New Store On Baltimore Street

New Store On Baltimore Street

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ADS

Gettysburg, PA

#1 Jan 25, 2012
Just noticed it today when going by. Didn't get a good look but it appeared to be some sort of candy store. Anyone else see if? Right next to Saint Amand? Is that what it is?

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#2 Jan 25, 2012
ADS wrote:
Just noticed it today when going by. Didn't get a good look but it appeared to be some sort of candy store. Anyone else see if? Right next to Saint Amand? Is that what it is?
WHAT?? A NEW candy store...OMG! Hope they have jelly beans..also love the individual wrapped fruit slices...could eat the whole tin in one sitting...WHAT FUN AND AN ICE CREAM STORE ALSO..
Pink Eye

Emmaus, PA

#3 Jan 27, 2012
That's what Gettysburg needs, good family friendly stores.
ADS

Gettysburg, PA

#4 Jan 28, 2012
Still haven't figured out what it is or the name of the place. Will have to try and go past there again to see what I can find out. Surprised there hasn't been any mention in the paper or anything about it.
gettysburger

Gettysburg, PA

#5 Jan 28, 2012
Pink Eye wrote:
That's what Gettysburg needs, good family friendly stores.
Actually we need things that people will come to visit for. Candy store. Nice but not a difference maker. Nothing to see here folks, move along.
ADS

Gettysburg, PA

#6 Jan 28, 2012
Yeah but what would people want to "come" for? I mean, my gripe has always been that the town MOSTLY caters to out of towners and NOT enough to it's locals/residents. I mean, us people who live here could care less about 30 antique stores, 12 art/frame stores, 7 novelty/souvenir shops (and yeah, I exaggerated the numbers) etc. We need regular stores too that will be beneficial and appealing to us as well. Would love to have a REAL Italian type bakery that actually makes custom birthday cakes, pies, cookies, rolls, breads, etc.....a Dunkin Donuts, BJ's or Sam's Club, More pizza shops that actually deliver and make food closer to what you find on the East Coast like Philly or NY. The only two good pizza shops (Deliso and La Bella Italia) in town don't even deliver! Grrrr It's really annoying!!!! A Wawa would be nice too. I HATE Sheetz. Little local corner stores and stuff like that would be nice as well. It's about time the businesses cater to it's own residents as well. After all, once the tourist season is over WE'RE ALL that's left!
Deja vu

Gettysburg, PA

#7 Jan 29, 2012
gettysburger wrote:
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Actually we need things that people will come to visit for. Candy store. Nice but not a difference maker. Nothing to see here folks, move along.
I have to agree with you in that we do need more to attract people to the town, since we really have no industry in the area. Many years agao we had Fantasy Land, and more recently Boyds Bears that drew people to the area. Not sure how big an area Fantasy Land pulled from, but I do know people came from all over the country to visit Boyds, and many discovered the other things we have to offer, such as the Gettysburg National Military Park.
Some of those people returned later to visit the park, and I am sure some people visiting both Fantasy Land, and Boyds ate at some of the local restaurants and shopped at some of the local stores, and visited some of the local attractions.

I don’t think many folks are going to travel very far just to visit a candy store, but I do wish this new business every success.
As I drive through town, I have seen a few other indications that some new businesses are coming to town, and I wish them all every success and a very long, happy and successful career in the area.
Deja vu

Gettysburg, PA

#8 Jan 29, 2012
ADS wrote:
Yeah but what would people want to "come" for? I mean, my gripe has always been that the town MOSTLY caters to out of towners and NOT enough to it's locals/residents. I mean, us people who live here could care less about 30 antique stores, 12 art/frame stores, 7 novelty/souvenir shops (and yeah, I exaggerated the numbers) etc. We need regular stores too that will be beneficial and appealing to us as well. Would love to have a REAL Italian type bakery that actually makes custom birthday cakes, pies, cookies, rolls, breads, etc.....a Dunkin Donuts, BJ's or Sam's Club, More pizza shops that actually deliver and make food closer to what you find on the East Coast like Philly or NY. The only two good pizza shops (Deliso and La Bella Italia) in town don't even deliver! Grrrr It's really annoying!!!! A Wawa would be nice too. I HATE Sheetz. Little local corner stores and stuff like that would be nice as well. It's about time the businesses cater to it's own residents as well. After all, once the tourist season is over WE'RE ALL that's left!
And I must also agree with you. I can remember growing up when the area was based on the local people and the tourist were a side business. We had I believe three furniture factories, two shoe factories and a sewing factory all employing local people.
I can remember at least seven “mom and pop” stores where you could get your groceries, buy a soda, candy bar, or ice cream. And there were three “drug stores” where you could get pharmaceuticals all with soda fountains, and two other soda fountains where you could get your ice cream real milk shakes and fountain sodas, and sandwiches from breakfast, to dinner. Back then there were four shoe stores at least three men’s clothing stores and probably more ladies clothing stores, three shoe stores, and three furniture stores. And all within two blocks of the square. There were also two “5 & dime” stores in town, as well as three hardware stores.
But sometime in the 60s I think it was, the town started to move from local business and industry to catering to the tourism trade more and more, and the local people were forgotten about.
Also, much like many communities, once the “big box” stores started to move into the area, these smaller businesses were driven out of business.
Once again, Gettysburg is faced with trying to make a compromise. We need to meet the needs of the local people, but since our only industry is tourism, we need things to draw the tourist, and keep them here for a while so they see all of the attractions we have to offer. I for one am a firm believer that once we can get the people here to visit once and they see all the community has to offer, they will both return themselves, and tell their friends.
AC Native

