Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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former res

Cheshire, CT

#72671 Apr 30, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
what exactly were you reacting to? My post or Huggs fantasy?
I basically said
1) he had a right to believe in what he wants to believe
2) as long as he didnt discriminate against others by assuming others accepted those belief (in lieu of actual law of the land)
You said "....let him be..." Why should I?

And:

1. Did I ever question his right to believe? I simply questioned why he believed what he did.

2. He spouts hate speech. Like many bible thumpers, he feels it's ok because god and Jesus are on his side or he's on their side, I'm not sure....

So now you have the reason for my little tantrum.

Call it cabin fever. And more rain tomorrow!

God sucks.

:))

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#72672 Apr 30, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>

There are no habits in nature. Habits are developed.
You're clearly an illiterate with poor reasoning skills.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#72673 Apr 30, 2014
Hey,

Hugh's come online.

I knew he was lurking in the background.

I could smell his vibes.

ha ha
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#72674 Apr 30, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
then why are you opposed, and phobic of, marriage of gay people?
Son, I am not opposed to legal unions of gays and I am NOT phobic of it as well BUT I am certainly against the perversion of the word marriage.

Currently we call adult females WOMEN and adult males MEN. Do you think that we need to call adult FEMALES MEN in order for them to be equal to men?

Application---Marriage is a union between a man and a woman and gay-age the union between men and men and women and women and the latter does NOT have to be called marriage to have certain rights.

There is no need to PERVERT every term in order to sooth perverted people.

The word homo-PHOBIA is a PERVERSION of PHOBIA.

Suppose Eric or Cunti had a taste and a urge to unite with their dogs in sex, would you have a problem with that?

Would you HATE Eric and Cunti because you are dog-o-phobic?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#72675 Apr 30, 2014
HughBe----Your words about " masked hatred" underscores the fact that HOMOSEXUALITY is a MENTAL illness as ONLY a mentally ill person will construe HATRED because one has a different OPINION or DISAGREES with his words or actions

Do you have HATRED for those who enjoy having SEX with their DOGS? Do YOU agree with such practice?
If not explain why not.

FRijoles---Your religion has no bearing on me, so i could care less if you claim to be on the Lords side or that I am on the side of the Adversary.

HughBe--- Son, I was not speaking about my religion. Lesson, the Lord that I spoke of is the God of ALL FLESH and this is common knowledge to even an IDIOT who reads the Torah.

FRijoles---- No modern mental health worker will make the claim that homosexuality is a mental illness. The fact you refuse to come to terms with this reflects more YOUR state of mental health than anyone else.

HughBe--- If you are correct it seems that they have ALL been converted. Look at your thinking, I cannot DISAGREE with you on the matter of homosexuality without you attributing HATE. That is surely a sign of a persecution complex and paranoia.

Frijoles----I have no problem with bestiality PROVIDED someone is looking out for the welfare of the animal. Its not my thing (i.e I dont have the inclination), but what other people do is not for me to judge (provided the animal is treated humanely of course). Its an illogic stretch to compare consensual homosexual sex with nonconsensual bestiality.

HughBe--- it is NOT illogical to compare homosexuality to bestiality as BOTH are about SEX and satisfying SEXUAL desires.

The homosexual,you, are sexually attracted to other men whereas those into bestiality are attracted to animals it could be goats, cows, donkeys or dogs.

You spoke about looking after the welfare of the animals as a condition for your support of bestiality and so I want to ask you a few questions.

1. What business is that of yours if say Eric wants to SEX his property or dog?

2. Are you concerned about the MILLIONS of chickens and cows etc which are KILLED each year so that people like you may eat them?

3.Which is better, to KILL and eat animals or to SEX them and to treat them kindly?

4. What are your proposals to safeguard the animals that are being floced by some people?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#72676 Apr 30, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
Hey,
Hugh's come online.
I knew he was lurking in the background.
I could smell his vibes.
ha ha
It is all in your mind, I was literally working and away from here.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#72677 Apr 30, 2014
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
I have no idea where Apu, the little fruit, is.
I take it that you love to EAT fruit.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#72678 Apr 30, 2014
Genes in an organism make particular proteins, whereas other genes control protein synthesis in cells. Biological features and personality traits are largely inherited but while the former can be traced to chemical units, the case of the latter is not as simple. There's no clear-cut molecular mechanism to account for personality traits nor can raw chemicals explain sentience nor can proteins tell us anything about the self-organizing capacities of living cells. We need a deeper understanding of sentient systems in a holistic context to make sense of the above inexplicable processes.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#72679 Apr 30, 2014
Former-straight----Definition of HOMOPHOBIA
: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals
This is you. You discriminate because you wouldn't allow them to marry. And you judge them to be abnormal and mentally ill.
You are a homophobe, Got that? Mon

HughBe--- Son, the suffix PHOBIA has been PERVERTED to suit homosexuals.

Take a look at ALL phobias and you shall see that they have to do with IRRATIONAL FEARS and nothing to do with the DISCRIMINATION,in my mind .

Lesson for you and all others like you FEARS and DISCRIMINATION are NOT the same things.

Former---Did the almighty specifically tell you this?

HughBe--- YES.

Former---Or did you read it in some book written by scribes thousands of years ago?

HughBe--- I read the words which were written by normal and HONORABLE men of the past.

Former---How do you know they didn't make it all up, like any other fairy tale?

