of the lifesaver? If a person wants to believe my lifesaver didn't work, he/she would just refuse it--and would have the right to do so. On the other hand, if he/she thought the lifesaver could save him/her, he/she would reach out and take ahold of it.
LTT

Charleston, WV

#29 Jan 17, 2013
FDG wrote:
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"When we landed on the moon, that was the point where God should have come up and said hello. Because if you invent some creatures, put them on the blue one and they make it to the grey one, you f*ckin' turn up and say "Well done."
--Eddie Izzard - Live at Madison Square Garden
And one of those astronauts said, "There is no way that there could not be a God."

FDG

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#30 Jan 17, 2013
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1. You say "you are not trying to prove that gods don't exist," yet, that's the purpose of your writing your comments on this subject.
You are wrong. It is IMPOSSIBLE to prove a negative, so there is no way I could be doing that. What I AM doing is giving another perspective; one that has its roots in logic and reason instead of superstition and mythology.
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You said, "You can't prove a negative." How do you know?
Because that isn't how the world works. Science doesn't behave in that fashion.
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Perhaps there's information above what you know.
Of course there is, but not on the subject of proving a negative.
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Can you agree that there's information that you don't yet know, or do you know everything there is to know already?
I can agree to that. That can be said for every single person on Earth. I learn new things everyday.
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If you know everything there is to know already, then you have no need to seek further and find out whether there is/is not a god or a God.
I have all the information that is available on the subject of the Christian god and I have come to the conclusion, based on that information, that this particualar god does not exist.
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If you don't know there is a god/or a God, then I'd say the burden of proof is on you as well.
What affirmative claim am I making that requires proof? I am making no such claim, therefore no burden of proof lies on me.
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After all, we each answer for our own selves to God.
I do not.
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You can't blame Science if it turns out that God exists,
I'll have no one to blame but myself.
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because Science is made of mostly theories and hypotheses
Science is made up COMPLETELY of hypotheses, some of which become theories. This is what makes Science great and the most precise form of testing that we have to gain a better understanding of the world in which we live.
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Perhaps Science has not yet come up with it's own explanation for God yet.
Nor will it. Science deals in facts, not faith.
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Or, has it? Some scientists who were previously athiests, have come to the conclusion that there must be a God. There would be no way out of "all this" just coming to be--and there would have to be a loving and intelligent Designer Who put it all together--and holds it there.
Who? I am sure there may have been a Scientist somewhere that holds this belief, but it is by far not the norm. Over 90% of the National Academy of Sciences members are Atheist. We are talking about the most gifted Scientific minds in the world from all different backgrounds and countries. There is a reason for this.

Let me ask you this; do you believe in the Theory of Evolution?

FDG

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#31 Jan 17, 2013
LTT wrote:
<quoted text>And one of those astronauts said, "There is no way that there could not be a God."
That doesn't fit well with the joke.:)
LTT

Charleston, WV

#32 Jan 17, 2013
Joke? What joke? I had you a 3, 4, and up to 5 and 1/2, in answers, but the internet explorer didn't respond. That's that--until I redo them--and God's will--I will. I just won't put them all on the same post. Next time!
Look at post 30 #4 on your comment. That, within itself, is proof that you agree there are things you don't know about that you could consider true if you knew them, or knew about them.
You say you know all the information about God, or the God that I'm talking about. No, you don't! If you did, you'd know what He's like. You'd know about His love. You'd know that we reap what we sow.
You'd know enough to want to give your heart to Him and to love Him. Do you know this much about Him yet? If your answer is "no" then you don't know all there is to know about Him, therefore, could not prove that He is a myth.
LTT

Charleston, WV

#33 Jan 17, 2013
No, FDG, I don't believe in the theory of evolution. I don't believe that we have a common ancestor with apes. Do I believe that the fittest survive? In a way, but not like evolution calls it. Naturally, I believe healthier people and plants live longer, as opposed to the unhealthy ones. Unless---God heals---and God does heal. "With God all things are possible." I've been healed and seen healings before. If not for God, some people would not be here right now that's here.
LTT

Charleston, WV

#34 Jan 17, 2013
God works around the principles of evolution. God is greater than evolution or Science, and that's no offense toward anyone who works in that field. Thee's many people in that field who believes in God. They are They reason that there's more than the natural, physical--or what we can see with the natural, physical eye. There's a "spiritual eye" that can only "see in the spiritual" realm.
LTT