Chambersburg, PA

#9 Jan 29, 2012
A little history on Fantasyland. This was one of my favorite places to go as a child and provided summer employment to many of the teenagers in the area.

Adams County Pa. Related Historical Articles

Remembering Gettysburg's Fantasyland

Mike Caverly

Fantasyland opened in 1959, and was owned and operated by Kenneth and Thelma Dick on 23 wooded acres (later expanded to 35) on the east side of the Taneytown Road south of General Meade's Headquarters and the present National Park Service Visitors Center. Noted for its beauty, tranquility and cleanliness, the storybook land provided over 100 things for the young and young at heart to see and do. Attractions included an Enchanted Forest and Santa's Village; Fort Apache, which was attacked by live Indians; Rapunsel's Castle, and a dairy barn where you could slide into a haymow. All who entered the park were greeted by a talking twenty-three foot Mother Goose.

Live shows were featured daily. Besides the Cowboy and Indian Show, there was a Vaudeville Show, a Live Animal Show and a Puppet Show. Motor boats and pedal boats were rides offered on the three lakes in the park. The Cannonball Express Train, the Carousel, the Fire Engine, the Sky Ride and the Scenic Pink Tour Train were a few of the other rides available. Delicious food could be bought at eateries such as the Sugar Plum Snack Bar or the Gingerbread House.

The thousands of people who visited this nature lover's paradise every week enjoyed the sculptured landscaping, with thousands of tulips and wild flowers in the spring, colorful flowers in summer and brilliant leaves in fall. Picnic areas were available free and you could have a picture taken with live characters such as Little Red Riding Hood, Santa Claus, and the Fairy Princess.

Over its years of operation, Fantasyland attracted well over one million visitors including Broadway celebrities, members of congress and foreign dignitaries. Some of President Eisenhower's grandchildren worked at the park. President Kennedy's children were frequent visitors.

The Fantasyland property was purchased by the U.S. Government in 1974 under terms that allowed the Dicks to continue to operate the park for an additional ten years. Fantasyland finally closed in October 1980. At the time of this printing, people still ask about the park, saying they have such fond memories of visiting when they were children and wishing to bring their children and grandchildren to the magical wonderland of "Make Believe".

Epilog: Fantasyland is a shadow of its former self. After its purchase by the National Park Service (NPS) and Fantasyland closed in 1980, an entrepreneur bought the attractions and moved them to his own children's amusement park in Indiana. All that remains of the Fantasyland of old is the parking lot, used by the NPS for over-flow parking in the summer time, and the large billboard-like main entrance structure. Briefly considered as the site for a new NPS Visitor Center, current plans for the center call for its construction on land adjacent to the east side of the Fantasyland parcel and the restoration of the Fantasyland site to a more natural setting.

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#10 Jan 29, 2012
Deja vu wrote:
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And I must also agree with you. I can remember growing up when the area was based on the local people and the tourist were a side business. We had I believe three furniture factories, two shoe factories and a sewing factory all employing local people.
I can remember at least seven “mom and pop” stores where you could get your groceries, buy a soda, candy bar, or ice cream. And there were three “drug stores” where you could get pharmaceuticals all with soda fountains, and two other soda fountains where you could get your ice cream real milk shakes and fountain sodas, and sandwiches from breakfast, to dinner. Back then there were four shoe stores at least three men’s clothing stores and probably more ladies clothing stores, three shoe stores, and three furniture stores. And all within two blocks of the square. There were also two “5 & dime” stores in town, as well as three hardware stores.
But sometime in the 60s I think it was, the town started to move from local business and industry to catering to the tourism trade more and more, and the local people were forgotten about.
Also, much like many communities, once the “big box” stores started to move into the area, these smaller businesses were driven out of business.
Once again, Gettysburg is faced with trying to make a compromise. We need to meet the needs of the local people, but since our only industry is tourism, we need things to draw the tourist, and keep them here for a while so they see all of the attractions we have to offer. I for one am a firm believer that once we can get the people here to visit once and they see all the community has to offer, they will both return themselves, and tell their friends.
Your first para and your last para identify the problem local businesses have.
Years ago there was local industry with local money. Now there is little local industry and the businesses must rely to a great deal on tourism.
Puts small local business between a rock and a hard place.
Pink Eye

