Crash wasn't first for elderly man

Crash wasn't first for elderly man

There are 38 comments on the Silver City Sun-News story from Mar 17, 2011, titled Crash wasn't first for elderly man. In it, Silver City Sun-News reports that:

An elderly Silver City man who was involved in a fatal accident Sunday was also cited less than six months ago for careless driving after rear-ending another car, which sent a woman to the hospital, according to Silver City Police Department records.

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Silver City citizen

Santa Fe, NM

#1 Mar 17, 2011
What a shame that things like this even have to happen. I know that it is hard sometimes but people have to be monitered by there family. This tragedy could have been avoided at his age andwith his previous record he should not have been driving. But in this world people get to tied up with there own life and forget about caring for others. I just hope none of his family knew about his condition and simply said someday he's gonna hurt someone. or I hope he will be o.k. My prayers are with the family of the young man who paid for this mans carelessness with his life.
--WHY--

Albuquerque, NM

#2 Mar 17, 2011
Sounds like the police are as much as fault as the old guy's family here-if they had petitioned for his license the 27 yr old guy would still be alive!
Edi

United States

#3 Mar 17, 2011
I think Grandpa needs to ride the bus or hire a personal driver.
Really

Silver City, NM

#4 Mar 17, 2011
Why do people always blame the police??? How about his doctor? He can and should have reported this man to MVD. How about his family?? They know him better than the police do. There are a lot of people who have accidents, and should not be on the road, does that mean that the police should petition MVD every time they believe someone is incompetent to drive? I think that would require a full-time position!
People are so quick to blame others for their problems. well, guess what, how about some personal responsibility here! Obviously this elderly gentleman should not be driving (and there are many more out there). But MVD gave him a license, his family did nothing (including not reporting him to MVD), his doctor did nothing. There is a lot of blame to go around!
Silver City Gal

Los Alamos, NM

#5 Mar 17, 2011
The story said nobody has been cited, yet. Does that mean Verl German is still out there driving around? What has been done to prevent him from driving, presently?
urallwet

Silver City, NM

#6 Mar 17, 2011
In response to the police apologist, YES, that DOES mean police should petition to have EVERY incompetent driver that they are aware of removed from the road. So what if it required a full-time position? Is a person's life not worth that? Besides, you think it would take a full-time position--I DON'T AGREE! We have waaaaaay too many cops in this town as it is and most of the time I see them looking down toward their laps while sitting at a traffic trap, presumable texting. Based on what I've read, I agree with "WHY" and think the cops are AT LEAST complicit in the loss of life in this case! So there!
wow

Albuquerque, NM

#7 Mar 17, 2011
so sad for the young man who lost his life because of this old man's careless driving .I am so sad for this man and i dont even know him at all but im so upset .so sorry for the family who lost him .my heart goes out to them may GOD be with you always.and the old man needs to be charged for this !!!
wow

Albuquerque, NM

#8 Mar 17, 2011
why dont the cops stop EDWARD =aka peanut butter from driving has anyone seen the way he drives it is amazing the cops let him get away with driving that way omg
FU Elkstine

Guaymas, Mexico

#9 Mar 17, 2011
Could be he had a stroke. The last person to know they are having a stroke is the person having the stroke. We shouldn't judge to quickly.
just saying

Albuquerque, NM

#10 Mar 17, 2011
isn't my neighbor. he doesn't have a license. doesn't stop him from driving. all 4 vehicles registered in wife's name. deaf and half blind, over 80. spoke with police, claim they can't do anything. chased a cop for 1.2 miles, blowing my horn, flashing my lights, before she quit texting and saw me and finally pulled over. 1.2 miles through town, numerous stop signs (she didn't) turns (she never signaled). Silver Shitty's finest
On the sidewalk

Rio Rancho, NM

#11 Mar 17, 2011
Clearly this was a tragic accident, but seeing as weíre spreading cause we really ought not forget the motorcyclist. Having been hit, he couldnít or didnít know how to roll out of it, suggesting inexperience on his part as a bike rider - strike one. He was traveling faster than his ability to avoid the unpredictable actions of other drivers in a congested traffic area - strike two. And he wasnít wearing a helmet - strike three. I understand that criticizing this young man after having lost his life is not PC, but ignoring the harshness of reality is how people loose their lives. There are drivers like this 80 old man, we do share the road with them, they do put us all at risk, and ultimately itís up to us to protect ourselves by driving safely, with awareness and defensiveness. This particular reality is multiplied 100 fold when weíre riding a bike.
Pollyanna Henry

United States

#12 Mar 17, 2011
This was our brother - his life was taken because no one controlled this man. Is this what has to happen to get incompetant people off the street? This man needs to pay; I pray that the judicial system comes through for our FAMILY!!!
urallwet

Silver City, NM

#13 Mar 17, 2011
Didn't know how to roll out of it??? I love this. So all us bike riders are supposed to be Evel Knievel stunt riders? Roll out of it... LOL... I can't believe I read this. Let's see you "roll out" of even a staged motorcycle crash. Please wear a helmet while you're demonstrating your crash survival technique because I'd like to film it and I don't care to see your brains spill when you fail to "roll out of it". Jeeze... Your only point I agree with is the helmet point. I absolutely agree that all riders should wear helmets. I'd be dead if I didn't always wear one.
Pollyanna Henry

