Police aim to have elderly man's lice...

Police aim to have elderly man's license revoked after fatal crash

There are 56 comments on the Silver City Sun-News story from Mar 21, 2011, titled Police aim to have elderly man's license revoked after fatal crash. In it, Silver City Sun-News reports that:

The Silver City Police Department plans on petitioning the state to have a Silver City man's driver's license revoked in light of his involvement in a fatal accident two weeks ago, Silver City Police Chief Ed Reynolds said Monday.

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WWJD

Los Alamos, NM

#43 Mar 23, 2011
Josh_D wrote:
Are there really people ignorant enough to think this old man should continue driving? It isn't rocket science. He is CLEARLY incompetent and dangerous. I guarantee you'd see it differently if this was your son,friend,sibling...etc.
WWJD?- He'd take this man's license away. Duh
Well, if the man in question was a believer, He would forgive him and heal him. DUH!!
Who said he should still be driving? The man's family are the ones ultimately responsible for this tragedy. How could they not have known he was deteriorating mentally - especially after the first accident? Parents are held responsible for their children until the children can be responsible for themselves. If a parent is no longer able to take care of themselves, the adult children should step up. Why is it some government agency's duty to fill what should be a person's own moral obligation?

Deputy276

“Not vengeance, punishment.”

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#45 Mar 23, 2011
okie dokie wrote:
Ok then, all drivers found at fault in a fatal accident should now have all driving priveleges revoked for life. There will be a lot of Teen and 20's something drunk, stoned bozos off the street then. Oh yeah, and the illegals too, they shouldn't have a license in the first place, THEY ARE IN THE US ILLEGALY.
Works for me!!! I sure don't want to share the road with killers. It's a good thing if incompetent teen drivers and drunk and stoned bozos are off the road. And you're right, not only should illegals NOT have a license, they should NOT be in this country.

Deputy276

“Not vengeance, punishment.”

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#46 Mar 23, 2011
whomovedmybowels wrote:
Another moronic response. I din't see any posting that said let the drunks keep driving.
How are you punishing the senior by keeping him/her from killing someone?
This should not be limited to seniors. The right to drive needs to be much stricter/tougher and we ought to be retested at least every 5 years. I know half of the drivers out there (more in NM) should not be driving 2000+ lbs of speeding metal down the road without a care in the world or thinking about how responsible you need to be when you are behind the wheel.
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Whoops...driving is NOT a "right". It's a privlege. It can be revoked by the STATE at ANY time. Police can only ASK or recommend that licenses be revoked. It's the state's call whether they are or not. B;aming Chief Reynolds is ridiculous. He has no say in the matter, other than to recommend revocation to the DMV. The idiot judges, DMV, and DA are the ones who keep handing back this old guy's license. Blame them.

Deputy276

“Not vengeance, punishment.”

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#47 Mar 23, 2011
FU Elkstine wrote:
To Some Controversial
How about having anyone 30 and under tested every 6 months because they have their head up their ass while their driving. They cost us billions of dollars in insurance rates because they drive stupid. 65 and older, give me a break. Whats next a firing squad because your over 70? How about the bus driver who just killed 15 in New York????
Riiiiight. Do you haver ANY idea how that will tie up the DMV as far as issuing and renewing licenses? You will see waiting lists YEARS long if you do that. Want to sit at home waiting for an appointment at the DMV when your license expires?

I got a better idea...cause a fatality based on negligent driving...face IMMEDIATE termination. The old "an eye for an eye" system. Watch how careful drivers become when they realize that if they kill someone, THEY face immediate death with no appeal and no trial and jury. I know...it will never happen. Too many ACLU complaints.

Deputy276

“Not vengeance, punishment.”

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#48 Mar 23, 2011
Some controversial wrote:
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yearly driving test and eye exams for anyone over 65 should be a law
It is in many states.

Since: Dec 10

Rio Rancho, NM

#49 Mar 23, 2011
Yup, I used "right" inappropriately. It is a privilege

I can't see where I made an issue of the state, police, Chief Reynolds, DA, etc.

I believe I'm clearly saying I want much stricter/more difficult testing to get and keep a license.
Deputy276 wrote:
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Whoops...driving is NOT a "right". It's a privlege. It can be revoked by the STATE at ANY time. Police can only ASK or recommend that licenses be revoked. It's the state's call whether they are or not. B;aming Chief Reynolds is ridiculous. He has no say in the matter, other than to recommend revocation to the DMV. The idiot judges, DMV, and DA are the ones who keep handing back this old guy's license. Blame them.
American Citizen

United States

#50 Mar 23, 2011
Deputy276 wrote:
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Whoops...driving is NOT a "right". It's a privlege. It can be revoked by the STATE at ANY time. Police can only ASK or recommend that licenses be revoked. It's the state's call whether they are or not. B;aming Chief Reynolds is ridiculous. He has no say in the matter, other than to recommend revocation to the DMV. The idiot judges, DMV, and DA are the ones who keep handing back this old guy's license. Blame them.
BRAVO, Deputy 276 -- You are right on the money with this one!!! MVD -- Yet another "Quality" state agency -- I've heard they have issued D/L's to deceased persons, dogs and a chimpanzee -- so illegals are not soooooo very far up on the "Ridiculous list". What about the four (India) Indians who were running a $6k-per-license ring for unlawful aliens from-who-knows-where!
tish

