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HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#61457 Oct 29, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Is this your version of a D'var Torah for the day?
The words that follow are TRUE. They are not a version but are FACTS.

You and your kind should give up versions and embrace TRUTH and FACTS.

I have read from a Jewish source where it was said that the rabbis or sages taught their disciples to be more mindful of the Talmud than the Tanakh. Those may not be the exact words but they convey the exact sentiments.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#61458 Oct 29, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Simple, Mon.
Log Hugh = 2 Log J
Log Hugh = Log (J)^2
Taking anti-logs:
Hugh = J^2
Hugh = J x J = Jamaican Joker!!!!
(smiles)
Special, you are.

You solve this one.

2 Log I

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#61459 Oct 29, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
The words that follow are TRUE. They are not a version but are FACTS.
You and your kind should give up versions and embrace TRUTH and FACTS.
I have read from a Jewish source where it was said that the rabbis or sages taught their disciples to be more mindful of the Talmud than the Tanakh. Those may not be the exact words but they convey the exact sentiments.
Yeah, I believe you. Really.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#61460 Oct 29, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
<quoted text>
I think that you're in your mid or late 40s.
Your answer where you state that you could be sexually attracted to a 17 year old provided she has the power to attarct you reveals that you're a pedophile.
LOL.
Joel---Your answer where you state that you could be sexually attracted to a 17 year old provided she has the power to attarct you reveals that you're a pedophile.

HughBe--- Gifted, you are. Now let me uplift that brilliant mind of yours. You presented a hypothetical scenario and I gave you an honest answer and I shall not be changing it. Had I been clever I would NEVER have allowed you to outwit me.

Upliftment lesson for you dear Joel.

1. No honest and normal man could say that he could not be attracted to a 17 year old.

Here are a few reasons, STUDY them.

A) The age of a female is NOT printed on her FACE or body so once development is there you cannot be certain about age meaning 17 or 19 etc.

B) Attraction be it sexual or otherwise can happen to anyone prior to knowledge of age.

C)The fact that one is attracted to someone does not mean that it will go any further for many reasons. Sit in a corner and do the unusual THINK.

D) In many countries e.g. Israel the age of consent is 16 and some even lower and so sexual relationships would not be considered paedophilia in those countries.

E) I can tell you a FACT that in Jamaica the age of consent was actually lowered because of Indians or YOUR countrymen who married as early as 14. This is a FACT. The age has now been increased to 16.

F) Having a desire and NOT acting on it are not the same in law.

G)Tell me Joel are you a MURDERER? Let me share my reason for asking. YOU dear Joel have expressed a desire to KILL your former master.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#61461 Oct 29, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, I believe you. Really.
I don't care what you believe I GAVE the LINK to the quote, in the past.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#61462 Oct 29, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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You mean it would be illegal and troublesome for you if you entered into a physical relationship with a 17 year old handsome guy.
That's for you to decide.
Get this straight - Hugh is not sexually attracted to females.
Hugh is bisexual - mostly homosexual, hardly straight.
All his talks of insisting that he's straight are cover-ups to hide his sexual attraction for men.
Hugh has this nasty habit of visiting public loos to glimpse exposed dicks and I guess to pick up guys for sex.
On a couple of occasions, I perceived the sex vibes radiating from his posts - the stench was so foul, I almost threw up.
Joel---Get this straight - Hugh is not sexually attracted to females.

Hugh--- You are exposing me Joel, shame on you.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#61463 Oct 29, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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I don't care what you believe I GAVE the LINK to the quote, in the past.
So you have convinced yourself by posting an out of context quote. Congratulations. You are a genius.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#61464 Oct 29, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Joel---Get this straight - Hugh is not sexually attracted to females.
Hugh--- You are exposing me Joel, shame on you.
Nary a day goes by were you dont offer a gay double entrende. Thats not normal. Unless you swing that way. I just wish you would come out already and save yourself the torment the argument you must be having in your head between the real you and the biblical you. That must suck.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#61465 Oct 29, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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So you have convinced yourself by posting an out of context quote. Congratulations. You are a genius.
Frijoles---out of context quote

HughBe--- You are an absolute joke.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#61466 Oct 29, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Nary a day goes by were you dont offer a gay double entrende. Thats not normal. Unless you swing that way. I just wish you would come out already and save yourself the torment the argument you must be having in your head between the real you and the biblical you. That must suck.
Hilarious.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#61467 Oct 29, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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So you have convinced yourself by posting an out of context quote. Congratulations. You are a genius.
Put it in context.

