Crash wasn't first for elderly man

Full story: Silver City Sun-News

An elderly Silver City man who was involved in a fatal accident Sunday was also cited less than six months ago for careless driving after rear-ending another car, which sent a woman to the hospital, according to Silver City Police Department records.

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anthony

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Mar 18, 2011
 
why do the powers that be allow these older citizens continue to drive even after they show they have lost there ability to do so safley.
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Pollyanna. Waiting around for the judicial system to do what's right won't change how things work here, and won't give you any satisfaction or closure. Talk to a lawyer about your rights. Nobody pays attention until they're sued and are forced to own up to their negligence. In this instance, negligence that led to a very untimely death for this young man. May peace be with you.
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Mar 18, 2011
 

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Get this guy off the road before he kills someone else!!
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Pollyanna Henry wrote:
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All I can do is feel sorry for you. Obviously you have nothing better to do than talk about people who can't defend themselves. You should really get a life and and take a class on "PC" as you put it. This was my brother and you should think of things like that before you voice your ignorant opinion. It is really hard to "roll" off a bike when you get hit from the side. And just so you know the area wasn't congested and the old man claimed,"there was no traffic", so I guess there goes your expert analysis of the situation.
A person like you probably always blames those who are deceased. I guess the people who got killed at the World Trade Center should have ran a little faster, huh? After being in the Navy for nine years I thought I have seen it all, but you just proved me wrong. What are you doing tomorrow? Are you going to go protest at a fallen soldiers funeral? God Bless you, I hope that no one ever says things like that about people you lose
I stand beside every word written by Polly...
There are no words to describe the horrible incident that occurred. Our family (I am one of Bobby's sisters also) struggled with the reality of his death before we began to learn details of the man who took his life. The tears we shed and the pain we feel will continue...but to know that his death could have been prevented makes the pain just that much worse.
Thank you to all who have written words of condolences and kindness... life is fragile, embrace it.
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Mar 18, 2011
 
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Because according the SCPD the old man already sent one woman to the hospital in the same exact area can't you read?! The police ARE at fault. To serve and protect remember says so on their units. Who did they serve and who did they protect in this case? They served the old man and didn't protect Bobby Serna! Simple as that! Good police would get with the family and the Dr.s and take people like this off the roads.
You know, when I express my opinion on this forum, I always try to be civil. I don't call people stupid, even though I might think they are, or don't agree with their views. But you obviously are just a bitc! or a pric!. Believe me, my ability to comprehend what I read is probably 1,000 times that of yours, and I certainly don't comment on something unless I know what I am talking about.
Instead of coming on here and spreading a bunch of crap that isn't true, why don't you check your facts! A police officer cannot just take somebody's drivers license when they get in an accident (unless they are a drunk driver), even if they obviously are no longer capable of driving correctly. The man has to have his day in court, just like anybody, and MVD is the only agency that can take his license.
Like I stated above, where the heck was his family and doctor in this. They are WAY more culpable than the Silver City P.D. People like you want our police to do everything, but you would probably be the first to yell "police brutality" or "who do they think they are", if they over-stepped their authority.
This was a tragic and horrible accident, but there is absolutely nothing the SCPD could have done about it. Instead of being a blow-hard on this forum, why don't you try to change the laws around how our state issues driver's licenses to the elderly? Maybe anyone over a certain age should be reviewed on a yearly basis, with verification from a physician that they are actually capable of driving.
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To Teresa Batey & Pollyanna Henry
I want the two of you to know that I and 40 Jr. Highers were in Silver City the night of the accident and had passed by right after it happened. I happened to be in a van that was carrying 15 students, youth pastor and myself and as we were driving by 3 of students said a prayer outloud for all involved in the accident. Later that night as we were leaving from dinner we were told by the youth pastor that the man on the motorcycle had passed away, again 3 of the students in our van prayed out loud again that God bring his family peace. I know those kids that were in the van will be praying for your family as I will be praying also.
Sorry to read all the negative comments on here about the accident.
The students and leaders that were there in Silver City were on a Mission trip helping where we could help.
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Hey moron, are you really blaming the guy who is riding the bike? Stick your "strikes" up your ass!!! This guy was riding along, minding his own business, when some incompetent person who is WAY TOO OLD to be driving plows into him. I know you think you are better than other people, but you would not have just "rolled out of it" either. Pull your head out of you ass. You could die just as easy, you conceited/arrogant prick.
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By your logic, the person you lost to a drunk driver should have made sure their car had a roll cage. The also should have been driving a Volvo with a HANS device installed. Otherwise they are partially to blame. Right?...Wrong a-hole. Keep your ignorance to yourself, and save people from your low I.Q. dribble.
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Are you kidding me? SHAME on you Silver City PD. SHAME on the family of the driver. Really? This didn't even need to have happened like this. My god, really? Was there a small clue after the first incident with the driver that perhaps, just maybe, it was time to take away the keys? Did family members have any idea after the first accident maybe the man was not of sound mind to control a truck? And now his truck has turned not only into a vehicle of injury, but also a vehicle of death. Shame.......what a tragic end to a young man's life at the hands of this driver.
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Mar 18, 2011
 
