Price hike to hurt Gettysburg businesses?

There are 35 comments on the Evening Sun story from Apr 10, 2011, titled Price hike to hurt Gettysburg businesses?. In it, Evening Sun reports that:

Stephanie Lightner, assistant manager of the American Civil War Museum Complex in Gettysburg, right, helps customer Susan Carson, of Pittsburgh, with a purchase last week.

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Whatever

Hanover, PA

#1 Apr 10, 2011
I'd rather take the $42 to the casino and watch a good show.
WildBillHicock

Summit, NJ

#2 Apr 11, 2011
Will the folks who sit on the Foundation Board take a pay cut? I don't think so.
its appalling

Gettysburg, PA

#3 Apr 11, 2011
a few years ago the original museum was free of charge, AND BETTER. now u pay an arm and a leg for a new museum created by a company out of CALIFORNIA...

I'd rather spend my money elsewhere. You could visit every small museum in the town of gettysburg and see just as many artifacts for less then the cost of visiting that atrocity.

-a disappointed local
pagunslinger

Holtwood, PA

#4 Apr 11, 2011
being a born and raised in g-burg guy...i will never recommend the "new" visitor center to any tourist. went there right after they opened. very disappointed and surely not worth the money. we're currently visiting fort monroe, va. to tour the fort is free and the navy museum here is free as well.
a former student

Gettysburg, PA

#5 Apr 11, 2011
The new visitor's center is definitely worthwhile but at some point they will discourage visits. It's already too expensive. The private foundation that runs the center was supposed to be a substitute for the old free visitors center but now it looks like it's becoming a preserve restricted to well heeled visitors. The head of this organization is paid $350,000 to run this center and who knows how much is paid out in high salaries to other executives. It's a bad deal for too many families.
Bet

Gettysburg, PA

#6 Apr 11, 2011
Now I know why I don't visit Gettysburg as a tourist. I only live 20 minutes away (for 20 years) and have merely walked or driven through town. Seen Devil's Den a few times (no charge). But, other than that, it's off my list of places to go and see.$42 would by my groceries for the week. And to think these attractions they're talking about once had no admission at all. What changed that, anyway?
Wilhelm

Middletown, PA

#7 Apr 11, 2011
Bet,
GREED is what changed the institution from no admission charge to the museum to the proposed $12.50 to see fewer artifacts than ever. Expect another price increase in the next year or two also: the original goal was $15.00 per adult admission. The sky is the limit after that.
Go to the meeting but don't expect anything. When the room was packed with opponents of the original fee proposal at that meeting, the then-NPS Supt. announced to the crowd at the outset that nothing they might say would be recorded or taken into account because it was not a formal hearing. No letters would be taken into account either because the fee proposal was not an issue that would be decided by a vote. Expect the same.
The NPS "plays hardball" with visitors, the people who support them with taxes.
Pittsburgher

Gettysburg, PA

#8 Apr 11, 2011
It may be that the NPS has no control over pricing. Perhaps the contract between them and the Foundation gives all such control over to the Foundation as the owners and operators of the new VC. Anybody ever seen the contract? Anybody know how to file a Freedom of Information request?
Bvillecanner

Augusta, ME

#9 Apr 11, 2011
Visitation before fees were introduced in 2007 - 1.7 million.

Visitation now - less than 1 million.

Visitation to Adams County overall - no decrease.

Simple math. Tourists are coming to Gettysburg and avoiding the NPS facility. The higher they raise the fees, the lower the visitation count will be.
Stuart

Middletown, PA

#10 Apr 11, 2011
Some local businesses will also feel it when the Gettysburg Foundation/NPS pick up the Tillie Pierce House for a pittance at the foreclosure auction next week. It will give the Foundation/NPS a great foothold downtown, owned by the Foundation, which can promote the site as THE ONLY place to learn about the civilian experience while charging an extra fee and opening a new Event Network museum shop there; it's a great opportunity to consolidate more resources in their hands and make more money, and the refurbishment expenses will have been absorbed mostly by the previous owners.
Hope the Schriver House Museum and its owners have a plan B in store for when the Foundation/NPS
uses its money, influence, and political power to muscle in on the story of Gettysburg civilians.
The Shriver House will be "yesterday's news." Sad.
Duh

Three Springs, PA

#11 Apr 11, 2011
What a Bargain ! Pay an entry fee for a $9.7 million White Elephant that in the end totaled more then $39 million of Federal Tax monies. AND it still has not passed The PA. Life Safety Code Inspection nor Occupancy Certification. This $2 increase will hopefully close the place. Gasoline is nearing $4.00 per gallon and once that price increase effects the food industry,lodging costs and all aspects of transportation costs rise--what will tourist do ? They'll stay home. Paying the 37% increase in food and gasoline costs is more important than visiting a lame museum. They'd save plenty of money if they turned off the lights each night too. Light pollution.
Duh

Three Springs, PA

#12 Apr 11, 2011
Stuart wrote:
Some local businesses will also feel it when the Gettysburg Foundation/NPS pick up the Tillie Pierce House for a pittance at the foreclosure auction next week. It will give the Foundation/NPS a great foothold downtown, owned by the Foundation, which can promote the site as THE ONLY place to learn about the civilian experience while charging an extra fee and opening a new Event Network museum shop there; it's a great opportunity to consolidate more resources in their hands and make more money, and the refurbishment expenses will have been absorbed mostly by the previous owners.
Hope the Schriver House Museum and its owners have a plan B in store for when the Foundation/NPS
uses its money, influence, and political power to muscle in on the story of Gettysburg civilians.
The Shriver House will be "yesterday's news." Sad.
Finally, someone like you has struck the nail on the head. Let's all recite-- Boonsboro , Harpers Ferry, Leesburg and other NPS associated towns. Yellowstone National Park was the first. So here we go.. let these Foundations take over the towns--not simply kill the tax base. Not one facility or park under NPS affiliation has nor will ever pay property taxes. Just park the Tour buses full of Ghost Hunters anyplace you desire. After 2013 it's all over any way you look at it.
Duh