My Jewish Learning, extract.
""The Talmud OUTSTRIPS even the Bible in influence and importance. Explicating and building upon the Torah's laws, stories, and ideas, the Talmud also lay the groundwork for new religious sensibilities that stressed scholarship and were attuned to the needs of the Jews in the Diaspora."
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#61468 Oct 29, 2013
HughBe wrote:
I have read from a Jewish source where it was said that the rabbis or sages taught their disciples to be more mindful of the Talmud than the Tanakh. Those may not be the exact words but they convey the exact sentiments.
In essence things taught by the rabbis via Talmud takes priority over what God said directly or via His prophets.
I am reminded of words spoke by Isaiah the prophet and surely they are applicable to the gods of Judaism.
"To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them."
I agree with you, HughBe. The Jews have not remained faithful in the covenant and have relied more on their interpretation than the actual word of God. They should know better from their history, but history tends to repeat itself. What will cause their downfall is not the Rabbis but the Christians. I think they should be kicked out and it is they that will cause Israel to go into captivity once again. What prompts captivity is idolatry.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#61469 Oct 29, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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The God El (YHVH) talks, fumes, abuses, curses, loves, avenges, threatens, murders and in short he displays every human trait and yet ironically he does not wish to reveal his face! LOL.
There exist many anthropopathic typal beings like El who refrain from incarnating in human form and are happy displaying human qualities as mentioned above and expectedly they have no wish to be portrayed in human form.
God is human and has human attributes. God has revealed his face but we are not to look at it. A lot of people lost their lives thirty years ago for publishing the face of God. A still picture is considered an idol. In response to your statement about other gods talking, idols do not speak, only the living God of Israel does. That's one of the things that separates God from the idols which are not alive.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#61470 Oct 29, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>I agree with you, HughBe. The Jews have not remained faithful in the covenant and have relied more on their interpretation than the actual word of God. They should know better from their history, but history tends to repeat itself. What will cause their downfall is not the Rabbis but the Christians. I think they should be kicked out and it is they that will cause Israel to go into captivity once again. What prompts captivity is idolatry.
But Susan, you say that you agree with me and yet you are not acknowledging that Judaism by how it operates is idolatrous.

If ANYONE obeys men or women over God they are putting their rulers ABOVE God. Judaism VIOLATES the FIRST of the 10 and much more.

The rabbis are BLINDLY ADORED and that is IDOLATRY.

Keep in mind that some Jews are Christians.

later

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#61471 Oct 29, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
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I don't disagree that the world is, in fact, more complicated. I also don't doubt there were many more buggy whip repairmen and butter churners in the Washington administration.
My question, and I don't believe there is an obvious answer. "Should there be computer programmers and air conditioning repairmen on the government payroll?" Or, could these services be better provided by contracting them from the private sector?
Actually, the answer is a very easy "yes". While for some functions contracting private industry is better, there are plenty of cases where that is not a good option. Part of my job in the Navy included computer programing...

The Obamacare web site is a glaring example of the private sector at work under government contract. Of course, most of those problems would have been avoided if the individual states done their duty to their citizens and established their own exchanges.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#61472 Oct 29, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
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The EPA has done some very good work. Setting standards for air and water quality is a fine example.
Engaging in the creation of an artificial biofuels market that cost Billions and inadvertently sparked basic food shortages across the globe to provide a product that no one was looking for, probably not so much.
A department like the EPA is a good example of a function of government -- make sure people aren't throwing their garbage in the sea, land, or air. But, that needs to be the limit of their function. Set the standard, enforce that standard, rinse, repeat.
There is a lot more science needed in the world today. Probably the best method is government subsidy to universities and let them do the work.

The idea of creating an artificial market for biofuels is, in and of itself, a good idea. It was poorly executed. People are addicted to oil, and every dollar spend on oil is money for terrorism. I am not just talking about petrodollars sent to Saudi Arabia, either. Even domestic oil aids terrorism by letting the Arabs sell to India or China instead of us. Then too, global warming must be addressed, and that also means putting an end to fossil fuel usage.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#61473 Oct 29, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Computers are meant to simplify record keeping and calculations, they would actually cut down on the need for employees.
In an ideal world, that would be true.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#61474 Oct 29, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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If the us government was such a grand idea these days and people thought that they were great then they wouldn't have to extract payment for their services by force.
Not true in the slightest. Even with something like the EPA, there are plenty of people who would rather be allowed to poison the air & water without limits in the thought that they can gain a few more cents of profit. Just like there are people who "choose" to be homeless, living in filth and not knowing where their next meal is coming from, when they could accept the fact that they are mentally unbalanced and need treatment.

And yes, I am deliberately comparing those who do not like the EPA to nutjobs that live out of a shopping cart and argue with themselves...

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#61475 Oct 29, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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CIA and Special Forces - Covert Ops have likely been involved in this conflict for months. Just not all that aggressively. Obama lacks the balls on this one. I would love to say I dont blame him, its a tricky situation, but I DO blame him. IF you are going posture, you need to follow up. Posturing and waffling is not good for anyone. Obama is terrible at foreign affairs.(That said, compared to the other orangutans in the other party, I would vote for him again in a heartbeat)
Yeah, Obama's biggest failure as POTUS was drawing a line in the sand over chemical weapons and then doing nothing when Assad used them.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#61476 Oct 29, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Nary a day goes by were you dont offer a gay double entrende. Thats not normal. Unless you swing that way. I just wish you would come out already and save yourself the torment the argument you must be having in your head between the real you and the biblical you. That must suck.
Take a look at this video. I saw both you and Joel in it starting from 4 minutes 32 seconds.

Watch the entire thing after.

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