HughBe--- I deem them to be HONOURABLE.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#72680 Apr 30, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>How did you ever pass grammar in elementary school? So much for the Jamaican educational system.
THAT mouse, a stinking piece of Sh.T , did it.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#72681 Apr 30, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE----Hi HUGH,
You said that your wife does not have sexy legs but has a "good looking" face, right?
Is her face as "good-looking" as Oprah Winfrey's face?
(smiles)

Hugh---- YES for the first question and NO for the second one.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#72682 Apr 30, 2014
Apu:
Just as no one would call a cancer patient normal or just as no one would call a person with thieving instincts normal, similarly, a homosexual is abnormal where sexual orientation/procreation is concerned.

Huggy:
Suppose Eric or Cunti had a taste and a urge to unite with their dogs in sex, would you have a problem with that?

__________

Comparing gay sex with cancer, theft, sex with dogs.

Two chips off the same block!

And only one of them claims to be a bible thumper; though the other claims he can double as a night light via yoga.

So really, both batshxt crazy, each in his own special way!

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#72683 Apr 30, 2014
It's 4 am, here. Bye.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#72684 Apr 30, 2014
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
You said "....let him be..." Why should I?
And:
1. Did I ever question his right to believe? I simply questioned why he believed what he did.
2. He spouts hate speech. Like many bible thumpers, he feels it's ok because god and Jesus are on his side or he's on their side, I'm not sure....
So now you have the reason for my little tantrum.
Call it cabin fever. And more rain tomorrow!
God sucks.
:))
I guess, in your rightful rejection of his views, you missed (or I missed) the tone of where I was going - which was his views were irrelevant.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#72685 Apr 30, 2014
HughBe wrote:
Former---Did the almighty specifically tell you this?
HughBe--- YES.
Former---Or did you read it in some book written by scribes thousands of years ago?
HughBe--- I read the words which were written by normal and HONORABLE men of the past.
Former---How do you know they didn't make it all up, like any other fairy tale?
HughBe--- I deem them to be HONOURABLE.
Men you have never met. Men who lived thousands of years ago.
You deem them honorable.
Interesting.

I am not as trusting as you are.
Especially when you seem to base so much of your life and your beliefs on these words.
I would need a little more substance than "I trust them."

And keep in mind I'm not saying they were not honorable men.
They may well have held sincere beliefs and believed what they wrote.
They may have been as trusting as you are, and so on....

You even discriminate against a whole segment of our society based on these words.
And people wonder why so many of us are wary/leery of religion.(And no, I don't exactly lump them all in together....not exactly.)

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#72686 Apr 30, 2014
Squeak.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#72687 Apr 30, 2014
HughBe wrote:
JOEL COOL DUDE----Hi HUGH,

You said that your wife does not have sexy legs but has a "good looking" face, right?
Is her face as "good-looking" as Oprah Winfrey's face?

Hugh---- YES for the first question and NO for the second one.
What're her vital stats? Mind sharing them?

Is this her first marriage?

How many guys has she slept with prior to meeting a quarter-dick like you?

(grins)

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#72688 Apr 30, 2014
HughBe wrote:
HughBe----Your words about " masked hatred" underscores the fact that HOMOSEXUALITY is a MENTAL illness as ONLY a mentally ill person will construe HATRED because one has a different OPINION or DISAGREES with his words or actions
Do you have HATRED for those who enjoy having SEX with their DOGS? Do YOU agree with such practice?
If not explain why not.
FRijoles---Your religion has no bearing on me, so i could care less if you claim to be on the Lords side or that I am on the side of the Adversary.
HughBe--- Son, I was not speaking about my religion. Lesson, the Lord that I spoke of is the God of ALL FLESH and this is common knowledge to even an IDIOT who reads the Torah.
FRijoles---- No modern mental health worker will make the claim that homosexuality is a mental illness. The fact you refuse to come to terms with this reflects more YOUR state of mental health than anyone else.
HughBe--- If you are correct it seems that they have ALL been converted. Look at your thinking, I cannot DISAGREE with you on the matter of homosexuality without you attributing HATE. That is surely a sign of a persecution complex and paranoia.
Frijoles----I have no problem with bestiality PROVIDED someone is looking out for the welfare of the animal. Its not my thing (i.e I dont have the inclination), but what other people do is not for me to judge (provided the animal is treated humanely of course). Its an illogic stretch to compare consensual homosexual sex with nonconsensual bestiality.
HughBe--- it is NOT illogical to compare homosexuality to bestiality as BOTH are about SEX and satisfying SEXUAL desires.
The homosexual,you, are sexually attracted to other men whereas those into bestiality are attracted to animals it could be goats, cows, donkeys or dogs.
You spoke about looking after the welfare of the animals as a condition for your support of bestiality and so I want to ask you a few questions.
1. What business is that of yours if say Eric wants to SEX his property or dog?
2. Are you concerned about the MILLIONS of chickens and cows etc which are KILLED each year so that people like you may eat them?
3.Which is better, to KILL and eat animals or to SEX them and to treat them kindly?
4. What are your proposals to safeguard the animals that are being floced by some people?
Do you know what the words consensual and nonconsensual mean?

Because you are doing a great job of ignoring them.

try again
former res

Cheshire, CT

#72689 Apr 30, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
I guess, in your rightful rejection of his views, you missed (or I missed) the tone of where I was going - which was his views were irrelevant.
I hear ya. It all is.
Eric

Schaumburg, IL

#72690 Apr 30, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>

Application---Marriage is a union between a man and a woman and gay-age the union between men and men and women and women and the latter does NOT have to be called marriage to have certain rights.
Why can't they have all the rights and not just certain rights?

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