Emmaus, PA

#11 Jan 29, 2012
ADS wrote:
Yeah but what would people want to "come" for? I mean, my gripe has always been that the town MOSTLY caters to out of towners and NOT enough to it's locals/residents. I mean, us people who live here could care less about 30 antique stores, 12 art/frame stores, 7 novelty/souvenir shops (and yeah, I exaggerated the numbers) etc. We need regular stores too that will be beneficial and appealing to us as well. Would love to have a REAL Italian type bakery that actually makes custom birthday cakes, pies, cookies, rolls, breads, etc.....a Dunkin Donuts, BJ's or Sam's Club, More pizza shops that actually deliver and make food closer to what you find on the East Coast like Philly or NY. The only two good pizza shops (Deliso and La Bella Italia) in town don't even deliver! Grrrr It's really annoying!!!! A Wawa would be nice too. I HATE Sheetz. Little local corner stores and stuff like that would be nice as well. It's about time the businesses cater to it's own residents as well. After all, once the tourist season is over WE'RE ALL that's left!
And here we go again another Gettysburg WHINER. You complain when there aren't any businesses, and now you complain that there are busineses but they aren't to your liking, and they cater to the tourists. You live in a in a TOURIST TOWN. Didn't you rewad the fine print before you moved there? If you don't like, pack your little bags, let the lease run out on your trailer, and MOVE. What a bunch of whiners.
Deja vu

Gettysburg, PA

#12 Jan 29, 2012
Paladinhgwt wrote:
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Your first para and your last para identify the problem local businesses have.
Years ago there was local industry with local money. Now there is little local industry and the businesses must rely to a great deal on tourism.
Puts small local business between a rock and a hard place.
And unfortunately many of the business attempts are poorly planned or uninformed. People visit Gettysburg in the summer and see all the people, and see opening a business here as a gold mine. They don’t notice that all of these people are from out of the area. They don’t realize that these tourist aren’t here from November to May.
I see a lot of new businesses opening in town in September and October, and they have to start their experience here during the lean months, and by the time their first summer arrives, they are well behind, unless they have something that attracts the local people.
I would also like to see some business open downtown that will attract both year round residents, as well at the tourist, but what kind of business would that be?
The candy store may do well as both tourist and locals like candy. Eating and drinking establishments can do pretty good also, but we already have a pretty good variety of them here, and most residents don’t eat out three meals a day.
Although I would like to see the old days with the furniture, clothing, shoe, and variety stores downtown, most tourist don’t buy clothing and furniture while on vacation.
I do wish I had the answer, I would be sitting back and raking in the millions.
gettysburger

Gettysburg, PA

#13 Jan 29, 2012
Pink Eye wrote:
<quoted text>And here we go again another Gettysburg WHINER. You complain when there aren't any businesses, and now you complain that there are busineses but they aren't to your liking, and they cater to the tourists. You live in a in a TOURIST TOWN. Didn't you rewad the fine print before you moved there? If you don't like, pack your little bags, let the lease run out on your trailer, and MOVE. What a bunch of whiners.
A guess a whiner, as you put it, would just pack up and leave the area they were brought up in. Many of the folks I know around here prefer to change their surroundings and many of them did not "move here", we were born here and do not just visit for a week or so every year or so. I am happy the candy store is here. Good luck to them. When that is considered newsworthy though that should tell you something.
Pink Eye

