Civil War's 150th anniversary celebration to start Thursday in Greencastle

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As organizers prepare to launch "The Invasion of Pennsylvania" on Thursday, they are hoping for good weather and lots of people.
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Really can we let it go. Are we really remembering and honoring Civil War Soldiers by having this or do we just want to make a buck.

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whats the deal wrote:
Really can we let it go. Are we really remembering and honoring Civil War Soldiers by having this or do we just want to make a buck.
We?
You can easily ignore it and focus on your own hobbies and let those who have an interest in this sort of thing enjoy it. How other people spend their money shouldn't be your concern.
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When taxpayer monies are being spent on this I think we should be concerned about the motivation. Greencastle taxes seem only to support downtown businesses, not residents.

Since: Sep 09

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Apr 5, 2011
 
GA Resident wrote:
When taxpayer monies are being spent on this I think we should be concerned about the motivation. Greencastle taxes seem only to support downtown businesses, not residents.
That's fair enough.
Is this just a vanity project? The 150th anniversary is being discussed and "celebrated" on a far greater scale than just Franklin County. It's no stretch to say that any kind of festival doesn't exactly serve the local resident.
What about this mindset, though? There are communities throughout the country that are doing stuff like this, and will be for the next few years. They are getting "theirs". Why can't Greencastle and Franklin County, as well?
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Apr 6, 2011
 
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You can easily ignore it and focus on your own hobbies and let those who have an interest in this sort of thing enjoy it. How other people spend their money shouldn't be your concern.
Can you believe the jerks want to commemorate history with a Gettysburg Casino....?? Gross out America!

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Can you believe the jerks want to commemorate history with a Gettysburg Casino....?? Gross out America!
Can you believe the jerks who make up complete garbage about stuff that's going to happen if a casino goes in nowhere near the battlefield? The only thing gross is the idiotic misinformation from Chicken Little.
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Apr 12, 2011
 
CONFEDERATE PRIDE AND HERITAGE AND NAZI PRIDE AND HERITAGE ARE ONE AND THE SAME. German Nazis dragged the human family across the globe into a bloody “WORLD –WIDE CIVAL WAR” and were defeated. If they would have won, their flag would fly over the capitols of many cities around the world. But, they lost the war. Their values and ideals were immoral, and inconsistent with the values and morals of the rest of the world. When Nazis try to raise their flag today in celebration of their Nazi “pride and heritage”, the world recalls what they stand for and continues to denounce them, usually very aggressively. Confederates were defeated in war. We did not become the world that the Nazis envision nor the nation that the Confederates wanted us to become. We are THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! And wherever I see Confederates, celebrating with their mantra,“THE SOUTH SHALL RISE AGAIN”, I aggressively stand up to denounce them, and I implore all AMERICANS to do the same.

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Apr 12, 2011
 
Good to see we still deal with things in a gentle, subtle manner in 2011.
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Apr 12, 2011
 
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When taxpayer monies are being spent on this I think we should be concerned about the motivation. Greencastle taxes seem only to support downtown businesses, not residents.
Dang, i am sick of hearing tax payers $...Everyone pays taxes a#$ clown. If you don't like it don't pay em and I am sure there is a nice cell waiting for you where you can get private Blue Oyster dance lessons.
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Apr 12, 2011
 
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CONFEDERATE .... values and ideals were immoral, and inconsistent with the values and morals of the rest of the world...
Many of the values and ideals of the Union AND Confederates were immoral Gizmo. Sadly, such values and morals were, and still are, consistent with much of the rest of the world.

Read Objectively ... And remember as you read that I am a man of color.

The Union's design (which is still practiced) is a slavery based on government taxation and corporate greed - it knows no color and makes slaves of men, women, and even children or all colors and races.

The U.S. Civil War satisfied part of a political agenda; to make the Constitution [merely] appear to provide freedom to all men by claiming to free slaves from their legal bondage. But far from freeing ANYONE from slavery, the "win" (as you call it) for the Union was to reinforce the captivity of ALL men as slaves of capitalist leadership: increased power to the government and less power to the States and individuals.

The American Civil War was NOT fought "because of" slavery. The primary thrust of the Confederacy was to preserve the Rights of a State to make its own choices and that just wasn't emotional enough for the laid back lifestyle of Northerners or Southerners to want to fight about. Northern whites really didn't care that there were black slaves or not. Most black Northerners didn't care that much either. Slavery, though a heinous crime against humanity, was a mere political agenda for the war makers, and like EVERY war that the US has started in the world, they needed something to stir the emotion of the people - a "righteous cause," and slavery provided just that emotion.

Lincoln wasn't opposed to slavery in principal. In fact not ALL slavery was abolished like so many erroneously have been taught. Lincoln was just fine letting people have their slaves. What Lincoln and the Union didn't want was for States to have the Rights to choose for themselves. Slavery was already in the process of abolishing itself! The Confederacy was already falling apart because of their practice of slavery and Lincoln seized the opportunity, NOT to free black men as a principal cause, but to give more power to the federal government. People can blur history to try to put all the make up on him that they want, but Lincoln was a racist to the core! He cared about the black man just enough to use him for political gain.

I most definitely oppose human bondage of any sort regardless of sexual orientation, race, religion, or color. Please take the time to study the many dimensions of the American Civil War and don't pick and choose those events that stir your emotions. Be objective and you will see that both sides had noble as well as corrupt objectives. The North only sought the freedom of black slaves to increase the power of a federal government by taking away the Rights of States and giving those Rights to themselves.

Study the actual history and not the lies and half-truths that your teachers in school forced in your brain.

Those who wave the flag "The South Shall Rise Again" are as ignorant of the history of the causes of the American Civil War as you are. If those bigots would just open their eyes they would see that the South has ALREADY risen again in the form of government and corporate greed and has made slaves of all men of all colors - a most heinous crime indeed! If you were objective enough you would not, could not, take either side.

Read the diaries of those who struggled with the many reasons that led to the war and remember that the issue of abolishing slavery (which still hasn't happened) was not central to the political force that underlies why those first shots rang out 150 years ago at Fort Sumter.

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