United States

#14 Mar 17, 2011
On the sidewalk wrote:
Clearly this was a tragic accident, but seeing as weíre spreading cause we really ought not forget the motorcyclist. Having been hit, he couldnít or didnít know how to roll out of it, suggesting inexperience on his part as a bike rider - strike one. He was traveling faster than his ability to avoid the unpredictable actions of other drivers in a congested traffic area - strike two. And he wasnít wearing a helmet - strike three. I understand that criticizing this young man after having lost his life is not PC, but ignoring the harshness of reality is how people loose their lives. There are drivers like this 80 old man, we do share the road with them, they do put us all at risk, and ultimately itís up to us to protect ourselves by driving safely, with awareness and defensiveness. This particular reality is multiplied 100 fold when weíre riding a bike.
All I can do is feel sorry for you. Obviously you have nothing better to do than talk about people who can't defend themselves. You should really get a life and and take a class on "PC" as you put it. This was my brother and you should think of things like that before you voice your ignorant opinion. It is really hard to "roll" off a bike when you get hit from the side. And just so you know the area wasn't congested and the old man claimed,"there was no traffic", so I guess there goes your expert analysis of the situation.

A person like you probably always blames those who are deceased. I guess the people who got killed at the World Trade Center should have ran a little faster, huh? After being in the Navy for nine years I thought I have seen it all, but you just proved me wrong. What are you doing tomorrow? Are you going to go protest at a fallen soldiers funeral? God Bless you, I hope that no one ever says things like that about people you lose
Oh Oh

Albuquerque, NM

#15 Mar 17, 2011
That previous accident.....enough information that it sounds like LAWSUIT because of negligence on the police officer's part.
Whoohoo

Silver City, NM

#16 Mar 17, 2011
Pollyanna Henry, I am so sorry for your family's great loss. I pray something good comes from the tragedy.
On the sidewalk

Rio Rancho, NM

#17 Mar 17, 2011
Iím disappointed but not surprised by the remarks to my earlier post. Iíll say it again, this was a tragic accident. As a bike rider however, avoiding tragic accidents is ultimately your responsibility. If youíre killed riding your bike it doesnít matter whoís at fault, youíre outcome will not change. Those of you who want to rant and rave over my callousness in speaking of this simple reality arenít saving anyone. When it comes down to you against the pavement, right/wrong, good/bad/, lawful/unlawful, blame/blameless, doesnít matter one bit. The pavement simply doesnít care. This accident could have involved a demented 80 year old, a cell phone distracted 16 year old, or fried out 37 year old tweak, we share the road with all of them. Bike riders bare an extra level of responsibility because, theyíre bike riders. This may sound cold and callous to some of you, but thatís the way it is. If you ride a bike, you better understand it that way.

As for ďurallwet Ē if you ride a street bike, do yourself a favor and to learn how to survive when you go down. Your Evil Knievel remark does nothing more than disclose your inexperience. Iím glad you agree with me about wearing a helmet. Iím sorry you donít agree with me about the importance of protecting yourself by driving safely, with awareness, and defensiveness. Given our limited communication here itís difficult to not be judgmental, but really, it sound to me like you should scrap your bike and buy a car. I know, you enjoy the wind in your hair and the vibration of that machine between your legs. Itís not worth losing your life over.

Pollyanna. I am heartbroken by the news of your brotherís passing. No matter what the circumstances he was way too young to suffer such a fate. I too have lost someone very close to me in a similar situation, thanks to a drunk driver in that case. I know our feelings at such times are just all over the place. We try to make sense of it, we look for some cause, we even find a way to question our own role over it. These efforts to cope with the inconceivable are surely part of our basic human nature, but in the end the answer will be this, it was a tragic accident. It will serve no purpose at this point to offer you advice other than to grieve, but truly I offer you and your family my condolences. There may well be no further communication between us so at least know this. News of this tragedy has affected me more deeply than you could possibly know, and I do grieve with you.
SayWhat

United States

#18 Mar 18, 2011
Get that maniac off the ROADS!! What's wrong with you Silver City you have jobs and don't enforce anything just let any old body wander the roads anytime they want to. 85yrs old C'mon! Take away his keys or throw him in jail! Bobby shouldn't have died it's all your fault for not doing your jobs! Bet if it was your relative then you'd do something about it. Who's going to be his next victim! Better not be me
SayWhat

United States

#19 Mar 18, 2011
Really wrote:
Why do people always blame the police??? How about his doctor? He can and should have reported this man to MVD. How about his family?? They know him better than the police do. There are a lot of people who have accidents, and should not be on the road, does that mean that the police should petition MVD every time they believe someone is incompetent to drive? I think that would require a full-time position!
People are so quick to blame others for their problems. well, guess what, how about some personal responsibility here! Obviously this elderly gentleman should not be driving (and there are many more out there). But MVD gave him a license, his family did nothing (including not reporting him to MVD), his doctor did nothing. There is a lot of blame to go around!
Because according the SCPD the old man already sent one woman to the hospital in the same exact area can't you read?! The police ARE at fault. To serve and protect remember says so on their units. Who did they serve and who did they protect in this case? They served the old man and didn't protect Bobby Serna! Simple as that! Good police would get with the family and the Dr.s and take people like this off the roads.
SayWhat

United States

#20 Mar 18, 2011
Pollyanna Henry wrote:
This was our brother - his life was taken because no one controlled this man. Is this what has to happen to get incompetant people off the street? This man needs to pay; I pray that the judicial system comes through for our FAMILY!!!
Jesus bless you and your dear family during this difficult and sad trial. Isaiah 66:13 "As a mother comforts her child, so will I comfort you."

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