Emmaus, PA

#14 Jan 29, 2012
gettysburger wrote:
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A guess a whiner, as you put it, would just pack up and leave the area they were brought up in. Many of the folks I know around here prefer to change their surroundings and many of them did not "move here", we were born here and do not just visit for a week or so every year or so. I am happy the candy store is here. Good luck to them. When that is considered newsworthy though that should tell you something.
yes it does tell me something. It tells me that Gettysburg is in a sad state of affairs if a candy store is newsworthy. My point is or was that it seems all those living in Gettysburg either born there or a recent arrival bytch there are no jobs, no stores except those catering to the tourists and they do so on a regular basis. Which was why I stated if you don't like it, move, plain and simple.
I spoke to a friend today concerning G'burg and how re-enactors are treated while in town. He, being an re-enactor, said he's never been met with hostility except for an isolated incident. But, on that occasion it was from a group on teenagers driving around in town. He didn't know if they were locals or otherwise. However, he said for the most part everyone has been friendly. He did mention those locals who dress in period costume and stroll the streets implying they are with a re-enacting group. My personal feeling on that, is if they want to do that it adds to the atmosphere of the place.
From your remark concerning being born here and not visiting for a week or so makes me think that the locals do have some sort of chip on their shoulders concerning "outsiders".
The locals might want to rethink their views of outsiders and tourists, or starve.
ADS

Gettysburg, PA

#15 Jan 30, 2012
First of all, when did I complain there were no businesses? I simply asked if anyone knew what this new business was. Second, ANY business is good. BUT, I DO think those that bring business to the area really should ALSO consider it's residents as well. Why not start a business that not only the tourist could benefit from but also the residents? What's wrong with that? IMO there are plenty of businesses to cater to the tourists.

Here's the problem IMO, when it comes to tourist and keeping them interested..........there's nothing to do once 5pm comes around!! I've always said that I can't understand how a tourist town can become a virtual ghost town once 5pm comes around. All vacation/touristy places I have ever been to, and I've been to many, have stores/restaurants/etc. that stay open late!! Not here!

I've often been in town to hear people standing outside of a storefront saying things like "Why are they closed?" and, "It's early, why aren't they open?" or, "What should we do now?" Maybe the store owners are a part of the problem? I would like to think that, if I had a store in a tourist town, I would stay open until at least 10 or 11pm. ESPECIALLY during tourist season. First Fridays are ok but don't come around often enough and even then most places only stay open until like 8pm. Ooooohhh, wow! Pfft! Ever notice how the section of town down by the Avenue Restaurant is more crowded than the area of the square? Those stores seem to stay open later than the ones at the square.

Anyway, I was not complaining and there was no need for you to jump on me and get nasty. I was simply throwing ideas out there and giving my OPINION (we are allowed that right, correct?). Sounds like in your opinion, you feel that if you don't like something you should just up and move rather than stay and try and contribute ideas that may help the town's growth in the long run. Well, that's good for you but I like it here and want to stay. But I also want to see the town grow and thrive and accommodate NOT ONLY the tourist but ALSO it's residents. Just because tourism is a HUGE part of the town's economic being doesn't mean that it's residents should be tossed to the side and forgotten about. No way! WE MATTER TOO! JMO
Pink Eye wrote:
<quoted text>And here we go again another Gettysburg WHINER. You complain when there aren't any businesses, and now you complain that there are busineses but they aren't to your liking, and they cater to the tourists. You live in a in a TOURIST TOWN. Didn't you rewad the fine print before you moved there? If you don't like, pack your little bags, let the lease run out on your trailer, and MOVE. What a bunch of whiners.
Pink Eye

Emmaus, PA

#16 Jan 30, 2012
ADS wrote:
First of all, when did I complain there were no businesses? I simply asked if anyone knew what this new business was. Second, ANY business is good. BUT, I DO think those that bring business to the area really should ALSO consider it's residents as well. Why not start a business that not only the tourist could benefit from but also the residents? What's wrong with that? IMO there are plenty of businesses to cater to the tourists.
Here's the problem IMO, when it comes to tourist and keeping them interested..........there's nothing to do once 5pm comes around!! I've always said that I can't understand how a tourist town can become a virtual ghost town once 5pm comes around. All vacation/touristy places I have ever been to, and I've been to many, have stores/restaurants/etc. that stay open late!! Not here!
I've often been in town to hear people standing outside of a storefront saying things like "Why are they closed?" and, "It's early, why aren't they open?" or, "What should we do now?" Maybe the store owners are a part of the problem? I would like to think that, if I had a store in a tourist town, I would stay open until at least 10 or 11pm. ESPECIALLY during tourist season. First Fridays are ok but don't come around often enough and even then most places only stay open until like 8pm. Ooooohhh, wow! Pfft! Ever notice how the section of town down by the Avenue Restaurant is more crowded than the area of the square? Those stores seem to stay open later than the ones at the square.
Anyway, I was not complaining and there was no need for you to jump on me and get nasty. I was simply throwing ideas out there and giving my OPINION (we are allowed that right, correct?). Sounds like in your opinion, you feel that if you don't like something you should just up and move rather than stay and try and contribute ideas that may help the town's growth in the long run. Well, that's good for you but I like it here and want to stay. But I also want to see the town grow and thrive and accommodate NOT ONLY the tourist but ALSO it's residents. Just because tourism is a HUGE part of the town's economic being doesn't mean that it's residents should be tossed to the side and forgotten about. No way! WE MATTER TOO! JMO
<quoted text>
Sorry I didn't mean to, "jump on you". I agree that there needs to be more to do after five p.m. And, yes the residents do matter. But, you have to take into consideration that the tourists are bringing in the money, the same money that you, as a resident, will earn to inturn pay your rent/taxes etc.

