UPDATE: Highway 90 now open as fire l...

UPDATE: Highway 90 now open as fire lines appear to be holding, official reports (3:05 p.m.)

There are 16 comments on the Silver City Sun-News story from May 8, 2011, titled UPDATE: Highway 90 now open as fire lines appear to be holding, official reports (3:05 p.m.). In it, Silver City Sun-News reports that:

Terrance Vestal/Sun-News A wild fire broke out late Sunday morning south of Truck Bypass and west of Highway 90.

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Whos that

Albuquerque, NM

#1 May 8, 2011
Absolutely no thought or organization by law enforcement in this fire today. On my way back to Silver City from Arizona I got within 3 miles of town when stopped at a road block was told I would have to turn around and go back to the mine and take the Tyrone Road to Hwy 180. I spoke to a friend who was trying to get to Lordsburg and hit the same road block from the other side and she was told to get to Lordsburg she would have to take the Tyrone Mine Road. Tell me, what would have been so hard to have given us that information before I reached the Tyrone Mine Road and before she passed by the Tyrone Mine Road coming from Cliff.
It is scary to think these people are in charge- when they cannot even think this through. All it would have taken is to have an officer a half mile before the Tyrone Mine Road on both sides telling people what the situation was so they could have taken that route instead of getting to Silver City or within 3 miles and having to back track.
what t f

Las Cruces, NM

#2 May 8, 2011
Thats nothing they(the cops) took 30 minutes to decide to evacuate a church that was rite in the fires path and it was full of people. That would have been the first thing I would have Done!! Sad that tghis shit (THE FIRES) are happening!! WHAT TH F !!!!!!!!!!
pcw

Albuquerque, NM

#3 May 8, 2011
if you can do a better job then get out there your self
I was

United States

#4 May 8, 2011
pcw wrote:
if you can do a better job then get out there your self
I was out there! It was nearly in my front yard! The previous posters are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT! I have never seen such dis-organization in my life! We are all VERY appreciative to the local Fire Dept's., but if it hadn't been for myself and my wonderful neighbors, there would have been several homes lost!!!! We pulled hoses from the trucks and manned hoses in the brush! Don't throw your condescending attitude my way! WE LOST ZERO STRUCTURES!
Mike
Just Saying

Morenci, AZ

#5 May 9, 2011
pcw wrote:
if you can do a better job then get out there your self
I'm gonna have to agree with you the staff of the police department you have to realize that there isn't that many office on duty to begin with on sunday anyways! And beside i'm sure all the most of the people living in there house's are pretty grown up to decide weather or not they are in danger..... I mean come on if I see a fire coming I'm not gonna wait for someone to tell me to leave! That's just common sense and if you need a officer to tell you that maybe you shouldn't be living there?:OD
fire fighter

United States

#6 May 9, 2011
I was wrote:
<quoted text>
I was out there! It was nearly in my front yard! The previous posters are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT! I have never seen such dis-organization in my life! We are all VERY appreciative to the local Fire Dept's., but if it hadn't been for myself and my wonderful neighbors, there would have been several homes lost!!!! We pulled hoses from the trucks and manned hoses in the brush! Don't throw your condescending attitude my way! WE LOST ZERO STRUCTURES!
Mike
you should have stayed out of the way so we could work. we had to wait for you to get out of the way so we so we wouldn't run your dumb butt over. protect your property stay out of the way idiot
Major Incompetence