Silver City, NM

#51 Mar 23, 2011
what do you mean his license is valid until.......... until what, he kills another innocent person? Then his license will be taken away? Why wait for another person to be killed by this man who obviously had dementia or elzheimers. We need to protect our people and protect this genteleman too from injuring someone else. That license should be taken away now or the vehicle should be taken away so that he has nothing to drive.
Sandman

United States

#52 Mar 24, 2011
FU Elkstine wrote:
To Some Controversial
How about having anyone 30 and under tested every 6 months because they have their head up their **** while their driving. They cost us billions of dollars in insurance rates because they drive stupid. 65 and older, give me a break. Whats next a firing squad because your over 70? How about the bus driver who just killed 15 in New York????
Congratualtions---you have just won the dumbest comment of the year award!
IAM

Silver City, NM

#53 Mar 24, 2011
Linda wrote:
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There are many older people who drive safely. They, like the rest of us, cannot and should not be lumped together in a statement, because of age, race or any other reason.
Unfortunately, this accident happened and someone was killed. That is a very, very sad thing to have happened & my condolences go out to the victim's family.
Perhaps, there should be a mandate on a anyone wanting to drive to prove their physical ability to do so safely, everytime they get a new driver's license.
Of course there should be age based restrictions.
I agree that there are older people who are capable and competent to opperate a vehicle. however it is a fact that age has an effect on reaction time. those many cpable Sr. drivers should have no problem taking a simple reaction test when getting a new license if it will save even one life.
I just wish there was a test we could administer to drivers under 21 to keep the incompetent drivers among them off the road.
real chief reynolds

Huntsville, AL

#54 Mar 24, 2011
Let me uderstand this. Mr.German is 85 years old unable to recognize his surroundings, and could not remember his phone#, but yet everyone will have have to wait for his "Due Process". C'mon New Mexico cannot be that backwards. It's obvious that Mr.German is suffering from some form of mental deteriation. There has to be some type of temporary suspension of his license pending an investigation i.e.,talking to his physician about his mental state,or with family members,neighbors so on and so forth. This is one of those circumstances where SCPD, should step in and temp/suspend his DL until it can be proven otherwise. It doesn't take much too figure out that a 85 year old man w/ an altered mental status and a past history of accidents is in no shape or form too be behind a wheel......
just saying

Albuquerque, NM

#55 Mar 24, 2011
are you kidding me? you can't live in NM and not know we are a third world state. backwards, corrupt and PROUD of it.
Really

Silver City, NM

#56 Mar 24, 2011
real chief reynolds wrote:
Let me uderstand this. Mr.German is 85 years old unable to recognize his surroundings, and could not remember his phone#, but yet everyone will have have to wait for his "Due Process". C'mon New Mexico cannot be that backwards. It's obvious that Mr.German is suffering from some form of mental deteriation. There has to be some type of temporary suspension of his license pending an investigation i.e.,talking to his physician about his mental state,or with family members,neighbors so on and so forth. This is one of those circumstances where SCPD, should step in and temp/suspend his DL until it can be proven otherwise. It doesn't take much too figure out that a 85 year old man w/ an altered mental status and a past history of accidents is in no shape or form too be behind a wheel......
SCPD has NONE, ZILCH, NADA, say over who gets a license and who doesn't. Just as the police can arrest you for committing a crime, they can't judge you guilty and sentence you. The police can write you a citation, or arrest you for reckless driving, but you still get your day in court, and ONLY MVD can take your license away.

Just like if your license is revoked for DWI, a judge can't give you permission to drive. That is called SEPARATION OF POWERS. And that is what U.S. laws are based on. Do you want the police having power over everything?? How do you think that would look. The best thing to do,(and I hate saying it, since we already have too many laws that aren't enforced) would be to make it mandatory for anyone over, say 65 or 70, to do a yearly driving test. That law should also include language that should someone like Mr. German still be driving and their doctor has not given notification to MVD regarding their health/mental status, that doctor should be fined!

There are many people responsible for Mr. German still being on the road, his family, and his doctor are at the top of the list, but of course, as is the New Mexico way, the first thing you want to do is "sue the Police Department" One of the laws we definitely need in this state is a frivolous lawsuit law. These stupid lawsuits cost tax payers millions of dollars and tie up the courts, that should be handling serious cases.
My condolences to the family, and hopefully MVD will take this mans license away. That still does not guarantee he will not drive, though!
Grandma

United States

#57 Mar 24, 2011
TWO CENTS wrote:
<quoted text>Some pharmacies have free delivery, some grocery stores have delivery theres also elderly care available.
There are many programs out there to help seniors-like the senior center that provides rides and meals. There are also people who work through the home health systems that will come and clean and take the senior to their appts or shopping. Taking the drivers license from a senior is a difficult thing to do because it is like taking his or her freedom. But when a man of his age has already had one accident, his license needed to be revoked then. Sometimes decisions need to made for them but when a senior citizen realizes it is time to not drive anymore they must make that hard decision. If his license had of been revoked then this tragedy could have been prevented. I know the family who lost their son and my condolences go out to them in their time of need.
hippie kicker

Albuquerque, NM

#58 Mar 24, 2011
everybody complaining about how this man killed someone. saying he deserves to drive and call the police "IDIOTS". I would love to see thier reaction when one of these artist hippies family member gets killed or mugged and see how they need these "idiots"!
Non Citizen

Farmington, NM

#59 Mar 24, 2011
When he loses his motor vehicle license he will also lose his US Citizenship. Princess Sue's new rule. Department of Motor Vehicles now decides who is a US Citizen. Sorry Charlie now you can't vote either. I guess all these World War Two Veterans will just except losing their Citizenship with out whimper!

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