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Reflecting on progress, Obama honors civil rights

There are 48 comments on the KFVS12 story from Apr 10, 2014, titled Reflecting on progress, Obama honors civil rights. In it, KFVS12 reports that:

Barack Obama was 2 years old when Lyndon Baines Johnson sat in the East Room of the White House with Martin Luther King Jr. and signed the Civil Rights Act, putting an end to an America where schools, restaurants and water fountains were divided by race.

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“bar0ckalypse n0w”

Since: Mar 10

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#23 Apr 10, 2014
conservative crapola wrote:
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When have the cons ever been out of the cave?
Liberals want people to ride bicycles and eat grass, and think unemployment benefits create jobs.

... very progressive.
spoko

Oakland, CA

#24 Apr 10, 2014
Far Away wrote:
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Educate yourself, idiot. Try looking up Everett Dirksen and then come back and tell me no republicans spoke in favor of the Civil Rights Act. It was Dirksen's speech that ended the Democrats' filibuster and allowed the vote to take place.
As for the rest of your rant, please point out any mistake I made in the facts contained in my comment. Otherwise, sit down, shut up and let the grown-ups converse.
You can have an opinion on facts, but you cannot have your opinion be the facts. The congressional record speaks for itself.
Huh? In 1948 Strom Thurmond, then Governor of South Carolina, and a group of Southern delegates walked out of the Democratic Convention when the civil-rights platform passed. Yes, Dirksen helped pushing the bill thru Congress after all there are some decent republicans. But the republican leadership at the time supported "states rights" not civil rights! Now, if you are so smart (moron) show us a single republican speech advancing Federal Civil Rights. I can give you plenty of speeches by democrats starting with FDR to Truman to Humphrey to Kennedy to name just a few ...

“bar0ckalypse n0w”

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#25 Apr 10, 2014
Debt bill more than $106,000 per worker; 77% surge in food stamp use...
777xyz

Greenfield, IN

#26 Apr 10, 2014
mjjcpa wrote:
Liberals won't be happy until we're all back in caves living in squalor.
At least it will be fair.
;) U think so?;-00
777xyz

Greenfield, IN

#27 Apr 10, 2014
mjjcpa wrote:
Debt bill more than $106,000 per worker; 77% surge in food stamp use...
Chuck Shoemer did gave Hillary a shoe?!! ;-00
Really

Las Vegas, NV

#32 Apr 11, 2014
Isn't that when America started going to crap? ohbama was 2 yrs old then and hasn't grown up much since then. He never did play well with White boys.
Look at America now, blacks are still whinning or has that been going on for over 200 yrs? Don't know and don't care!
Sterkfontein Swartkrans

Warrington, PA

#34 Apr 11, 2014
I vividly remember the controversy surrounding the passage of the Civil Rights Act. At the time southern 'Democrats' railed against the bill and some Republicans argued in favor of the bill. Back then even the Republican party had a sane liberal faction. Congressmen socialized together without animosity. That doesn't happen today. Back then the south was usually referred to as the "solid south" because most of the senators and representatives from southern states were Democrats who voted as a bloc. Later on they switched parties because of the 'southern strategy.' For the record Obama has not been good when it comes to civil liberties. In fact in some cases he has been worse than bush and his minions! The divisiveness in this country will surely lead to its destruction!
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#37 Apr 11, 2014
spoko wrote:
Civil Rights History Fantasy by Conservatives.
The civil rights movement, once a controversial left-wing fringe, has grown deeply embedded into the fabric of our national story. This is a salutary development, but a problematic one for conservatives, who are the direct political descendants of (and, in the case of some of the older members of the movement, the exact same people) the strident opponents of the civil rights movement. It has thus become necessary for conservatives to craft an alternative story, one that absolves their own ideology of any guilt. The right has dutifully set itself to its task, circulating its convoluted version of history, honing it to the point where any defensive College Republican in his dorm room can repeat it.
There was only one republican that fought for the passing of the 1964 civil rights bill. His name was Bill McCulloch, Republican Congressman from Ohio, and at the height of John F. Kennedy’s effort to pass the first comprehensive federal civil rights law since Reconstruction, it was McCulloch — a now forgotten figure — who rose above mere partisanship to give Lyndon B. Johnson the power to pass the single most important law of the 20th century. LBJ announced:“We have talked long enough in this country about equal rights. We have talked for 100 years or more. It is time now to write the next chapter, and to write it in the books of law.”
The mainstream, and correct, history of the politics of civil rights is as follows. Southern white supremacy operated out of the Democratic Party (Dixiecrats) beginning in the nineteenth century, but the party began attracting northern liberals, including African-Americans, into an ideologically cumbersome coalition. Over time the liberals prevailed, forcing the Democratic Party to support civil rights, and driving conservative southern whites out, where they realigned with the Republican Party.
Republicans were no champions of civil rights; we cannot find a single speech by the republican leadership promoting civil rights. Of course, republican love to remind us that MLKJ was a registered republican and yes he was! But what else could he be, or any black man in the south, fighting the racist Dixiecrats? It is a matter of record; civil rights laws passed in 1957 and especially in 1964, were championed by NATIONAL Democrats and it caused splits in the Democratic Party as Dixiecrats in the South switched allegiance to the Republicans.
Thank you, spoko, for setting the record straight with your factual rendering of civil rights history. Today's tea partiers are the legacy of yesteryear's Dixiecrats. These days, they no longer hide under masked robes, but behind masks of denial, rationalism and euphemisms to the extent that they attempt to sanitize their outdated prejudices.
bottlecap

