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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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JOEL THUMBS UP

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#58245 Sep 17, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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I too have had many OBE while in bed.
LOL.

Only a trained yogi can have willed OBEs or they take place in a trained yogi spontaneously at times under the pressure of the dynamic descent of the higher force.

Can you describe the mechanism of an OBE if you claim to have experienced the phenomenon?

JOEL THUMBS UP

Since: May 13

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#58246 Sep 17, 2013
A CLOSER EVALUATION OF THE YOGIC VISION ON EVOLUTION OF NEW TYPAL FORMS (SPECIES):

1) Now, coming back to the phenomenon of the emergence of a new species from an existing organism on account of an infusion of a new bit of information in terms of a new state of consciousness-force with the force fields of an existing organism, it's evident that this phenomenon takes place only in the fit individual whose apparatus is in a state of steady aspiration to outgrow the limitations of the old typal features.

2) It's not that the entire species develops into a new type.

3) An organism of a prototypal species, can, if it develops the sustained urge to develop furthe, draw in a new bit of information from the universal force fields or there can come about a merger of a new bit of information with the force fields of an existing organism in this state of high aspiration thereby causing it to assimilate the new bit of information and with this incoming bit of consciousness-energy serving as the new material/impelling force, the existing genes of the organism undergo a mutation giving rise to new typal genes suited to express the new features.

4) The organism thus infused by the new bit of consciousness-energy then goes through several transition stages over a short period of time or over a long period of time and ultimately the new type emerges from the old type and in this way a new species emerges.

5) Since, just a handful of organisms in a prototypal species could acquire a higher state of aspiration or the higher urge to evolve further thus the transitional stages to the new type are rare to find and on death quickly get decomposed under layers of soil/water.

6) The evolutionary phenomenon that I perceived in vision is rare and happens only when a new range of consciousness-force gets activated in the terrestrial force fields.

7) Once the few fit organisms of a particular species transit to the new typal form they begin multiplying via sexual means and a whole population of the new type comes into existence.

8) The old view that I had of the materialization of the typal ranges of consciousness-energy into the various species is also valid but the above description is a deeper insight into the evolutionary mechanism and it is this evolutionary mechanism of infusion followed by emergence in fit individual that will give rise to the supramental being (a new species) from the mental being/man (old species). So, both mechanisms are possible. The yogic vision has clarified the subject in deep ways.

JOEL THUMBS UP

Since: May 13

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#58247 Sep 17, 2013
DOES KINETIC ENERGY VIOLATES PRINCIPLE OF CONSERVATION?

On the flip side of the notes on the evolution of consciousness-energy in a typal form via an act of emergence, is a statement made to me by a friend a few weeks ago that the formula of kinetic energy = 1/2mv^2 is invalid in terms of conservation of energy principle.

Let's check:

Ke = 1/2 mv^2

For a formula/equation to be valid, it should be dimensionally correct.

Ke is a form of energy.

SI unit of energy is joule (the unit is written in small letters since the whole name of the unit is typed, whereas if only the symbol is expressed then we use the capital letter as for instance in this case it would be J).

What is a joule?

W = FscosA or W = FssinA

If A = 0 or 90,

then,

W = Fs (since cos 0 = 1, sin 90 or sin pi/2 = 1)

W = Fs ( s = displacement in direction of F)

In terms of SI units, W = newton-meter or Nm.

Expanding,

W = 1kg-m/s^2 x m = 1 kg-m^2/s^2

Thus, the dimensions of W (work)= M^1 L^2 T^-2.

Now, Pe (gravitational potential energy)= mgh = Fh (h = vertical displacement).

So, W = Pe and thus both W and Pe should have the same dimensions = M^1 L^2 T^-2.

By W-E theorem, Ke is inter-convertible into Pe and vice versa. Thus, Ke should also have the same dimensions (M^1 L^2 T^-2) as W and Pe.

Now,

Ke = 1/2 mv^2.

The ratio 1/2 being a pure ratio of numbers has no units and hence no dimensions but it is an integral part of the formula of Ke.

Ke is dimensionally valid but does its formula obey the principle of conservation of energy?

For a body of mass m moving with uniform motion,

Ke = 1/2mv^2

m remains unchanged at low speeds far below c in air/vacuum.