As far as giving your opinion, yes you are entitled to your opinion, the same as anyone else. HOwever, it seems some of the locals don't see it like that. They think that only they matter.
But you have to realize that you do have to cater to the tourists, they are your bread and butter. If closing downtown after five is what the town thinks is good business sense then you need to become involved in local government and try to make a change.

You have a voice, your neighbors have a voice, make it heard!! If they ( supervisors) don't want to see things differently, then vote those people out. Vote in people who share your views on how a business ( the town) should be run.

Since: Apr 11

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#17 Jan 30, 2012
Pink Eye wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry I didn't mean to, "jump on you". I agree that there needs to be more to do after five p.m. And, yes the residents do matter. But, you have to take into consideration that the tourists are bringing in the money, the same money that you, as a resident, will earn to inturn pay your rent/taxes etc.
As far as giving your opinion, yes you are entitled to your opinion, the same as anyone else. HOwever, it seems some of the locals don't see it like that. They think that only they matter.
But you have to realize that you do have to cater to the tourists, they are your bread and butter. If closing downtown after five is what the town thinks is good business sense then you need to become involved in local government and try to make a change.
You have a voice, your neighbors have a voice, make it heard!! If they ( supervisors) don't want to see things differently, then vote those people out. Vote in people who share your views on how a business ( the town) should be run.
As you can see from the Icons on your Post these people are not interested in reality.
Your wasting your time with these clueless people.
Business for tourism isn't welcome here, look at the Thread related to zoning change, open and read the article.
Pink Eye

Emmaus, PA

#18 Jan 30, 2012
Paladinhgwt wrote:
<quoted text> As you can see from the Icons on your Post these people are not interested in reality.
Your wasting your time with these clueless people.
Business for tourism isn't welcome here, look at the Thread related to zoning change, open and read the article.
Well, I have to admit I did fuel the fire many times with useless dribble. But, I'm being sincere in my previous post about becoming involved. Its the only way the locals will make a difference in their community. Posting on Topix, Borovent, Adamswatercooler, or any other site won't change a thing. What ever happened to the poster Nile? Instead of wasting his time here with his, although I have to admit intelligent dribble, he could spend his time invested in Gettysburg and become involved. They all need to get involved if they want their precious community to survive.
AC Native

Chambersburg, PA

#19 Jan 30, 2012
Paladinhgwt, I disagree with your response to Pink Eye in post #17. A reader of the article that is not familiar with the area in question may feel that the business idea itself is under attack and that is not true at all. The problem with Mr. Shultz's proposal is location, location, location as well as the fact that it does not comply with the zoning for the area. The residents have real concerns as well and are expressing their opinions as they have a right to do. Besides the fact that the business does not comply with current zoning for the area parking and safety issues are the big concern, not the idea of a dinner theater.
gettysburger

Gettysburg, PA

#20 Jan 30, 2012
Pink Eye wrote:
<quoted text>yes it does tell me something. It tells me that Gettysburg is in a sad state of affairs if a candy store is newsworthy. My point is or was that it seems all those living in Gettysburg either born there or a recent arrival bytch there are no jobs, no stores except those catering to the tourists and they do so on a regular basis. Which was why I stated if you don't like it, move, plain and simple.
I spoke to a friend today concerning G'burg and how re-enactors are treated while in town. He, being an re-enactor, said he's never been met with hostility except for an isolated incident. But, on that occasion it was from a group on teenagers driving around in town. He didn't know if they were locals or otherwise. However, he said for the most part everyone has been friendly. He did mention those locals who dress in period costume and stroll the streets implying they are with a re-enacting group. My personal feeling on that, is if they want to do that it adds to the atmosphere of the place.
From your remark concerning being born here and not visiting for a week or so makes me think that the locals do have some sort of chip on their shoulders concerning "outsiders".
The locals might want to rethink their views of outsiders and tourists, or starve.
I think we only have a "chip on our shoulder" to bad visitors. There are good and bad tourists just like there are good and bad houseguests.
Again, why move when you you can try to change your surroundings? This is our home.

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