Orlando, FL

#38 Apr 11, 2014
Real History-----It was President Eisenhower who initiated the First Civil Rights Bill since Reconstruction, in 1957

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act...

"The Civil Rights Act of 1957, Pub.L. 85–315, 71 Stat. 634, enacted September 9, 1957, primarily a voting rights bill, was the first civil rights legislation passed by Congress in the United States since the 1866 and 1875 Acts."

"The bill passed the House with a vote of 285 to 126 (Republicans 167-19 for, Democrats 118-107 for)[4] and the Senate 72 to 18 (Republicans 43-0 for, Democrats 29-18 for).[5] President Eisenhower signed it on September 9, 1957."
bottlecap

Orlando, FL

#39 Apr 11, 2014
Sterkfontein Swartkrans wrote:
For the record Obama has not been good when it comes to civil liberties. In fact in some cases he has been worse than bush and his minions! The divisiveness in this country will surely lead to its destruction!
Yes----Obama is GUILTY of violating the civil rights of MILLIIONS and MILLIONS of Americans by 1) Using the IRS to attack Christians and Conservatives, 2) Using the NSA to violate the Privacy Rights of Americans thru unlawful snooping and 3) by threatening to end freedom of speech for the middle and lower classes by turning control of the Internet to foreign dictataors and International Banksters.

“bar0ckalypse n0w”

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#40 Apr 11, 2014
kuda wrote:
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Thank you, spoko, for setting the record straight with your factual rendering of civil rights history. Today's tea partiers are the legacy of yesteryear's Dixiecrats. These days, they no longer hide under masked robes, but behind masks of denial, rationalism and euphemisms to the extent that they attempt to sanitize their outdated prejudices.
Lies.

There are blacks in the TEA party.

Liberals are far more racist than conservatives.
conservative crapola

“Hicksville Hootenanny”

Since: Sep 13

Kornfield Kounty

#41 Apr 11, 2014
mjjcpa wrote:
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Lies.
There are blacks in the TEA party.
Liberals are far more racist than conservatives.
Name any 12.
Sterkfontein Swartkrans

Warrington, PA

#43 Apr 11, 2014
bottlecap wrote:
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Yes----Obama is GUILTY of violating the civil rights of MILLIIONS and MILLIONS of Americans by 1) Using the IRS to attack Christians and Conservatives, 2) Using the NSA to violate the Privacy Rights of Americans thru unlawful snooping and 3) by threatening to end freedom of speech for the middle and lower classes by turning control of the Internet to foreign dictataors and International Banksters.
The irs is only guilty of screening 'religious' and 'conservative' organizations that were using their tax exempt status to engage on politics illegally. There are also plenty of liberal organizations that do the same thing they are not as whiny as so called 'christians.' If you want to engage in politics pay your taxes and quit whining like a bunch of petulant schoolchildren!
Far Away