So, Ke = 1/2 mv^2

If v = 1 m/s

Ke1 = 1/2 m (1)^2 = 1/2 m = 0.5m J .........(1)

If v = 2 m/s

Ke2 = 1/2m(2)^2 = 1/2 x m x 4 = 2m J.........(2)

Change in Ke = Ke2 - Ke1 = 2m - 0.5m = 1.5m J

If v = 3 m/s

Ke3 = 1/2m (3)^2 = 1/2 x m x 9 = 4.5m J........(3)

Change in Ke per sec from 2 sec to 3 sec = Ke3 = ke2 = 4.5m - 2m = 2.5m J

If v = 4 m/s,

Ke4 = 1/2 m (4)^2 = 1/2 x m x 16 = 8m J........(4)

Change in Ke,

Ke4 - Ke3 = 8m - 4.5m = 3.5m

So, we see a violation of the conservation principle with each successive gain in velocity per second for a mass traveling with uniform motion.

CONCLUSION: Ke is dimensionally correct but violates the principle of conservation of energy. Where does the extra energy come from to keep the mass in uniform motion?
Voluntarist

United States

#58248 Sep 17, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Did you hear about the house explosion? I heard it from my house way across town.
Lots of black smoke I thought that they were filming a movie again.
Eric

Knoxville, TN

#58249 Sep 17, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Hugh--- I would say NO in the strictest of sense. It is largely HISTORICAL in nature. Perhaps Eric regards it as literature or CREATIVE work based on what he sees around him.
Eric---Historical works cannot be great literature? Who says so? The creative facet is the manner of expression
HughBe--- Did you notice "in the strictest of sense"? The CREATIVE facets that I was thinking of were in the CONTENTS and NOT the expression.
No body gives a fair rats ass what you think. We are dealing with universal concepts here. "In the strictest of sense" historical works may be literature because that is the universal concept. There is no concept that the work be fiction.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#58250 Sep 17, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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you ugly
rabbee: on nooo! not the night, of the living uglies again?
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#58251 Sep 17, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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agreee
you get the point here
<quoted text>
Death as a punishment for insulting?
Come now - how can anyone NOT interpret that answer as in the EXTREME. So much for Islam being a middle path, of logic, peace, and reason,
Collosal fail
Death not for "insulting"....but by lampooning and abusing and making fun of the Prophet and Messenger of God.

And we would "love" if the same law was made for lampooning, abusing and making fun of Other prophets of God, like Moses and Jesus.

People should know the limits to which they can go in these matters.

“Act Interdimensional ly”

Since: Jan 08

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#58252 Sep 17, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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...People should know the limits to which they can go in these matters.
How interesting you accidentally stumbled onto a truth.

People SHOULD know the limits to which they can go and advocating death for satire is clearly far beyond the limits of any civilised society.

When you realise that, there might be hope for you.

P.S. When you see a woman driving a car, does it just drive you nuts?
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#58253 Sep 17, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Death not for "insulting"....but by lampooning and abusing and making fun of the Prophet and Messenger of God.
And we would "love" if the same law was made for lampooning, abusing and making fun of Other prophets of God, like Moses and Jesus.
People should know the limits to which they can go in these matters.
rabbee: if any one insults, any true prophet of G-D. it is G-D'S, job to punish them not yours. muhammed is not THE HOLY SPIRIT, so you are not authorized by G-D. to put anyone to death, for even insulting muhammed. since you have no way, of proving that muhammed is a false or true prophet. other than pure, mental magic.

hasatan, baal hamolech, and halooseefer, have been around a lot longer than any of you. why does not G-D, put them to death for never being true to G-D? for it is the world, that makes, hasatan, baal hamolech, and halooseefer true to them.

Since: Aug 11

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#58254 Sep 17, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Did you hear about the house explosion? I heard it from my house way across town.
Yep. Propane tank leak from what I understand.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#58255 Sep 17, 2013
if you join the rebellions, of the enemies of G-D. then you are the enemies, of G-D and G-D'S Truth.
Voluntarist

United States

#58256 Sep 17, 2013
Update: High School AP History Book
Rewrites 2nd Amendment
Submitted by RobHino on Mon, 09/16/2013 - 02:52
Daily Paul Liberty Forum
DP Original Texas

Textbook version: "The people have a right to keep and bear arms in
a state militia."
Actual 2nd Amendment: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to
the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear
Arms, shall not be infringed."
Did you catch the sleight of hand?
A militia is a body of citizens enrolled for military service, and called
out periodically for drill but serving full time only in emergencies. It's
a common man army of citizens, NOT soldiers. The citizens are called
up in emergencies to protect the free State.
The 2nd Amendment says that a militia is necessary to protect a free
State, so in order to be able to have a militia, the citizens have a
natural right to keep and bear arms and the government cannot
infringe on that right.
The textbook version implies that we're only allowed to keep and bear
arms if we're in a State militia, a clear misrepresentation of the 2nd
Amendment.