Santa Fe, NM

#7 May 9, 2011
Those who are criticizing the authorities are EXACTLY CORRECT. When my wife was on the way back from Santa Clara towards Silver City she saw the smoke plume. She called me and I got on our police scanner to find out what was going on. TALK ABOUT CHAOS!!! In any other state, when there are major emergencies of this type, all police are told to clear off the airways and let the emergency calls get through. Here, they were still doing license checks and all kinds of other mundane BS while the fire was blazing. I guess making sure seatbelts are fastened takes priority over controlling the goings-on around a major fire. Even the dispatcher was complaining about confusion, and the joke was she was ADDING to it!!! They really need to fire all the female police dispatchers and hire men. The women all get excited and can't take multiple calls. I heard one dispatcher say to one of the police officers that his house was on fire. WTF!!!! That should NOT be broadcast over the radio. And even if it was on fire, his job takes priority over running over there to check it out. There is also the prioblem of the female dispatchers getting overly friendly with police officers. It's a police radio, not a cellphone. If they want to make lovey-dovey overtures to their police boyfrienmds, let them call him on the cellphone AFTER WORK. Hire males and train them in proper procedures. And for cripes sakes get males that can speak and be understood IN ENGLISH.

All I can say is I hope we NEVER have a disaster worse than a fire. We will be on our own and can expect NOTHING as far as help from police. To the firefighters...GOOD JOB!!! You guys are the best.
And I don't believe for one minute the post above by "fire fighter" is a REAL fire fighter. They simply wouldn't say something like that.
Who is in charge

Silver City, NM

#8 May 9, 2011
Chaos is normal at large incidents. That is why the fire departments have adopted incident command primarily using the Forest Service model. Most of the local yokels don't get it yet and that is why the Forest Service is called for the really big fires.
not all

United States

#9 May 9, 2011
Who is in charge wrote:
Chaos is normal at large incidents. That is why the fire departments have adopted incident command primarily using the Forest Service model. Most of the local yokels don't get it yet and that is why the Forest Service is called for the really big fires.
whatever. Forest service is not called in for their incident command system. They are called in as a resource, just like any other department.
Nobody is

Santa Fe, NM

#10 May 9, 2011
criticizing the fire fighters. It's the POLICE that had the chaos.
just saying

Albuquerque, NM

#11 May 9, 2011
We are so screwed.
I was

United States

#12 May 9, 2011
Major Incompetence wrote:
Those who are criticizing the authorities are EXACTLY CORRECT. When my wife was on the way back from Santa Clara towards Silver City she saw the smoke plume. She called me and I got on our police scanner to find out what was going on. TALK ABOUT CHAOS!!! In any other state, when there are major emergencies of this type, all police are told to clear off the airways and let the emergency calls get through. Here, they were still doing license checks and all kinds of other mundane BS while the fire was blazing. I guess making sure seatbelts are fastened takes priority over controlling the goings-on around a major fire. Even the dispatcher was complaining about confusion, and the joke was she was ADDING to it!!! They really need to fire all the female police dispatchers and hire men. The women all get excited and can't take multiple calls. I heard one dispatcher say to one of the police officers that his house was on fire. WTF!!!! That should NOT be broadcast over the radio. And even if it was on fire, his job takes priority over running over there to check it out. There is also the prioblem of the female dispatchers getting overly friendly with police officers. It's a police radio, not a cellphone. If they want to make lovey-dovey overtures to their police boyfrienmds, let them call him on the cellphone AFTER WORK. Hire males and train them in proper procedures. And for cripes sakes get males that can speak and be understood IN ENGLISH.
All I can say is I hope we NEVER have a disaster worse than a fire. We will be on our own and can expect NOTHING as far as help from police. To the firefighters...GOOD JOB!!! You guys are the best.
And I don't believe for one minute the post above by "fire fighter" is a REAL fire fighter. They simply wouldn't say something like that.
Thank You, I couldn't have said it better myself!
I have no clue why it's showing Fresno, wth?