Anchorage, AK

#44 Apr 11, 2014
kuda wrote:
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Thank you, spoko, for setting the record straight with your factual rendering of civil rights history. Today's tea partiers are the legacy of yesteryear's Dixiecrats. These days, they no longer hide under masked robes, but behind masks of denial, rationalism and euphemisms to the extent that they attempt to sanitize their outdated prejudices.
If by 'denial, rationalism and euphemisms' you mean enslaving generations of people through handouts and cradle-to-grave, then yes, those are the same 'dixiecrats' you commented about earlier who are today progressives/liberals. I can think of nothing more racist than making multiple generations of black folks dependent on government and telling them it is hopeless to even try to break out of the cycle and that they will forever be victims of pre-civil rights legislation institutionalized discrimination. That's what democrats/liberals/progressive s/race-baiters do.

“TRIBALISM I refuse to play!”

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#45 Apr 11, 2014
foster wrote:
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only the White Racist Southern Democrats who supported Jefferson Davis in the Civil War, who later became Repuclican to this day
Prove that switch. Show me where the party of Lincoln, that tried for a decade after the war for civil/equal rights finally quit because the Democrat controlled south was not going to change! Prove to me where Republicans changed there mind on racial equality. You are full of sh*t and you know it! Facts not emotions please!
Far Away

Anchorage, AK

#46 Apr 11, 2014
Those like foster--and foster--are great at revisionism to bolster their creds, which are otherwise found lacking.
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#47 Apr 11, 2014
mjjcpa wrote:
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Lies.
There are blacks in the TEA party.
Liberals are far more racist than conservatives.
I knew I could count on you to feel compelled to object vociferously with the characteristic level of sophistication and style we've all grown to expect. Although crude, of course, the abrasive denial strategy of your reflexive smack-down reveals absolutely no compunction about calling liars those having the temerity to post factual information that you find inconvenient or with which you may otherwise disagree.

I'll not dignify your assertion, "Liberals are far more racist than conservatives," with a rebuttal because non is necessary since you make it without any supportive documentation and I'll leave it to others to evaluate its veracity.

When you assert "There are blacks in the TEA party," you implicitly imply the premise that an a tea party actually exists. Yes, there are tea partiers holding the formerly GOP hostage, just as they previously held the Democrat Party hostage as Dixiecrats. For some reason, whatever they call themselves, they choose to invade, occupy and hijack organized political parties rather than forming their own. Perhaps the Klan was the closest they ever came, but it was not purely a political party per se.

Be that as it may, I have no doubt that there are some African Americans who are themselves tea partiers. Perhaps it's due to identification with the aggressor. Consider the Stockholm Syndrome, for example, or gay bashing homophobes.

By the way, I consider myself a progressive, not a liberal, as I've previously told you for the reasons I previously told you.

I harbor no illusion that you'll develop interest in actually discussing this issue, beyond vehemently objecting without meaningful argument to posts with which you disagree, but I address a broader audience that has an open mind.
kuda

Cincinnati, OH

#48 Apr 12, 2014
Far Away wrote:
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If by 'denial, rationalism and euphemisms' you mean enslaving generations of people through handouts and cradle-to-grave, then yes, those are the same 'dixiecrats' you commented about earlier who are today progressives/liberals. I can think of nothing more racist than making multiple generations of black folks dependent on government and telling them it is hopeless to even try to break out of the cycle and that they will forever be victims of pre-civil rights legislation institutionalized discrimination. That's what democrats/liberals/progressive s/race-baiters do.
As one might anticipate by your choice of monikers, that's so far away from what I said and, of course, meant that you've somehow managed to rationalize it to mean the exact opposite to you. But then, that's the point — strategically misinterpreting factual information to create an alternate reality that's self-serving through conformity with preconceived belief. What it lacks in sophistication, it compensates for in simplicity. Since it perfectly illustrates the mental gymnastics I described, I'm grateful for your jumping in to help at just the right moment. Well played!
Responsibility

Petaluma, CA

#49 Apr 12, 2014
conservative crapola wrote:
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When have the cons ever been out of the cave?
The cons need an autopsy/retreat to find the entrance!
CapricornCrack

Tampa, FL

#50 Apr 12, 2014
conservative crapola wrote:
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Name any 12.
The Congressional Black Caucus

Any other stupid questions?

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