Three Springs, PA

#13 Apr 11, 2011
Bvillecanner wrote:
Visitation before fees were introduced in 2007 - 1.7 million.
Visitation now - less than 1 million.
Visitation to Adams County overall - no decrease.
Simple math. Tourists are coming to Gettysburg and avoiding the NPS facility. The higher they raise the fees, the lower the visitation count will be.
You better recheck your tourist info..The Marsh Creek bridge on the Emmitsburg Road is closed. According to PennDot..it MIGHT take 9 months to replace it. Better dig in and wait for the relief column--PennDot funding was slashed . The detoured roads can not and will not support Tour Buses. Most bridges are under an 8 ton limit and are not wide enough to make turns. Perhaps this is why the NPS has not placed the counters along the major roads.
Duh

Three Springs, PA

#14 Apr 11, 2011
Bet wrote:
Now I know why I don't visit Gettysburg as a tourist. I only live 20 minutes away (for 20 years) and have merely walked or driven through town. Seen Devil's Den a few times (no charge). But, other than that, it's off my list of places to go and see.$42 would by my groceries for the week. And to think these attractions they're talking about once had no admission at all. What changed that, anyway?
John Latschar former Gettysburg Park Supt and creator of the Foundation.
Neato

Shippensburg, PA

#15 Apr 11, 2011
Thank goodness those of us who make our living catering to visitors to Gettysburg do not have to rely on the small-minded "locals" to do so.

People travel from all over the world to visit this special place, and they are BLOWN AWAY by the Visitor's Center, the Cyclorama Painting, the Museum, and the Battlefield itself. Most of the "locals" have never set foot outside of Adams County and so have no reference with which to compare our world class museum. The old center was a TOILET and a place to get a map, period. The "museum" portion smelled so badly of mildew and rot that no one wanted to set foot in it to see the few badly displayed items that were there. It was a joke.

Get over yourselves, our visitors do not bat an eye at spending $12.50 to see our beautiful new center, and stop acting like it's some personal affront that people would be charged to gain access to a brand new, state of the art,$130 facility. Anyone with a grain of sense knows it's a bargain.

Since: Sep 09

Miamisburg, OH

#16 Apr 11, 2011
Bvillecanner wrote:
Visitation before fees were introduced in 2007 - 1.7 million.
Visitation now - less than 1 million.
Visitation to Adams County overall - no decrease.
Simple math. Tourists are coming to Gettysburg and avoiding the NPS facility. The higher they raise the fees, the lower the visitation count will be.
Nah, we stop at the bookstore. And the restrooms are nice.
Hanoverian

Gaithersburg, MD

#18 Apr 11, 2011
Neato wrote:
People travel from all over the world to visit this special place, and they are BLOWN AWAY by the Visitor's Center, the Cyclorama Painting, the Museum, and the Battlefield itself.
Maybe it is their first time here and they have no idea what they are missing.
Does anyone tell them about the thousands of artifacts that used to be displayed for free that are now sitting in a climate-controlled closet and are not allowed to be seen, even though they paid their admission fee?
Does anyone tell them that the Visitor Center has a monopoly on the largest private collection of Civil War artifacts in the country, but that the Gettysburg Foundation gets to choose what they want to display?
Does anyone tell them that the Visitor Center is not affiliated with the NPS?
If they knew the answers to these questions maybe they wouldn't be so impressed.
Neato wrote:
Most of the "locals" have never set foot outside of Adams County and so have no reference with which to compare our world class museum.
World class compared to what? I am a local and HAVE set foot in many museums. To me "World Class" means places like Smithsonian, Guggenheim, Louvre, and others. Is the Gettysburg Visitor Center a member of ICOM?
Neato wrote:
Get over yourselves, our visitors do not bat an eye at spending $12.50 to see our beautiful new center, and stop acting like it's some personal affront that people would be charged to gain access to a brand new, state of the art,$130 facility. Anyone with a grain of sense knows it's a bargain.
The problem isn't with visitors paying to gain access in and of itself (most "World Class" museums DO charge an access fee). The problem is that when the VC was proposed there were 2 promises made:
1) It would be built without taxpayer monies
2) It would have free access.

Both of these were flat-out lies by the Gettysburg Foundation. Again, if the visitors who are "blown away" by the museum knew that they probably wouldn't be as impressed.
whomever

Philadelphia, PA

#19 Apr 11, 2011
Neato wrote:
People travel from all over the world to visit this special place, and they are BLOWN AWAY by the Visitor's Center, the Cyclorama Painting, the Museum, and the Battlefield itself. The old center was a TOILET and a place to get a map, period.
Spoken like a well-trained puppet.
Analyst Says

Gettysburg, PA

#20 Apr 11, 2011
And the next article that Tim will write will be ....?
Something like ...
"MANY Gettysburg area businesses say Price hike won't hurt."
Counter point

Hanover, PA

#21 Apr 11, 2011
Can you spell boondoggle?

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