Mike
Silver City, NM
Word of truth

Silver City, NM

#13 May 11, 2011
Major Incompetence wrote:
Those who are criticizing the authorities are EXACTLY CORRECT. When my wife was on the way back from Santa Clara towards Silver City she saw the smoke plume. She called me and I got on our police scanner to find out what was going on. TALK ABOUT CHAOS!!! In any other state, when there are major emergencies of this type, all police are told to clear off the airways and let the emergency calls get through. Here, they were still doing license checks and all kinds of other mundane BS while the fire was blazing. I guess making sure seatbelts are fastened takes priority over controlling the goings-on around a major fire. Even the dispatcher was complaining about confusion, and the joke was she was ADDING to it!!! They really need to fire all the female police dispatchers and hire men. The women all get excited and can't take multiple calls. I heard one dispatcher say to one of the police officers that his house was on fire. WTF!!!! That should NOT be broadcast over the radio. And even if it was on fire, his job takes priority over running over there to check it out. There is also the prioblem of the female dispatchers getting overly friendly with police officers. It's a police radio, not a cellphone. If they want to make lovey-dovey overtures to their police boyfrienmds, let them call him on the cellphone AFTER WORK. Hire males and train them in proper procedures. And for cripes sakes get males that can speak and be understood IN ENGLISH.
All I can say is I hope we NEVER have a disaster worse than a fire. We will be on our own and can expect NOTHING as far as help from police. To the firefighters...GOOD JOB!!! You guys are the best.
And I don't believe for one minute the post above by "fire fighter" is a REAL fire fighter. They simply wouldn't say something like that.
You are exactly right, however dont entirely blame the police or the dispatchers, blame their leadership because they are the ones responsible for their subordinates!!!
Major

Santa Fe, NM

#14 May 11, 2011
Word of truth wrote:
<quoted text>
You are exactly right, however dont entirely blame the police or the dispatchers, blame their leadership because they are the ones responsible for their subordinates!!!
That is only partly true. You also have to take into consideration the people they are hiring. Grant County isn't exactly the best source of police officers. I wonder how many exceptions they have to make to their hiring rules to get adequate applicants for the police jobs?
Dont

Silver City, NM

#15 May 12, 2011
Major wrote:
<quoted text>
That is only partly true. You also have to take into consideration the people they are hiring. Grant County isn't exactly the best source of police officers. I wonder how many exceptions they have to make to their hiring rules to get adequate applicants for the police jobs?
How about the fact that you don't have to even be a certified law enforcement officer to work for the town of Silver City. All it means is that you start out at a lower pay rate until you become certified. Would you go to a DR's office who was not licensed....yet? Or how about letting an ambulance driver take care of you if they were not licensed....yet?
This is right off of the Town's Website:
EMPLOYMENT QUALIFICATIONS
Minimum High School Education
No Felony Convictions
No Convictions of Domestic Violence
Able to pass Entry Written Exam, Background, Psychological Exam
Valid New Mexico Drivers License
18 Years of age or older
Must be able to complete New Mexico Law Enforcement Academy Program
Certified -$32,383, Uncertified -$29,206
Major

Santa Fe, NM

#16 May 12, 2011
Dont wrote:
<quoted text>
How about the fact that you don't have to even be a certified law enforcement officer to work for the town of Silver City. All it means is that you start out at a lower pay rate until you become certified. Would you go to a DR's office who was not licensed....yet? Or how about letting an ambulance driver take care of you if they were not licensed....yet?
This is right off of the Town's Website:
EMPLOYMENT QUALIFICATIONS
Minimum High School Education
No Felony Convictions
No Convictions of Domestic Violence
Able to pass Entry Written Exam, Background, Psychological Exam
Valid New Mexico Drivers License
18 Years of age or older
Must be able to complete New Mexico Law Enforcement Academy Program
Certified -$32,383, Uncertified -$29,206
I doubt very much that Silver City is sending totally untrained people out on the street as police officers. They would be openning themselves up to gigantic lawsuits if they did that. Plus police would have to have SOME knowledge of New Mexico laws to even make an arrest. We don't really know what "certification" entails. I do know that police can get on-the-job training via a Field Training Officer for most of the normal day-to-day patrolling activities and do an adequate job. And sending a brand new recruit directly to training, only to have him quit once he gets on the street, is an expensive proposition. Better to give him street experience first, then if he doesn't like it, let him quit.

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