Really wrote:
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You know, when I express my opinion on this forum, I always try to be civil. I don't call people stupid, even though I might think they are, or don't agree with their views. But you obviously are just a bitc! or a pric!. Believe me, my ability to comprehend what I read is probably 1,000 times that of yours, and I certainly don't comment on something unless I know what I am talking about.
Instead of coming on here and spreading a bunch of crap that isn't true, why don't you check your facts! A police officer cannot just take somebody's drivers license when they get in an accident (unless they are a drunk driver), even if they obviously are no longer capable of driving correctly. The man has to have his day in court, just like anybody, and MVD is the only agency that can take his license.
Like I stated above, where the heck was his family and doctor in this. They are WAY more culpable than the Silver City P.D. People like you want our police to do everything, but you would probably be the first to yell "police brutality" or "who do they think they are", if they over-stepped their authority.
This was a tragic and horrible accident, but there is absolutely nothing the SCPD could have done about it. Instead of being a blow-hard on this forum, why don't you try to change the laws around how our state issues driver's licenses to the elderly? Maybe anyone over a certain age should be reviewed on a yearly basis, with verification from a physician that they are actually capable of driving.
Is there such a thing as a temporary suspension, pending the investigation? With a woman sent to the hospital and a death of a young man, a temporary suspension can be applied in certain circumstances. And this would be one of those!
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because somebody has a suspended license doesn't mean that they aren't going to drive.
Teresa Batey

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Brenda wrote:
To Teresa Batey & Pollyanna Henry
I want the two of you to know that I and 40 Jr. Highers were in Silver City the night of the accident and had passed by right after it happened. I happened to be in a van that was carrying 15 students, youth pastor and myself and as we were driving by 3 of students said a prayer outloud for all involved in the accident. Later that night as we were leaving from dinner we were told by the youth pastor that the man on the motorcycle had passed away, again 3 of the students in our van prayed out loud again that God bring his family peace. I know those kids that were in the van will be praying for your family as I will be praying also.
Sorry to read all the negative comments on here about the accident.
The students and leaders that were there in Silver City were on a Mission trip helping where we could help.
Thank you so much for sharing this! You could never know how much this means to our family...

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#33
Mar 19, 2011
 
You people blaming the police department have your sights set on the WRONG target. Police can't stop people from driving. That is NOT their jobs. They enforce the law....PERIOD. The finger of blame should be pointed DIRECTLY at the ones who keep giving people with terrible driver's records a new license...the New Mexico DMV. It's THEIR job to sort out who should and shouldn't be driving. It's also the fault of the judges who give slap-on-the-wrist sentences to these bad drivers when they commit traffic sentences.
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What I see here, is that many of those posting have their minds made up, and reply to other posts from that a priori viewpoint, regardless of what they’re actually replying to. At various times responders have “quoted” words and citations that were never included in the original post, ostensibly as springboards for launching their own viewpoint, salient or not. What this suggests is that there’s a distinct mean to the intellectual dialog on this forum, likely influenced somewhat by the particular topic under way, but ultimately determined by that gross intellectual capability. On some level this is an indicator of who and what our society is really constituted of, but what’s really of value is to note just where our lowest common denominator actually comes to rest. If you truly have a thought of some merit, you must express it in a way that caters to those limitations. Otherwise the LCD will plagiarize, manipulate, misrepresent, and edit your ideas into whatever form suits their needs. The obvious casualties here being truth, reality, wisdom, and common sense. Too bad actually, otherwise an online public venue like this could serve a great purpose.
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Mar 19, 2011
 
I agree with Deputy 276. People have their drivers licenses taken away all the time, whether its from a DWI, child support or racking up points from their own doing. But just because someone has their drivers license taken away doesn't mean that's going to prevent them from driving...If people honestly believe that this tragedy could have been avoided by taking this old mans license, you better guess again. Besides when you get into a accident, as this old man previously was in, it doesn't mean you can have your license taken away. There are certain elements that have to be in place and being old and involved in a crash where someone is hurt doesn't fit the criteria. Should this old man have been driving? of course not but there are thousands of people who also shouldn't be driving and what are we as a society doing about it.....nothing but complaining and pointing the finger when something tragic happens.
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RIP MY GOOD FRIEND BJ
NO ONE ON HERE SHOULD BE ARGUING IN ANY WAY. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS A GOOD MAN IS DEAD AND ITS TERRIBLE. HE SHOULDNT BE AND ITS SAD. GET OFF HERE WITH THAT NEGATIVITY.
MUCH LOVE BRO!!!

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I agree with Deputy 276. People have their drivers licenses taken away all the time, whether its from a DWI, child support or racking up points from their own doing. But just because someone has their drivers license taken away doesn't mean that's going to prevent them from driving...If people honestly believe that this tragedy could have been avoided by taking this old mans license, you better guess again. Besides when you get into a accident, as this old man previously was in, it doesn't mean you can have your license taken away. There are certain elements that have to be in place and being old and involved in a crash where someone is hurt doesn't fit the criteria. Should this old man have been driving? of course not but there are thousands of people who also shouldn't be driving and what are we as a society doing about it.....nothing but complaining and pointing the finger when something tragic happens.
In many states there is a "three strikes you're out" rule. Judges and other factors don't come into play at all. It's an automatic thing and no plea bargaining or other scam by shyster lawyers or sympathetic DAs is allowed.

Yes, taking away a license doesn't necessarily remove someone from behind the wheel. But driving without a license (and insurance) should be IMMEDIATE cause for incarceration for a VERY long time. New Mexico simply has laws that are WAY too lax and lenient.
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@ "On the sidewalk"... Your most recent post would seem (almost) eloquent, if it wasn't for the less-than-intelligent ramblings of your earlier offerings.

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