http://www.dailypaul.com/299365/high-school-a...
Eric

Lisle, IL

#58257 Sep 18, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Death not for "insulting"....but by lampooning and abusing and making fun of the Prophet and Messenger of God.
And we would "love" if the same law was made for lampooning, abusing and making fun of Other prophets of God, like Moses and Jesus.
People should know the limits to which they can go in these matters.
Really? Then our Muslim friends on the "Who is Allah" thread should all be put to death for their treatment of Jesus? BMW, Alex, YOU? The Christian world should put out an edict that the 3 of you should be found and sentenced to death? We know where to find you. You have allowed your whereabouts to be known. Should the Christians come knocking on your door?

Oh wait. I guess not. The Christians have a saying. Turn the other cheek. Maybe the Christians are wrong. Maybe you should be afraid of a knock on the door.
Eric

Lisle, IL

#58258 Sep 18, 2013
Sorry, BMZ. Mea Culpa.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#58259 Sep 18, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Death not for "insulting"....but by lampooning and abusing and making fun of the Prophet and Messenger of God.
And we would "love" if the same law was made for lampooning, abusing and making fun of Other prophets of God, like Moses and Jesus.
People should know the limits to which they can go in these matters.
lampooning, abusing, making fun? Thats not insulting?

ignoring that obvious foolishness

We should give you extremists Australia and be done with it. Obviously you are not fit to interact with the rest of the world, the ones that are not hopping around in loin cloths trying to kill each other in the name of your prophet with a Koran tucked under their bellies.

Who the hell are you to set the limits anyhow.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#58260 Sep 18, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Lots of black smoke I thought that they were filming a movie again.
shocked you havent spun a conspiracy theory yet

the best one I have heard so far is that it was a meth lab but the police dont want to admit it because it makes our city look bad.(for all I know this could be true, lol)

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#58261 Sep 18, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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Yep. Propane tank leak from what I understand.
yep, 500 gal propane tank. Thats a lot of BBQ chickens.

Sheezus, I live about 5 miles away and my house shook for a second. Too quick for an earthquake, I figured it was explosion down the street. I almost ran outside to look but I was too absorbed watching the last episode of Breaking Bad (Making progress - just finished season 1)
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#58262 Sep 18, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
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How interesting you accidentally stumbled onto a truth.
People SHOULD know the limits to which they can go and advocating death for satire is clearly far beyond the limits of any civilised society.
When you realise that, there might be hope for you.
P.S. When you see a woman driving a car, does it just drive you nuts?
People should know that Satire also has a limit...

Do not hurt others and you will not be hurt is a universal truth.
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#58263 Sep 18, 2013
Eric wrote:
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Really? Then our Muslim friends on the "Who is Allah" thread should all be put to death for their treatment of Jesus? BMW, Alex, YOU? The Christian world should put out an edict that the 3 of you should be found and sentenced to death? We know where to find you. You have allowed your whereabouts to be known. Should the Christians come knocking on your door?
Oh wait. I guess not. The Christians have a saying. Turn the other cheek. Maybe the Christians are wrong. Maybe you should be afraid of a knock on the door.
People who lampoon and make fun of the Prophets of God should get the same treatment, I doubt if any Muslim will go to the limit to abuse or lampoon the personal character of Prophets of God.

"Turn the other cheek" is only a "catch phase to catch fish"... and it has no real value.

Why they did not turn the "Other Cheek" on 9/11?

On the other hand, Yes they turned the other Cheek, they offered both WTC-1 and WTC-2 and as a Bonus WTC-7, that was too much!!
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#58264 Sep 18, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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lampooning, abusing, making fun? Thats not insulting?
ignoring that obvious foolishness
We should give you extremists Australia and be done with it. Obviously you are not fit to interact with the rest of the world, the ones that are not hopping around in loin cloths trying to kill each other in the name of your prophet with a Koran tucked under their bellies.
Who the hell are you to set the limits anyhow.
We are in the world for 1400 years and growing every day.

And do not think that we did not rule over you!!

If you want to live in peace, you will have to learn some manners.

We have manners and we do not make fun of prophets of God and religious personalities of other religions.

We give respect and demand equal respect from other side too.

It is the best and most civilized way , not yours, where every one spits out whatever comes to their mind, not knowing about whom they are talking.

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