Charleston, WV

#35 Jan 17, 2013
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You are wrong. It is IMPOSSIBLE to prove a negative, so there is no way I could be doing that. What I AM doing is giving another perspective; one that has its roots in logic and reason instead of superstition and mythology.
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Every singletime I put a battery in, say a flashlight, that has a positive and a negative end, and I put it in wrong, it won't work. It just won't work! That's one way I can--and so can you--prove which end is positive and which end is negative.
Rh blood factors is another way a negative can be proven. Just do a simple blood test that's been designed for it (via Science via God's will) and Rh- or Rh+ blood can be detected.
A "Nagative-does-not-comput e" can be discovered and proven once reason finishes out the process, it naturally occurs at some given time, or by some test found to detect the "negative-does-not-comput e." One particular book in the OT even says God says to "test Him and see if He won't pour out a blessing."
FDG, God wants us to seek His face and to look for Him. He's there and He knows that if we come to Him with a sincere heart He will answer us.
You made a mention of something to do with other religions in other countries, like say, Muslims. Do you know that there are Christians in those countries who are being persecuted as I type this out? Asia and Africa are some places where it is becoming popular to persecute Christians. Some are having to leave their own countries to save their lives. Some are being martyred.
The Bible says if we suffer with Christ we will reign with Christ.
Now, one thing I want to add. You've done a lot of studying about God, according to what I've read about your comments. You've read possibly with the mind to disprove God, rahter than to find Him out. Am I correct? If so, don't let your mind look. Look with your heart. Our spirits are willing, but our flesh is weak.
Do you think it's the easiest thing in the world to be a Christian? No! It isn't! So, if God is not real, why would so many people cling to a God they aren't sure is real? Especially those people in those countries who are being persecuted and martyred. "We know in Whom we have believed." There's this relationship with God that the world cannot have until it has accepted Him in--that is--in the heart. Your ;understanding would be opened up. I hope God will call you and show you these things. I hope you will give Him a chance to. If you choose not to, that is your business. I for myself have chosen to because the evidence to me was just too obvious.
LTT

Charleston, WV

#36 Jan 18, 2013
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Science hasn't found the answer to what? I am not sure what you are referring to here.
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You mean like you did earlier in a previous post? I quote you here as saying, "...He created the Universe and all that exist within the inner and outer boundaries of it's amazing size. Scientist can't even get a true measurement on it. This in itself tells us there is definitely a supernatural force behind even all the Scientific studies abroad the world." You are saying here that scientists can't provide evidence, so your god has to be the proof. Ahem...in your own words, WRONG. Don't be a hypocrite.
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3. I don't have any problem with that first question. Science changes, sometimes. God never changes. He's the same yesterday, tomorrow, and today.

4.The Bible does say that the Earth is the Lord's, and the fulness theeof, the world, and they that dwell therein. That would include is all. It says also, "let everything that has breath praise Him." That's one reason why every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Some may not believe in Him now, but there is according to a time in the Bible, that they will have no choice but to believe Him. We will all have an encounter(s) with God one way or another. He'll either be plesed with how we have lived with Jesus or without Jesus.
Sure, Science can prove a lot of things. It doen'st mean they can disprove Jesus, or God. God can bring to light and prove all things. "Is the Creation greater than the Creator?" It can't be!
Science does not have to prove God in order for God to exist. In fact, it's God who leads man to find many remarkable finds in Science, such as medicines, etc. Jewish people are a people that prosper quite well in technology and many other fields. Why is that? It has to be the God who made them who also said they would be a blessing among the nations, or the nations would be blessed in them.
LTT

Charleston, WV

#37 Jan 18, 2013
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A more reasonable and logical assessment would be until religions slowly fade away as we become a more rational and reality based society.
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There are many religious texts that can claim that very thing, with many being MUCH MUCH older than the Bible. Do you ever question whether those religions may be in ownership of the one true god? Why not?
6 (I think). Here, whether you know it or not, is a perfect fantasy or idea for the One World Government, or the One World Religion. There will be a religion, and people will be forced to participate in it. All people! Would it really be reasonable to take people's identities from them? Yet, that's what's happening, even now. Cursive writing, someting that identifies an individual as one person unlike others, is even being taken out of the schools. People deserve to have identities of their own. We don't need to identify with others and be like others. We need to stand up and be ourselves--be who we are--and not what a system wants us to be--just another number, expected to do the same things as everyone else in the same ways.
"Slowly fade away," yes it would...as we blur our differences and become all alike. The problem with this is that there are religions that won't do this. People who know Jesus will not. Most likely, Muslims will not, because they insist on everyone being like them. If we don't accept their religion, they'd kill us if they could. We are being unarmed in this country, FDG, can you see that we could be forced to do what Big Bro wants us to do?
We would have to "blur" our differences, as the COEXIST movement, or Chrislam, the combining of Islam, Christianity, and I believe Judaism, would have us do. We would have to blur our differences by ignoring our doctrines and accepting, according to Islam, that Jesus was only a prophet who is going to come back and turn each believer to Allah, and tell them that the Cross was a lie. The Cross is not a lie. We would definitely have differences here. We wuld be in trouble with God. We can't explain away the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus and get away with it. Jesus will not tell us to turn to Islam and Allah. He is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and no man comes to the Father but by Him. This is not popular to say. I'm saying it because I undertand it.

7. Also, of those previous religions, the Bible says there is a way that seems right to a man. It says Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. It says there is no other name given under Heaven whereby we might be saved. Muslims would have a problem with this. So would other people who have many gods. We only need One God, because He is greater than anything. He can do all the things the other gods are asked to do.
They don't have that One true God because God has reached out to man through Jesus Christ, and through no other. The Law was not achievable, but Jesus is. "I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me." Jesus Christ is the One way God has reached down to man, to offer man so great a salvation. He is the Only One!
LTT

Charleston, WV

#38 Jan 18, 2013
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So, you don't find it the least bit interesting that if you were born in the middle east you would be a Muslim? That none of your beliefs now would matter at all and you would have the same exact feelings toward the Quran instead of the Bible? Don't you find the slightest bit of flaw in a system in which gods are not chosen on their validity, but rather than the geography in which you were born? These are things you have to honestly answer, and if you don't, you are only cheating yourself.
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I have peace everyday. I find it sad that you need an outside source of strength to make it through your daily routine instead of embracing reality and living this life, the only life you are truly guaranteed, to it's fullest. I hope that someday you truly will ask yourself the hard questions and answer them honestly.
7. There are an increasing amount of Christians in the Middle East. The problem is, they are not accept, therefore, they are being persecuted. Jesus can get past boundaries. One might have been born Muslim because it was expected, but Jesus is a personal decision to have a relationship with Him. Some people are dying for believing in Him. Some are leaving those countries. Some are staying and miserable, and believing God is so serious to them that they are willing to go through such things for those who do so. "If ye suffer with Me, ye shall reign with Me." Now, in light of all this, they must really have someting worth having--and knowing they have it--than to give it up.
Islam is not exactly fair to women and girls. No need going there, but I'd say you know what I'm referring to. They are calling for Sharia Law here. Are you up for it? Not me!
We are guaranteed, in the Bible, that man's life is like a vapour that ascends into the air, and is gone. That's a short life. We are also guaranteed that there is an afterlife, and it will last on and on and on. People have even died, seen this, and come back to tell about it. They're all seeing close to the same things for it to be a coincidence.

8. You sound like a young and enthusiastic person. I hate to tell you that there is something greater than self--something greater than us! It's God--our Creator. We can only go so far, but God can go the duration of the journey with us--from life to death to beyond what we see and hear in this life. Beyond the natural to the supernatural! All we need to do is bypass all the red tape and go straight to the source. Jesus reveals Himself. That's a fact! But we have to come with a believing heart. Without faith it is impossible to please Him. One man asked, "Lord, help my unbelief." Do you think God rejected him? I don't!
I hope you do have some peace, and I hope it's enough to take you as far as you need to go, and that's to the end of your life. Do you? However, Jesus gives a peace that surpasses all understanding. With Him, we don't have to die without the peace of knowing we are going to go back with Him when He comes to us.
We'll all face our destination at the end of the lifetime of this present life. Am I trying to scare you and preach hate? No! Just love, mercy, and grace, and that fact that "today is the day of slvation." We can't really boast in tomorrow, because we don't know what a day may bring forth. What we can know is that Jesus will be there all the way--to the end of this life--and beyond, for those who believe and trust in Him.
LTT

Charleston, WV

#39 Jan 18, 2013
Goodnight!

FDG

“Have facts, will travel!”

Level 7

Since: Feb 08

The Big Town!

#40 Jan 18, 2013
LTT wrote:
Look at post 30 #4 on your comment. That, within itself, is proof that you agree there are things you don't know about that you could consider true if you knew them, or knew about them.
Well of course! This isn't anything new.
LTT wrote:
You say you know all the information about God, or the God that I'm talking about. No, you don't!
I beg to differ. Everyone has the same copy of the book with the same information inside.
LTT wrote:
If you did, you'd know what He's like. You'd know about His love. You'd know that we reap what we sow.
I know all of these things; I simply don't believe them. There is no empirical evidence to support the claims, so there is no valid reason to put faith of any kind into them.
LTT wrote:
You'd know enough to want to give your heart to Him and to love Him.
The stories of the bible have the exact opposite affect on me.
LTT wrote:
you don't know all there is to know about Him, therefore, could not prove that He is a myth.
Again, how many times does it need to be said that I am not trying to prove anything? That burden of proof lies upon to prove that he isn't a myth. All I am saying is that not enough evidence exists to suggest that these are more than man written stories from the minds of iron age goat herders with limited understanding of how the world works.
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FDG

“Have facts, will travel!”

Level 7

Since: Feb 08

The Big Town!

#42 Jan 18, 2013
LTT wrote:
No, FDG, I don't believe in the theory of evolution. I don't believe that we have a common ancestor with apes. Do I believe that the fittest survive? In a way, but not like evolution calls it. Naturally, I believe healthier people and plants live longer, as opposed to the unhealthy ones. Unless---God heals---and God does heal. "With God all things are possible." I've been healed and seen healings before. If not for God, some people would not be here right now that's here.
So you are just going to ignore Science. There are THOUSANDS of peer reviewed papers on the subject and they all come to the same conclusion, that evolution is a real and tangible concept. That is why all religions will eventually fade away. Their teachings are in direct contrast to what religious propoganda teaches you, so therefore you deny it when the facts are clealy evident. This is counterproductive to society and to the human race overall. I can only imagine where we could be if we didn't have the stigma and dogma of religions holding us back from progressing forward.

The bottom line is, The Theory of Evolution is factual and can be supported. How you can deny that is deeply rooted in your religious misunderstandings.

One last question to leave you with. What doesn't your god heal amputees? Are they less worthy of a miracle from your god?

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